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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Brian Burke reveals some trade plans for first time Brian Burke reveals some trade plans for first time
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
i was a season tix holder that 2003-04 year. It was brutal going to all the games. I believe that year Richard Tarnstrom led the team in points.

in no way do i want jankowski to dress but if he must, no higher than 4th line.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
So Guentzel for Bertuzzi this summer lol.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Mar 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
So Guentzel for Bertuzzi this summer lol.
- Feds91Stammer



Feds is back!!!!!
shamula62
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Charleston, WV
Joined: 09.28.2006

Mar 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
Not sure at this point what the extent of the Kapanen injury is yet, or when Tanev and Zucker might return to the line-up, but couldn't agree more with RW that Gaudreau has shown more desire and effort the last few games that Jankowski has shown all season, which likely means that Gaudreau will be taking a seat when other guys return to action and Jankowski will continue to get a jersey. As for potential trades, I think GMRH will look for a trade before the deadline, but as RW also indicated, the Pens don't have an abundance of viable trade assets to work with. Guess time will tell.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think it’s still possible with the lack of picks/prospects this year since most teams are in a salary in salary out situation. Even most of the lesser teams. Obvi picks still help get a better player for the same price but hopefully hexy can work some magic. Give him a chance.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
Big and Skill... Evander Kane might be suddenly dirt cheap with that bankruptcy situation and all the weirdness over there
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:04 PM ET
Ryan Getzlaf seems like a guy both Hexy and Burke would like. Price is probably too high though.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Mar 25 @ 12:16 PM ET
Agree on Getzlaf being Hextall and Burke's wet dream. Especially with Getzlaf and Burke having a close relationship. Just don't see anyway to make it work money wise or asset wise.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
Does Getz have a NTC or NMC?

EDIT: He has a NMC...I can never remember the difference between the two but its possible he could pull an Iggy and say he only wants to play with Sid and/or for Burkie haha....
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 25 @ 12:29 PM ET
Does Getz have a NTC or NMC?

EDIT: He has a NMC...I can never remember the difference between the two but its possible he could pull an Iggy and say he only wants to play with Sid for Burkie haha....

- MattStrat


NMC basically gives all control to the player, whereas a NTC, depending on it's design, give a player some control on where he goes.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 25 @ 12:30 PM ET
NMC basically gives all control to the player, whereas a NTC, depending on it's design, give a player some control on where he goes.
- Rinosaur


ok ok, thanks.... well NMC is better in this case...I think haha
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
ok ok, thanks.... well NMC is better in this case...I think haha
- MattStrat


Better for the player, not so much the team. If ANA and PIT agreed on a trade, he would have to waive.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
Big and Skill... Evander Kane might be suddenly dirt cheap with that bankruptcy situation and all the weirdness over there
- Guile

Anytime you can add a POS to your team you should do it.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
NMC basically gives all control to the player, whereas a NTC, depending on it's design, give a player some control on where he goes.
- Rinosaur

NMC - can’t trade or waive a player without their approval

NTC - can’t trade a player without their approval

M-NTC - can’t trade a player without their approval unless trading them to a team already on their approved list based on the NTC stipulations
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
Agree on Getzlaf being Hextall and Burke's wet dream. Especially with Getzlaf and Burke having a close relationship. Just don't see anyway to make it work money wise or asset wise.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I don’t think it takes a lot and they retain 50%. A roster player has to go back to still make it work $ wise and prob wouldn’t take much more than that. If they move him it’s for him, not for the team.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 25 @ 1:41 PM ET
Anytime you can add a POS to your team you should do it.
- Feds91Stammer


Noooo... he just needs a change of scenery... again
mgm986
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.17.2018

Mar 25 @ 1:52 PM ET
Getting a better understanding for what the front office sees as paths forward is really interesting.

Based on their comments, there are a few things that jump out.

They want physicality, but as RW said, you can't get a highly skilled version given what Pitt has to offer.

They also lack center depth and with Blueger and Malkin out, that's an even bigger need.

Pettersson looks like the only viable option for them to capitalize on but his return will be the opposite of a blockbuster.

All things considered, here's where my mind goes.

Pitt should acquire Luke Glenndening from Detroit.

He's a physical, veteran presence (has an A in detroit) who dominates the faceoff circle.

