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Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
I agree TG has to go but I don’t agree with this inexperienced excuse. He’s been a hockey coach for ten years now with roughly 600 games coached (in total) between amateur and pro levels.

This is his forth year at the Canuck helm. Time for him to own this mess along with the guy who hired him.

The team owner also needs to own this because he assembled an inexperienced management group seven years ago to lead this team through a historically significant rebuild that would be difficult even for the most experienced management crew.

Let’s say the Canucks were a publicly traded company that needed to be restructured and you were a major investor/stock holder. Would you be happy with a totally unproven management team to protect your investment through a difficult transition?

I know I wouldn’t.

- bloatedmosquito

Donnie is right, as long as the Aquilini family owns the franchise I highly doubt they'll ever be success given their business model, ie: the Canucks are a family toy.

They came close once as the sole owner but that was a situation where they were handed a very talented group of players and then Gillis added to them, however, when Mike Gillis tried to convince them it was time to rebuild, they refused and fired him, therein lies the first problem they caused.

Following that they hired a rookie President who hired a rookie General Manager who fired a rookie coach all the while saying they could "turn this franchise around quickly".

The root of the problems lay at the feet of the Aquilini family!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Donnie is right, as long as the Aquilini family owns the franchise I highly doubt they'll ever be success given their business model, ie: the Canucks are a family toy.

They came close once as the sole owner but that was a situation where they were handed a very talented group of players and then Gillis added to them, however, when Mike Gillis tried to convince them it was time to rebuild, they refused and fired him, therein lies the first problem they caused.

Following that they hired a rookie President who hired a rookie General Manager who fired a rookie coach all the while saying they could "turn this franchise around quickly".

The root of the problems lay at the feet of the Aquilini family!

- Pacificgem


Truth 100%
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
Donnie is right, as long as the Aquilini family owns the franchise I highly doubt they'll ever be success given their business model, ie: the Canucks are a family toy.

They came close once as the sole owner but that was a situation where they were handed a very talented group of players and then Gillis added to them, however, when Mike Gillis tried to convince them it was time to rebuild, they refused and fired him, therein lies the first problem they caused.

Following that they hired a rookie President who hired a rookie General Manager who fired a rookie coach all the while saying they could "turn this franchise around quickly".

The root of the problems lay at the feet of the Aquilini family!

- Pacificgem

Yup.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
I am looking forward to 4 p.m. today.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
Donnie is right, as long as the Aquilini family owns the franchise I highly doubt they'll ever be success given their business model, ie: the Canucks are a family toy.

They came close once as the sole owner but that was a situation where they were handed a very talented group of players and then Gillis added to them, however, when Mike Gillis tried to convince them it was time to rebuild, they refused and fired him, therein lies the first problem they caused.

Following that they hired a rookie President who hired a rookie General Manager who fired a rookie coach all the while saying they could "turn this franchise around quickly".

The root of the problems lay at the feet of the Aquilini family!

- Pacificgem


Part of this is right . They can only do what the Aquilinis allow them to do.

They hired Trevor because the fans were crying louder and louder and they had to do something quickly . They brought in the most beloved Canuck ever to sweep the noise under the carpet.

Benning was sought at by a few teams looking to get a new GM and Travis was going to become a free agent and his name was on a few teams search list also.


Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
Part of this is right . They can only do what the Aquilinis allow them to do.

They hired Trevor because the fans were crying louder and louder and they had to do something quickly . They brought in the most beloved Canuck ever to sweep the noise under the carpet.

Benning was sought at by a few teams looking to get a new GM and Travis was going to become a free agent and his name was on a few teams search list also.

- VANTEL

As soon as Gillis disagreed with the Aquilini's, fired, as soon as Linden disagreed with the Aquilini's, fired.

Jim Benning won't disagree with them because he's probably got his dream job, the problem is the two of them together are making a mess of the franchise. Benning's seven years have been the least successful of any point in their 51 year history, I assume because he's trying to do what the family is instructing him to do.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
Donnie is right, as long as the Aquilini family owns the franchise I highly doubt they'll ever be success given their business model, ie: the Canucks are a family toy.

