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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: More nuggets on Burke, Hextall, and injuries More nuggets on Burke, Hextall, and injuries
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Feb 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
BURKIE WILL RALLY THE TROOPS, and Hexie will trade the renegades and the malcontents.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:10 PM ET
Three more days until game day? Did the game get moved that was supposed to be tmmrw?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
Dead in the new blog haha
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
Three more days until game day? Did the game get moved that was supposed to be tmmrw?
- 668710

Hope not I was just about to ask the same. I didn’t see that?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
Hope not I was just about to ask the same. I didn’t see that?
- Cptmjl

I still see it set as tmmrw thankfully. So many days off lol.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:33 PM ET
This is the worst part of hockey in today’s NHL. Used to be guys who were long term players, coaches, etc. got moved into a made up position within the organization. Now, people are castoff without regard nor remorse.

It pains me that Hexy got unceremoniously booted from Philly. He will always be a Flyer in my world. An old school player who gave his heart and soul to the team.

So now we are left to watch one of your own working for your rival. Sucks! And I mean no disrespect to the Pens, it’s just that the NHL has lost the hate between teams, as we are all a kinder, gentler society, where everyone’s feelings matter. It doesn’t work for me, especially in sports.

How does one get juiced for a big game, against a hated rival, when players and staff move between teams, and players are so buddy, buddy, with each other. I’d prefer the old “I hate them” attitude like it used to be. Then we can hate each other on game days, like it used to be. It was fun!

Today’s sports, with all the money involved just isn’t the same.

I can reminisce.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:38 PM ET
This is the worst part of hockey in today’s NHL. Used to be guys who were long term players, coaches, etc. got moved into a made up position within the organization. Now, people are castoff without regard nor remorse.

It pains me that Hexy got unceremoniously booted from Philly. He will always be a Flyer in my world. An old school player who gave his heart and soul to the team.

So now we are left to watch one of your own working for your rival. Sucks! And I mean no disrespect to the Pens, it’s just that the NHL has lost the hate between teams, as we are all a kinder, gentler society, where everyone’s feelings matter. It doesn’t work for me, especially in sports.

How does one get juiced for a big game, against a hated rival, when players and staff move between teams, and players are so buddy, buddy, with each other. I’d prefer the old “I hate them” attitude like it used to be. Then we can hate each other on game days, like it used to be. It was fun!

Today’s sports, with all the money involved just isn’t the same.

I can reminisce.

- Hokeeguy9

Yea no disrespect, but HATED when Jagr was playing for you guys. See the problem with the world isn't about love and hate it's about respect. Respect dropped off a cliff so now society pushes this love everyone crap. Spare me. It's ok to argue and have hate! Not everyone is gonna love everyone. Just have respect for people. That's all.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 10 @ 6:54 PM ET
Yup need more players like hextall when he was on the ice. The marchands and Wilson’s. It still feels weird that hextall is a penguin but I dig it haha.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:58 PM ET
Yup need more players like hextall when he was on the ice. The marchands and Wilson’s. It still feels weird that hextall is a penguin but I dig it haha.
- 10inchTerror

Yea hoping he's good at refilling the cupboards here.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 10 @ 7:00 PM ET
I know you can’t come out and pooptalk your team but not liking these quotes from burkie;

“I think good GMs let their coach coach… At the end of the day, I’ve always let the coach make decisions. I think Sully’s a first-rate coach. I think he’s got good assistants. I don’t think there’s an issue there at all.”
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 10 @ 7:00 PM ET
Good read. Couldn't agree more about getting Morehouse out of the on ice product. Yohe said Morehouse used to cross the line with Shero. I'm sure he did the same with Rutherford.

A couple things I noticed.... Jason Karmanos was interviewed for this job. That pretty much blows up the theory about Rutherford being salty with firing him. That decision was clearly JR's alone.

DK has a nice piece up today on the entire situation. Basically says (again), Rutherford quit because the Pens weren't willing to extend his contract and the guy mostly making the call on that was Mario. Rutherford didn't believe he had to sing for his supper.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
I know you can’t come out and pooptalk your team but not liking these quotes from burkie;

“I think good GMs let their coach coach… At the end of the day, I’ve always let the coach make decisions. I think Sully’s a first-rate coach. I think he’s got good assistants. I don’t think there’s an issue there at all.”

