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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Time for Ron Hextall and Brian Burke to get to work Time for Ron Hextall and Brian Burke to get to work
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Mar 22 @ 12:46 PM ET
Good blog. Burke and Hexy are regular readers on this website so maybe they will read your blog themselves and listen to your advice.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Mar 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
If history has taught me anything, when you hear two "exciting" out of nowhere names on the trade block, usually they get traded for one another. (Laine - Dubois is the most recent example)

So this whole Debrusk rumor started... and now the Garland rumor. I have no idea what the motivation is but it's quite possible they get traded for one another.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
If history has taught me anything, when you hear two "exciting" out of nowhere names on the trade block, usually they get traded for one another. (Laine - Dubois is the most recent example)

So this whole Debrusk rumor started... and now the Garland rumor. I have no idea what the motivation is but it's quite possible they get traded for one another.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


AZ is in such a weird position. They're basically in and have been in a rebuild of sorts. I know there was talk a little while back of moving OEL, but he wouldn't waive his NMC, but if I were them that's what I'd be doing.

They have a bevy of a decent rentals for contending teams in: Gogo, Hjarl, Demers, Brassard, etc.. I'd ship them out for whatever they can get, move OEL if they can then just try to build around Garland, Chychrun, Keller, Schmaltz and Dvorak.

Moving Garland just doesn't make much sense.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Mar 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
AZ is in such a weird position. They're basically in and have been in a rebuild of sorts. I know there was talk a little while back of moving OEL, but he wouldn't waive his NMC, but if I were them that's what I'd be doing.

They have a bevy of a decent rentals for contending teams in: Gogo, Hjarl, Demers, Brassard, etc.. I'd ship them out for whatever they can get, move OEL if they can then just try to build around Garland, Chychrun, Keller, Schmaltz and Dvorak.

Moving Garland just doesn't make much sense.

- Rinosaur


There are 2 reasons to move Garland:

1) Money. They may not want to pay him with several other awful contracts already on the books.

2) Rebuild. They have no 1st and 3rd this year, and a fairly weak prospect pool. They can sell a bunch of their UFAs and get some 3rd and 4th round picks. But moving Garland likely nets them a 1st or some higher quality prospects.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
There are 2 reasons to move Garland:

1) Money. They may not want to pay him with several other awful contracts already on the books.

2) Rebuild. They have no 1st and 3rd this year, and a fairly weak prospect pool. They can sell a bunch of their UFAs and get some 3rd and 4th round picks. But moving Garland likely nets them a 1st or some higher quality prospects.

- Kooleus


1) Maybe, but figuring out a way to move OEL helps that along and don't forget they have some hefty contracts coming off the books in Gogo and Hjarl.

2) I feel like moving Garland just nets you another possible Garland be it from a higher draft pick or a decent prospect. So IMO it's just gambling lateral move.

Now, if AZ gets the sense he won't want to stay there, then sure, you move him now.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Mar 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
Theyre gonna go as far as they can with this roster this season and then blow it up in the offseason.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Theyre gonna go as far as they can with this roster this season and then blow it up in the offseason.
- Murphy_Dump


If Geno was done for the season I’d agree, but he’s not.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
The score was 2-1, not 3-2, Gunner!
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
Theyre gonna go as far as they can with this roster this season and then blow it up in the offseason.
- Murphy_Dump

Give them a chance.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Mar 22 @ 1:53 PM ET
1) Maybe, but figuring out a way to move OEL helps that along and don't forget they have some hefty contracts coming off the books in Gogo and Hjarl.

2) I feel like moving Garland just nets you another possible Garland be it from a higher draft pick or a decent prospect. So IMO it's just gambling lateral move.

Now, if AZ gets the sense he won't want to stay there, then sure, you move him now.

- Rinosaur


They tried moving OEL and it didn't work.

I wouldn't move Garland for a 1st. That's worse than lateral. But if a desperate contender comes along, with no cap space, and hence Garland's minimal salary becomes extremely attractive, and they overpay, then you take it. I don't see Pitt being that desperate, but imagine if say Toronto says...we'll give you a 1st, we'll give you someone like Sandin/Robertson, take Kerfoot because we need some cap space next year to actually sign Garland, we'll add a conditional 2nd/3rd based on our playoff success. You might just take it and kickstart a rebuild.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
Theyre gonna go as far as they can with this roster this season and then blow it up in the offseason.
- Murphy_Dump

Maybe they will, maybe they won't this off-season. They'll be forced to the following year.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
They tried moving OEL and it didn't work.

I wouldn't move Garland for a 1st. That's worse than lateral. But if a desperate contender comes along, with no cap space, and hence Garland's minimal salary becomes extremely attractive, and they overpay, then you take it. I don't see Pitt being that desperate, but imagine if say Toronto says...we'll give you a 1st, we'll give you someone like Sandin/Robertson, take Kerfoot because we need some cap space next year to actually sign Garland, we'll add a conditional 2nd/3rd based on our playoff success. You might just take it and kickstart a rebuild.

- Kooleus


They tried OEL, and yes, it didn't work, but that doesn't mean it won't work in a different situation. Mind you, I'm not trying to say it's easy by any stretch, but this isn't the first situation where a player with a NMC took a few tries to move.

Regardless, you have over $10M coming off the books in Gogo and Hjarl and they obviously don't need to replace their services spending the same money if they're going to rebuild for a couple of years.

