Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish:

The main reason for this is:

The biggest surprise will be:

The biggest disappointment will be:

The unsung hero will be:

The goat will be:

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:

Alexander Kerfoot:

Mitchell Marner:

Auston Matthews:

Ilya Mikheyev:

William Nylander:

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:

Jason Spezza:

John Tavares:

Joe Thornton:

Jimmy Vesey:


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:

TJ Brodie:

Travis Dermott:

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:

Morgan Rielly:

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:


Playoffs:

North Division winner:

West Division winner:

Central Division winner:

East Division winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:

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The Leafs will finish: 2nd in division

The main reason for this is: Refs

The biggest surprise will be: Simmonds

The biggest disappointment will be: Brodie

The unsung hero will be: Vesey

The goat will be: Holl

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Brodie does not hit or score

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Dermott can skate, hit and play both sides

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Simmonds

If I was GM, I would have: traded for Savard, Jenner, Korpisalo

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: Getting closer


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:[marlies)

Joey Anderson: plays 9 games with Leafs but has 4 goals

Alex Barabanov: injured early

Travis Boyd: 2 goals, 5 assists

Justin Brazeau:[too young)

Adam Brooks: Marlies

Rourke Chartier: no

Pierre Engvall: will be traded to Colorado

Tyler Gaudet: marlies

Zach Hyman: 15 goals, 12 assists

Alexander Kerfoot: 12 goals, 18 assists

Mitchell Marner: breaks foot blocking shot on pk,focuses on new fashion line or 18G/44A

Auston Matthews: 🥇35G, 31 assists

Ilya Mikheyev: bounces between lines 11G/18A

William Nylander: 23G/25A (Jumbo takes him under his wing)

Nic Petan: Waivers

Nicholas Robertson: 7 goals

Scott Sabourin: Marlies

Wayne Simmonds: 19G/9A

Jason Spezza: 8G/10A

John Tavares: 24G/33A

Joe Thornton: 3G/26A takes willie under his wing

Jimmy Vesey: 13G/15A nice surprise


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 2G, 4A

TJ Brodie: 4G/11A not expecting good results

Travis Dermott: big step forward filling in on right side with Rielly 8G/13A

Justin Holl: traded to Minnesota for Addison 👍

Mac Hollowell: marlies best dman

Teemu Kivihalme: marlies

Mikko Lehtonen: decent, takes Holl’s spot by end of year - 13 pts

Timothy Liljegren: 2nd best Marlies dman

Martin Marincin: +20 for Marlies

Jake Muzzin: hero, 5G/15A

Morgan Rielly: 7G/21A bounces through partners before ending with Lehtonen/Dermott

Calle Rosen: Marlies

Rasmus Sandin: 4G/7A


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: Freddie! Freddie! Has great year and fans beg him to stay but he says 🖕

Jack Campbell: fine

Aaron Dell: plays 3 games

Michael Hutchinson: no

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Vancouver Toronto Calgary Montreal


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado Vegas St Louis Anaheim


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): TB Carolina Dallas Columbus


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Washington Philadelphia NYR NYI

Most surprising team: Anaheim

Most disappointing team: Boston

Art Ross winner: McDavid/Eichel

Hart winner: MacKinnon

Norris winner: Jones

Calder winner: Zegras

Vezina winner: Gibson

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Vancouver

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Carolina

East Division winner: Philadelphia

Stanley Cup winner: Philadelphia

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Couturier

Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish:Losing Conference Finals

The main reason for this is:A bad goal

The biggest surprise will be: Marner, he will make the POs his b1tch this year. No more complaints about his Cap hit.

The biggest disappointment will be: Tavares

The unsung hero will be: Muzzin

The goat will be: Matthews

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Marincin, just because.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):Kerfoot

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:Simmonds/Thornton. Simmonds will be signed long term after this season.

If I was GM, I would have: Traded Nylander for a tough #1RHD, I like Nylander but we need balance.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: IT WILL FINALLY CLICK BUT THEY WILL COME UP A LITTLE SHORT, WE WILL ALL BE EXCITED FOR NEXT SEASON.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:

Alexander Kerfoot: 15g, 20a

Mitchell Marner: 100pts+ this season

Auston Matthews: 54g, 32a

Ilya Mikheyev: 18g, 25a

William Nylander:36g, 31a

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson: 15g, 25a

Scott Sabourin: Fight some fu3kers?