- 10inchTerror

Damn lol

Edit: Hopefully he's just saying that? Does he actually believe it?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
I know you can’t come out and pooptalk your team but not liking these quotes from burkie;

“I think good GMs let their coach coach… At the end of the day, I’ve always let the coach make decisions. I think Sully’s a first-rate coach. I think he’s got good assistants. I don’t think there’s an issue there at all.”

- 10inchTerror


Just heard Burke on the radio... Paraphrasing.... "I let coaches coach. If they don't do the job they get fired."
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:05 PM ET
Just heard Burke on the radio... Paraphrasing.... "I let coaches coach. If they don't do the job they get fired."
- madmike71

This is more like it lol
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 10 @ 7:09 PM ET
Damn lol

Edit: Hopefully he's just saying that? Does he actually believe it?

- 668710


Hopefully. That was a copy and paste from Twitter I posted. I find it hard to believe no one in the FO thinks Sully shouldn’t be canned. I would of just guessed if they were planning on firing him they wouldn’t be saying he’s a great coach. I imagine Burke would say something blunt or sidestep it all together. Oh well. Time will tell.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 10 @ 7:13 PM ET
Hopefully. That was a copy and paste from Twitter I posted. I find it hard to believe no one in the FO thinks Sully shouldn’t be canned. I would of just guessed if they were planning on firing him they wouldn’t be saying he’s a great coach. I imagine Burke would say something blunt or sidestep it all together. Oh well. Time will tell.
- 10inchTerror

Sometimes an endorsement is the kiss of death.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 10 @ 7:15 PM ET
Good read. Couldn't agree more about getting Morehouse out of the on ice product. Yohe said Morehouse used to cross the line with Shero. I'm sure he did the same with Rutherford.

A couple things I noticed.... Jason Karmanos was interviewed for this job. That pretty much blows up the theory about Rutherford being salty with firing him. That decision was clearly JR's alone.

DK has a nice piece up today on the entire situation. Basically says (again), Rutherford quit because the Pens weren't willing to extend his contract and the guy mostly making the call on that was Mario. Rutherford didn't believe he had to sing for his supper.

- madmike71

After JJ and Matheson he needed to do a lot more than sing.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 10 @ 7:15 PM ET
Sometimes an endorsement is the kiss of death.
- Hockey66


I think he's a dead man walking tbh. Only a matter of time. Players have tuned Sully out.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 10 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think he's a dead man walking tbh. Only a matter of time. Players have tuned Sully out.
- madmike71

I think so, too. I think pretty much everyone involved knows, too.

Just think if JR hadn't resigned. This definitely needed to happen now (should have happened a while ago). I feel good about the direction now.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
Sometimes an endorsement is the kiss of death.
- Hockey66

Yea hopefully haha
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 10 @ 7:24 PM ET
I think so, too. I think pretty much everyone involved knows, too.

Just think if JR hadn't resigned. This definitely needed to happen now (should have happened a while ago). I feel good about the direction now.

- Hockey66


Ditto. Should have happened after that play-in disaster....maybe even the year before. Sully has 3 more years on his deal however. For a team losing a shyt load of money, that might be a problem.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 10 @ 7:27 PM ET
Ditto. Should have happened after that play-in disaster....maybe even the year before. Sully has 3 more years on his deal however. For a team losing a shyt load of money, that might be a problem.
- madmike71

I'm pretty sure that players still make their buyout payment in addition to their new salary with a new team, but I think I remember that coaches don't keep getting their old salary if they get a new coaching gig.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:29 PM ET
I'm pretty sure that players still make their buyout payment in addition to their new salary with a new team, but I think I remember that coaches don't keep getting their old salary if they get a new coaching gig.
- Hockey66

Haha are you insinuating the owners setup for another team to hire Sullivan right after we fire him😉
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 10 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm pretty sure that players still make their buyout payment in addition to their new salary with a new team, but I think I remember that coaches don't keep getting their old salary if they get a new coaching gig.
- Hockey66


Correct, but Sullivan won't need to take the first job offered. he may choose to take a year or two of paid vacation. I would.
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