I don't, nor did I even think that Garland was an option for the Pens and I don't doubt they'd have any problem moving him. The Kerfoot scenario does and doesn't make sense. It saves TOR money now to maybe make another move THIS season, but what situation does it put them in next year?
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Mar 22 @ 3:30 PM ET
They tried OEL, and yes, it didn't work, but that doesn't mean it won't work in a different situation. Mind you, I'm not trying to say it's easy by any stretch, but this isn't the first situation where a player with a NMC took a few tries to move.

Regardless, you have over $10M coming off the books in Gogo and Hjarl and they obviously don't need to replace their services spending the same money if they're going to rebuild for a couple of years.

I don't, nor did I even think that Garland was an option for the Pens and I don't doubt they'd have any problem moving him. The Kerfoot scenario does and doesn't make sense. It saves TOR money now to maybe make another move THIS season, but what situation does it put them in next year?

- Rinosaur


The Leafs could add Garland now without even moving Kerfoot. But if they do then it becomes imperative that Kerfoot leaves in the off-season. Hence the idea to just include him in this deal. The Coyotes will need some bodies anyway. This summer the Leafs have Hyman and Anderson as UFAs. Assume Hyman gets a nice raise, and Anderson leaves as a UFA and is replaced by a cheaper goalie. Wayne Simmonds also walks and is replaced by a guy on ELC. So they would be able to sign Garland if Kerfoot and Anderson move on.
Sams_Dog
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.03.2005

Mar 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
Word out of Washington is Connor Sheary is available. Same with Daniel Sprong.
eabrenner
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kent, OH
Joined: 10.05.2020

Mar 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
This is Hextall's weakness...he can't make any moves to improve an actual NHL club. The only thng he's good for is accumulating draft choices and maybe half of his 1st rounders pan out and almost none of his picks after round 1. He has this reputation of building this porspect pool in Philly but where are they now? Zero great prospects...ok maybe Farabee...everyone else...mediocre...and don't get me started on how he destroyed the culture of the Flyers...soft as a baby's bottom...good luck Pens fans...let's see if Hextall lasts as long in Pitt as Philly...hopefully he also wrecks the Pens like he wrecked the Flyers...and hopefully that dud is reading this so he knows Philly hates him now.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Mar 22 @ 4:30 PM ET
This is Hextall's weakness...he can't make any moves to improve an actual NHL club. The only thng he's good for is accumulating draft choices and maybe half of his 1st rounders pan out and almost none of his picks after round 1. He has this reputation of building this porspect pool in Philly but where are they now? Zero great prospects...ok maybe Farabee...everyone else...mediocre...and don't get me started on how he destroyed the culture of the Flyers...soft as a baby's bottom...good luck Pens fans...let's see if Hextall lasts as long in Pitt as Philly...hopefully he also wrecks the Pens like he wrecked the Flyers...and hopefully that dud is reading this so he knows Philly hates him now.
- eabrenner


Which is possibly why Burke is on the team as well...
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Mar 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
I would have been fine with the Pens snagging Boyd off waivers, but Vancouver got him...
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
This is Hextall's weakness...he can't make any moves to improve an actual NHL club. The only thng he's good for is accumulating draft choices and maybe half of his 1st rounders pan out and almost none of his picks after round 1. He has this reputation of building this porspect pool in Philly but where are they now? Zero great prospects...ok maybe Farabee...everyone else...mediocre...and don't get me started on how he destroyed the culture of the Flyers...soft as a baby's bottom...good luck Pens fans...let's see if Hextall lasts as long in Pitt as Philly...hopefully he also wrecks the Pens like he wrecked the Flyers...and hopefully that dud is reading this so he knows Philly hates him now.
- eabrenner


Sanheim, Provorov, Konecny, Patrick, Frost, Farabee, Aube-Kubel, Hart, Lindblom were all pretty successful picks. That's about half of an NHL roster. Sure, the majority were first rounders and had a higher probability of making the show, but that's still good. Hart, Aube-Kubel and Lindblom were all after the first, no? That's pretty solid.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
I would have been fine with the Pens snagging Boyd off waivers, but Vancouver got him...
- Beatnic57


poop. I'm going to Vancouver? I ain't ready for that.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
This is Hextall's weakness...he can't make any moves to improve an actual NHL club. The only thng he's good for is accumulating draft choices and maybe half of his 1st rounders pan out and almost none of his picks after round 1. He has this reputation of building this porspect pool in Philly but where are they now? Zero great prospects...ok maybe Farabee...everyone else...mediocre...and don't get me started on how he destroyed the culture of the Flyers...soft as a baby's bottom...good luck Pens fans...let's see if Hextall lasts as long in Pitt as Philly...hopefully he also wrecks the Pens like he wrecked the Flyers...and hopefully that dud is reading this so he knows Philly hates him now.
- eabrenner

Delete your account. Most of the guys he drafted are playing on the flyers right now. Plus we have Burke to help us make moves.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
Sanheim, Provorov, Konecny, Patrick, Frost, Farabee, Aube-Kubel, Hart, Lindblom were all pretty successful picks. That's about half of an NHL roster. Sure, the majority were first rounders and had a higher probability of making the show, but that's still good. Hart, Aube-Kubel and Lindblom were all after the first, no? That's pretty solid.
- j.boyd919

Thanks for actually naming names lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
poop. I'm going to Vancouver? I ain't ready for that.
- j.boyd919

Lmao
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 22 @ 5:07 PM ET
Thanks for actually naming names lol
- 668710


Right? lol they're no longer prospects, they're NHL regulars, which is what you want. hahah.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Mar 22 @ 5:25 PM ET
poop. I'm going to Vancouver? I ain't ready for that.
- j.boyd919

We wouldn't put you on waivers... lol
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