Wayne Simmonds: 19g, 21a, he's going to be a really nice fit

Jason Spezza:

John Tavares: 31g, 28a

Joe Thornton: Steady and a real vet presence, doesn't matter

Jimmy Vesey: 16g, 14a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: Going to be a huge upgrade and noticeable for good things.

TJ Brodie:

Travis Dermott:

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:

Morgan Rielly: 24g, 39a

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:16g, 31a


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 915%, 2.2GA

Jack Campbell: Will be a GREAT B/UP

Aaron Dell: Kraken

Michael Hutchinson: (frank) right off

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):Calgary, Leafs, Edmonton, Vancouver


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Boston sucks


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):Boston sucks


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):Boston Sucks

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:


Playoffs:

North Division winner:

West Division winner:

Central Division winner:

East Division winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
- Atomic Wedgie

The Leafs will finish: 1st or 2nd in the North Division

The main reason for this is: Only 3 teams are above average

The biggest surprise will be: Robertson, if he plays

The biggest disappointment will be: Watching Holl play if they're stupid enough to play him

The unsung hero will be: Freddy

The goat will be: In Arizona, maybe

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Holl for some reason.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Simmonds, if healthy.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Bring in Thornton to keep the kids in line, hopefully.

If I was GM, I would have: Made roster space by getting rid of useless players that have no business being on this team like Marincin, Petan, and Holl.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: Useless

Joey Anderson: Hopefully can tun into the next Hyman in a year or so.

Alex Barabanov: 5G, 7A

Travis Boyd: Shouldn't play

Justin Brazeau: Marlies

Adam Brooks: Marlies

Rourke Chartier: Marlies?

Pierre Engvall: 4G, 8A

Tyler Gaudet: nah

Zach Hyman: 15G, 15A

Alexander Kerfoot: 9G, 21A

Mitchell Marner: 12G, 55A

Auston Matthews: 40G, 22A

Ilya Mikheyev: 8G, 22A

William Nylander: 20G, 30A

Nic Petan: Nah

Nicholas Robertson: If he plays; 10G, 15A

Scott Sabourin: Nah

Wayne Simmonds: 5G, 10A

Jason Spezza: 5G, 15A

John Tavares: 28G, 25A

Joe Thornton: 3G, 25A

Jimmy Vesey: Nah


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 1G, 9A

TJ Brodie: 5G, 25A

Travis Dermott: 3G, 13A

Justin Holl: Nah

Mac Hollowell: Marlies

Teemu Kivihalme: Nah

Mikko Lehtonen: 7G, 17A

Timothy Liljegren: If he plays; 1G, 12A

Martin Marincin: Super Nah

Jake Muzzin: 4G, 13A

Morgan Rielly: 5G, 35A

Calle Rosen: Nah

Rasmus Sandin: If he plays- 3G, 15A


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 27W

Jack Campbell: 8W

Aaron Dell: 1W

Michael Hutchinson: Super Nah

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):
Toronto
Calgary
Edmonton
Toss Up but I'll say Winterpeg


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):
Colorado
Vegas
St. Louis
Minnesota


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):
Tampa
Carolina
Dallas
Florida


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):
Washington
Philly
Pittsburgh
Boston but maybe NYR


Most surprising team: NYR

Most disappointing team: Boston, NYI (others would be surprised but not me), Nashville

Art Ross winner: McJesus

Hart winner: MacKinnon (been robbed twice already)

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Lafrenière

Vezina winner: Freddy just to piss off his haters

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Washington

Stanley Cup winner: Colorado

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: MacKinnon

The Leafs will finish: 2nd

The main reason for this is: McDavid/Drai

The biggest surprise will be: Sandin

The biggest disappointment will be: Nylander

The unsung hero will be: Matthews

The goat will be: Matthews

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Dermott. Because.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Andersen. Because

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Vesey maybe?