They came close once as the sole owner but that was a situation where they were handed a very talented group of players and then Gillis added to them, however, when Mike Gillis tried to convince them it was time to rebuild, they refused and fired him, therein lies the first problem they caused.

Following that they hired a rookie President who hired a rookie General Manager who fired a rookie coach all the while saying they could "turn this franchise around quickly".

The root of the problems lay at the feet of the Aquilini family!

- Pacificgem


I printed this post and framed it 🥰
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

Lol Bloatsey
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
I printed this post and framed it 🥰
- CanuckDon


Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
poor Holtby.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:51 PM ET


Why does Benning have to come out and state the obvious.

Presser @ 12.30

Benning comes out in his Elmer Fudd voice and says "We stink , badee badee badee That's all folks"

Are we that fragile we need the GM to come out and give us words of comfort?

I haven't seen Gorton Treliving Poille or Bergevin before the coaching change come out to comfort their fan bases.

Reports are Benning is busy on the phones and hopefully he stays there.

- VANTEL


Porky Pig says That’s all Folks. Elmer Fudd says waskly wabbit
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:53 PM ET
I was joking about Julien. Do a proper coach search and interview in the off season.
- VANTEL


If you are not going to sign green to an extension then you should part ways now, instead of letting him run this thing into the ground, even if you don’t hire anyone until the off season.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
Didn’t the Aquilini owned Canucks make it one win away from winning the Cup?

I highly doubt every cup winning team has a had a fully hands off owner. We just hear more rumours about Canadian team owners because it’s Canada and hockey is like a religion here.

Benning is number one on the blame list. Sure, add ownership to the list for hiring the guy and refusing to rebuild properly but it’s a joke to say that the guy who’s actually making the moves deserves less blame.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
If you are not going to sign green to an extension then you should part ways now, instead of letting him run this thing into the ground, even if you don’t hire anyone until the off season.
- 1970vintage


Yup, put Newell Brown in there #Top3DraftPick
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
poor Holtby.
- Blackstrom2

If he was paying any attention last year or the years before, he knew what he signed up for lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
As soon as Gillis disagreed with the Aquilini's, fired, as soon as Linden disagreed with the Aquilini's, fired.

Jim Benning won't disagree with them because he's probably got his dream job, the problem is the two of them together are making a mess of the franchise. Benning's seven years have been the least successful of any point in their 51 year history, I assume because he's trying to do what the family is instructing him to do.

- Pacificgem


Again I think there is part truth to your comments.

I don't think Gillis was fired because he disagreed with Francesco, I think he was fired due to public demand. I remember seeing him in his final days where everyone was commenting about his scroatie. He looked white as a ghost , like a guy fighting for his job. He also did his final interview on the TSN1040 and one of his final comments was "Donnie I honestly don't know if I still have a job"

If Aquillini tells Benning there is no money to spend then end of story . You can carry your pride and walk away from a million dollar job or you can stay. I think most people would stay.

None of us know what goes on behind their closed doors. In the smart words of Makita "Until Benning is not GM he is, until Travis is not coach he is"

I do think a couple of trades in the couple of next days/weeks will happen and after that wait and see.

I also know that if Benning is fired , that in another six years the fans will be pining for his return


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
I wonder, if the Canucks retain some salary, if the Canucks could get a 3rd round pick for Nate Schmidt.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
Oh lord, we’re fucked.
- bloatedmosquito


Hopefully it’s one of these:

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Porky Pig says That’s all Folks. Elmer Fudd says waskly wabbit
- 1970vintage


Who did Porky Pigs voice ?
Who did Elmer Fudds voice?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Didn’t the Aquilini owned Canucks make it one win away from winning the Cup?

I highly doubt every cup winning team has a had a fully hands off owner. We just hear more rumours about Canadian team owners because it’s Canada and hockey is like a religion here.

Benning is number one on the blame list. Sure, add ownership to the list for hiring the guy and refusing to rebuild properly but it’s a joke to say that the guy who’s actually making the moves deserves less blame.