I think the cost to get him would be a 4th round pick or so, so I don't think Pettersson should be in the deal.

I think Pitt should look to swap Pettersson for draft picks (Maybe a 2nd and a 3rd, or 2 - 3rd Rounders? Hard to say his value).

They should then hold one of those picks (building for the future) and use one of them to get Glenndening.

I know it sounds like a wild goose chase, but, just a thought on how to improve with the assets available and retain thoughtfulness towards the future.



Amanion
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:55 PM ET
Kind of scary to think that future Pens teams will be built more like the Bruins and Flyers than traditional Penguins teams.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
I liked everything Burke has said. They want to add, but aren’t going to shoot from the hip and unload our final expandable assets just for the sake of making a move. The move will be calculated and it will make sense on the present/future balance scale.

No I don’t want to go out of my way to pick up John Scott because we don’t have enough #gritness, but I also don’t expect that to happen. If Burke were GM maybe, but there is no reason to believe that Hextall will do a poor job in player eval. I think we need more dogs, and if the new look strategy is to go after someone with more dog in them if it sacrifices a bit of skill, then I think that can work.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
I liked everything Burke has said. They want to add, but aren’t going to shoot from the hip and unload our final expandable assets just for the sake of making a move. The move will be calculated and it will make sense on the present/future balance scale.

No I don’t want to go out of my way to pick up John Scott because we don’t have enough #gritness, but I also don’t expect that to happen. If Burke were GM maybe, but there is no reason to believe that Hextall will do a poor job in player eval. I think we need more dogs, and if the new look strategy is to go after someone with more dog in them if it sacrifices a bit of skill, then I think that can work.

- Victoro311


Who would be your targets?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 2:35 PM ET
Who would be your targets?
- j.boyd919

No (frank)ing idea to be perfectly honest. I don’t know who we can get and not include a 1st, Poulin or Legare. My guess is that one of Poulin or Legare will actually be moved but it’ll be for someone with term, and this is just posturing to fight the assumption that the Pens can be bent over a barrel for one of the two of them because they’re desperate to make a move.

Right now I think Viktor Arvidson as has been mentioned solves a lot of our problems, but isn’t a type of guy this FO is gonna go for. Like I don’t love that they might be pigeon holing themselves into if they don’t add size and sand paper we’re not adding them, but I don’t think that assumes they’re only going to target scrubs either.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 25 @ 2:37 PM ET
Getting a better understanding for what the front office sees as paths forward is really interesting.

Based on their comments, there are a few things that jump out.

They want physicality, but as RW said, you can't get a highly skilled version given what Pitt has to offer.

They also lack center depth and with Blueger and Malkin out, that's an even bigger need.

Pettersson looks like the only viable option for them to capitalize on but his return will be the opposite of a blockbuster.

All things considered, here's where my mind goes.

Pitt should acquire Luke Glenndening from Detroit.

He's a physical, veteran presence (has an A in detroit) who dominates the faceoff circle.

I think the cost to get him would be a 4th round pick or so, so I don't think Pettersson should be in the deal.

I think Pitt should look to swap Pettersson for draft picks (Maybe a 2nd and a 3rd, or 2 - 3rd Rounders? Hard to say his value).

They should then hold one of those picks (building for the future) and use one of them to get Glenndening.

I know it sounds like a wild goose chase, but, just a thought on how to improve with the assets available and retain thoughtfulness towards the future.

- mgm986



I like glendenning. A right shot centre who is good at face offs. Pitt isn’t a good face off team and they have too many lefties.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 3:04 PM ET
Canada quarantine period has been reduced to 7 days. Better for trades.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
No (frank)ing idea to be perfectly honest. I don’t know who we can get and not include a 1st, Poulin or Legare. My guess is that one of Poulin or Legare will actually be moved but it’ll be for someone with term, and this is just posturing to fight the assumption that the Pens can be bent over a barrel for one of the two of them because they’re desperate to make a move.

Right now I think Viktor Arvidson as has been mentioned solves a lot of our problems, but isn’t a type of guy this FO is gonna go for. Like I don’t love that they might be pigeon holing themselves into if they don’t add size and sand paper we’re not adding them, but I don’t think that assumes they’re only going to target scrubs either.

- Victoro311


I know they said they only want to add, but I could see McCann going the other way in a trade.
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