If I was GM, I would have: Traded Nylander for a defenseman

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: They have to win a round or Dubas should be fired.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov: 2g 6a

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall: 3g 7a

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman: 9g 20a

Alexander Kerfoot: 12g 23a

Mitchell Marner: 15g 50a

Auston Matthews: 33g 23a

Ilya Mikheyev: 13g 20a

William Nylander: 18g 23a

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson: 12g 15a

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds: 5g 8a

Jason Spezza: 4g 6a

John Tavares: 28g 36a

Joe Thornton: 2g 24a

Jimmy Vesey: 9g 15a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 0g 7a

TJ Brodie: 3g 20a

Travis Dermott: 5g 15a

Justin Holl: 2g 10a

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen: 5g 15a

Timothy Liljegren: 1g 7a

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin: 5g 20a

Morgan Rielly: 15g 30a

Calle Rosen: 3g 6a

Rasmus Sandin: 5g 15a


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 25W .918 SV%

Jack Campbell: 9W .905 SV%

Aaron Dell: 1W .893 SV%

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): EDM, TOR, CGY, WPG


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): COL, VGK, STL, SJ


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): TB, CAR, DAL, CHI


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): WSH, PHI, BOS, BUF

Most surprising team: BUF

Most disappointing team: MTL

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: McDavid

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Lafreniere

Vezina winner: Vasilevskiy

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: TOR

West Division winner: COL

Central Division winner: TB

East Division winner: WSH

Stanley Cup winner: COL

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: MacKinnon

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish: 3rd in the Canadian division

The main reason for this is: the competition

The biggest surprise will be: Vessy

The biggest disappointment will be: Nylander

The unsung hero will be: The Captain Tavares

The goat will be: nylander or marner

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Thornton age/skating

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Holl

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: his cap management

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:

They are not wimps.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman: 18g/22a

Alexander Kerfoot: 12g/18a

Mitchell Marner: 22g/46a

Auston Matthews: 46g/25a

Ilya Mikheyev: 11g/19a

William Nylander: 25g/28a

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson: 7g/10a

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds: 15g/15a

Jason Spezza: 7g/12a

John Tavares: 22g/32a

Joe Thornton: 8g/32a

Jimmy Vesey: 13g/20a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 3g/9a

TJ Brodie: 9g/28a

Travis Dermott: 5g/13a

Justin Holl: 5g/13a

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen: 6g/24a

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin: 3g/14a

Morgan Rielly: 13g/31a

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 22W - 15L

Jack Campbell: 9W - 10L

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Edmonton, Montreal, Toronto, Calgary


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Vegas, Colorado, St. Louis, Minnesota


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Tampa, Carolina, Dallas, Columbus


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Philadelphia, Washington, Boston, Pittsburg

Most surprising team: Ottawa Senators

Most disappointing team: Leafs

Art Ross winner: MacKinnon

Hart winner: MacKinnon

Norris winner:

Calder winner: Lafrenire (sp)

Vezina winner: Carter Hart

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

Canadian Division winner: Leafs

West Division winner: Vegas

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Philadelphia

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs are the champs (my HOMERISHIM) but really Philly will win.

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: HART.

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the North

The main reason for this is: Depth

The biggest surprise will be: Mikko Lehtonen

The biggest disappointment will be: Mitch Marner

The unsung hero will be: Brodie

The goat will be: Dermott

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Kerfoot.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Holl.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Kapanen trade.

If I was GM, I would have: Made the Weegar trade.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: The leafs will be decent and hockeybuzzers will stop endlessly whining about Dubas and Nylander.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov: 9G, 12A

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman: 13G, 16A

Alexander Kerfoot: 11G, 19A

Mitchell Marner: 12G, 35A

Auston Matthews: 46G, 34A

Ilya Mikheyev: 15G, 21A

William Nylander: 31G, 33A

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds: 13G, 12A

Jason Spezza: 6G, 18A

John Tavares: 33G, 38A

Joe Thornton: 4G, 21A

Jimmy Vesey: 10G, 14A


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 3G, 11A

TJ Brodie: 7G, 26A

Travis Dermott: 5G, 8A

Justin Holl: 1G, 10A

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen: 11G, 16A

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin: 6G, 14A

Morgan Rielly: 16G, 31A

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 2.41 GAA, .918 SV%

Jack Campbell: 2.62 GAA, .914

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):Colorado, Vegas, St Louis, Arizona


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Dallas, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Chicago


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Washington, Philadelphia, Rangers, Islanders

Most surprising team: Rangers

Most disappointing team: Boston

Art Ross winner: Draisaitl

Hart winner: Draisaitl

Norris winner: Rielly

Calder winner: Lafreniere

Vezina winner: Shesterkin

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Dallas

East Division winner: Washington

Stanley Cup winner: Colorado

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Mackinnon

The Leafs will finish: 3rd in Canadian Division

The main reason for this is: They make choke against garbage teams

The biggest surprise will be: More solid defense and reduced goals against

The biggest disappointment will be: Robertson struggles

The unsung hero will be: Simmonds

The goat will be: Matthews

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Thornton because he is old and slow