- Nucker101


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Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
Again I think there is part truth to your comments.

I don't think Gillis was fired because he disagreed with Francesco, I think he was fired due to public demand. I remember seeing him in his final days where everyone was commenting about his scroatie. He looked white as a ghost , like a guy fighting for his job. He also did his final interview on the TSN1040 and one of his final comments was "Donnie I honestly don't know if I still have a job"

If Aquillini tells Benning there is no money to spend then end of story . You can carry your pride and walk away from a million dollar job or you can stay. I think most people would stay.

None of us know what goes on behind their closed doors. In the smart words of Makita "Until Benning is not GM he is, until Travis is not coach he is"

I do think a couple of trades in the couple of next days/weeks will happen and after that wait and see.

I also know that if Benning is fired , that in another six years the fans will be pining for his return



- VANTEL

Mike Gillis was 100% fired because of tension between him and the ownership group, differing opinions, he spoke about it when his contract expired with Vancouver. Even Francesco Aquilini isn't stupid enough to fire someone because the fans called for it. That's just dumb. His naivety, Aquilini, had him thinking they could stay on top and compete for years on end, IMO he wanted to relive 2011 for eternity.

As for Jim Benning, don't kid yourself, Benning is a rich man in terms of the average citizen and he still gets paid regardless if he's fired or not as he has a contract. If he had Jim Rutherford sized balls he'd tell the owner to get bent and stop interfering with hockey operations.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
Didn’t the Aquilini owned Canucks make it one win away from winning the Cup?

I highly doubt every cup winning team has a had a fully hands off owner. We just hear more rumours about Canadian team owners because it’s Canada and hockey is like a religion here.

Benning is number one on the blame list. Sure, add ownership to the list for hiring the guy and refusing to rebuild properly but it’s a joke to say that the guy who’s actually making the moves deserves less blame.

- Nucker101

I think there's equal blame between Jim Benning and Francesco Aquilini, they're both very much at fault. But Benning has to ultimately listen to the direction of the owners.

Just my personal opinion but having a non-traditional management hierarchy which allows them to act as the President of Hockey Operations is part of the problem and it goes back, for me, to when they started to need a rebuild with Mike Gillis at the helm and they refused.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Didn’t the Aquilini owned Canucks make it one win away from winning the Cup?

I highly doubt every cup winning team has a had a fully hands off owner. We just hear more rumours about Canadian team owners because it’s Canada and hockey is like a religion here.

Benning is number one on the blame list. Sure, add ownership to the list for hiring the guy and refusing to rebuild properly but it’s a joke to say that the guy who’s actually making the moves deserves less blame.

- Nucker101

Sometimes the obvious needs to be posted here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Mike Gillis was 100% fired because of tension between him and the ownership group, differing opinions, he spoke about it when his contract expired with Vancouver. Even Francesco Aquilini isn't stupid enough to fire someone because the fans called for it. That's just dumb. His naivety, Aquilini, had him thinking they could stay on top and compete for years on end, IMO he wanted to relive 2011 for eternity.

As for Jim Benning, don't kid yourself, Benning is a rich man in terms of the average citizen and he still gets paid regardless if he's fired or not as he has a contract. If he had Jim Rutherford sized balls he'd tell the owner to get bent and stop interfering with hockey operations.

- Pacificgem


The arenas we getting less fans . The merchandise was falling off . The fans that did come were screaming Fire Gillis.

Gillis definitely was trying to save his job , I seen him and I heard him .

I hope Benning doesn't get fired because I think he has set this team up nicely for the next two years despite the screaming fan base.
Cupcakes
New York Rangers
Joined: 01.16.2021

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
I wonder, if the Canucks retain some salary, if the Canucks could get a 3rd round pick for Nate Schmidt.
- Reubenkincade



Lol.
Wasn't he the guy that you guys thought was a big upgrade over Tanev?
The guy can't keep the puck in at the line, holds onto the puck for to long and can't skate and think at the same time.
Enjoy him for another 4 years.
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