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Nylander because he can pass and shoot and his neutral zone play is solid

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Sign Brodie

If I was GM, I would have: Cleared space and made a run at Pietrangelo

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: Better than last season but still missing the drive to win it all


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: 0g, 0a

Joey Anderson: 3g, 10a

Alex Barabanov: 1g, 4a

Travis Boyd: 6g, 14A

Justin Brazeau: 0g, 0a

Adam Brooks:0g, 0a

Rourke Chartier:0g, 0a

Pierre Engvall: 8g, 19a,

Tyler Gaudet:0g, 0a

Zach Hyman: 14g, 29a

Alexander Kerfoot: 18g, 21a

Mitchell Marner: 16g, 42a

Auston Matthews: 38g, 30a

Ilya Mikheyev: 11g, 17a

William Nylander: 19g, 20a

Nic Petan:0g, 0a

Nicholas Robertson: 7g, 4a

Scott Sabourin:0g, 0a

Wayne Simmonds: 8g, 12a

Jason Spezza:9g, 14a

John Tavares: 14g, 37a

Joe Thornton:4g, 22a

Jimmy Vesey: 13g, 12a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 2g, 8a

TJ Brodie: 6g, 22a

Travis Dermott: 1g, 4a

Justin Holl: 4g, 12a

Mac Hollowell:0g, 0a

Teemu Kivihalme: 0g, 0a

Mikko Lehtonen: 7g, 14a

Timothy Liljegren: 0g, 0a

Martin Marincin: 0g, 0a

Jake Muzzin: 3g, 16a

Morgan Rielly: 10g, 25a

Calle Rosen:0g, 0a

Rasmus Sandin: 2g, 12a


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 25w, 9.13 SV%, 2.41 GAA

Jack Campbell: 11w, 9.21 SV%, 2.55 GAA

Aaron Dell: 0w

Michael Hutchinson: 0w

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):

Vancouver
Winnipeg
Toronto
Calgary


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):
Colorado
Vegas
St Louis
Minnesota

Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):
Tampa
Dallas
Carolina
Nashville


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):
Boston
Washington
Philly
NYR


Most surprising team:
NYR

Most disappointing team:
NYI

Art Ross winner:
McDavid

Hart winner:
McKinnon

Norris winner:
Pietrangelo

Calder winner:
Shesterkin

Vezina winner:
Lehner

Richard winner:
Pastrnak


Playoffs:

North Division winner:
Toronto

West Division winner:
Vegas

Central Division winner:
Tampa

East Division winner:
Philly

Stanley Cup winner:
Veags

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
Stone

The Leafs will finish: 3rd in North

The main reason for this is: Forwards refuse to play team defense. Andersen is a bottom third starting goalie. .500 against Ottawa.

The biggest surprise will be: Nylander has a great year.

The biggest disappointment will be: Brodie, ends up being no better than what they had.

The unsung hero will be: Marner

The goat will be: Ander5en

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Ander5en, and the reason is that he gives up too many softies

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Holl. Decent, steady Dman.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Trading Kapanen

If I was GM, I would have: Traded Matthews for Jones , (seriously, no idea)

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: Nothing has changed.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: Huh?

Joey Anderson: who?

Alex Barabanov: plays 14 games of unnoticeable hockey

Travis Boyd: huh?

Justin Brazeau: Reminds me of the Jokinen era

Adam Brooks: Career AHKer

Rourke Chartier: WTF?

Pierre Engvall: Meh. Just a guy, expendable

Tyler Gaudet: You're kidding me, right.

Zach Hyman: 11g 18A 29 pts.

Alexander Kerfoot: who cares.

Mitchell Marner: 26G 34A 60 pts.

Auston Matthews: 31G 26A 57 pts.

Ilya Mikheyev: 8G 18A 26 pts.

William Nylander: 21G 22A 43 pts.

Nic Petan: Good lord.

Nicholas Robertson: 3G 1A 4 pts.

Scott Sabourin: Are you making these names up?

Wayne Simmonds: Only plays 21 games, 1 G 6 A 7 pts.

Jason Spezza: 4G, 8A 12 pts.

John Tavares: 22G 32A 54 pts.

Joe Thornton: 6G 18A 24 pts.

Jimmy Vesey: 3G 5A 8 pts.


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: Hopefully he hits people.

TJ Brodie: 5G, 16 A 21 pts.

Travis Dermott: 4G 14A 18 pts.

Justin Holl: 2G 11A 13 pts.

Mac Hollowell: Waterboy

Teemu Kivihalme: Asst. Waterboy

Mikko Lehtonen: 3G, 8A 11 pts. Back to Russia for the 21-22 season

Timothy Liljegren: 1G, 2 A 3 pts. healthy scratch

Martin Marincin: I refuse to acknowledge this.

Jake Muzzin: 5G 18A 23 pts

Morgan Rielly: 14G 22A 36 pts.

Calle Rosen: 0G 4A 4 pts.

Rasmus Sandin: 2G 15A 17 pts.


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: Hold your breath

Jack Campbell: Better be good because he is the best goalie they have

Aaron Dell: Hopefully don't see him

Michael Hutchinson: see above

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):
Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver

Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):
Colorado, Vegas, St. Louis, Minnesota

Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):
Tampa, Carolina, Dallas, Columbus

Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):
Philadelphia, Washington, Pittsburgh, Rangers

Most surprising team: Edmonton wont be as bad as people expect

Most disappointing team: Montreal

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: McDavid

Norris winner: Heiskanen

Calder winner: Stuetzle

Vezina winner: Vasilevski

Richard winner: Draisaitl

Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Washington

Stanley Cup winner: Tampa

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Point

Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish:

The main reason for this is:

The biggest surprise will be:

The biggest disappointment will be:

The unsung hero will be:

The goat will be:

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:

Alexander Kerfoot:

Mitchell Marner:

Auston Matthews:

Ilya Mikheyev:

William Nylander:

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:

Jason Spezza:

John Tavares:

Joe Thornton:

Jimmy Vesey:


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:

TJ Brodie:

Travis Dermott:

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:

Morgan Rielly:

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:


Playoffs:

North Division winner:

West Division winner:

Central Division winner:

East Division winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
- Atomic Wedgie

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The Leafs will finish: 1st in can div

The main reason for this is: Leafs r da best

The biggest surprise will be: me

The biggest disappointment will be: me

The unsung hero will be: Brodie

The goat will be: bogo

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): nobody qualifies

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): kerfoot....cuz i said so

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: the draft

If I was GM, I would have: signed AP

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:

cups baby!!! all the cups
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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: null

Joey Anderson: 7g 6a

Alex Barabanov: 4g 8a

Travis Boyd: 11g 11a

Justin Brazeau: null

Adam Brooks: nill

Rourke Chartier: who?

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet: who?

Zach Hyman: 13g 14a

Alexander Kerfoot: 9g 11a

Mitchell Marner: 11g 36a

Auston Matthews: 33g 23a

Ilya Mikheyev: 12g 8a

William Nylander: 16g 27a

Nic Petan: 3g 1a

Nicholas Robertson: 8g 4a

Scott Sabourin:who?

Wayne Simmonds:5g 4a

Jason Spezza: 4g 11a

John Tavares: 23g 31a

Joe Thornton: 2g 22a

Jimmy Vesey: 8g 8a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:0g 3a

TJ Brodie: 4g 16a

Travis Dermott: 2g 12a

Justin Holl:1g 6a

Mac Hollowell:null

Teemu Kivihalme:null

Mikko Lehtonen: 2g 8a

Timothy Liljegren: null

Martin Marincin: 0g 1a

Jake Muzzin: 6g 12a

Morgan Rielly: 8g 23a

Calle Rosen:null

Rasmus Sandin: 5g 14a


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: the starter

Jack Campbell: the backup

Aaron Dell: the backups backup

Michael Hutchinson: the backups backup backup

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):

Leafs
Flams
Habs
Edmonton

Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):
Avs
Vegas
StL
Minn


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):
TB
Canes
Florida
Nash



Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):
Philly
Bos
Pitts
Wash


Most surprising team: Florida

Most disappointing team: Edmonton

Art Ross winner: Matthews

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Hedman

Calder winner: Zegras

Vezina winner: Vaz

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Leafs

West Division winner: Vegas

Central Division winner: TB

East Division winner: Philly

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Nylander

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The Leafs will finish: 1st in the North

The main reason for this is: Forward depth, defensive additions, decent backup

The biggest surprise will be: Rielly

The biggest disappointment will be: Dermott

The unsung hero will be: Hyman

The goat will be: Engvall

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Engvall because he has lead hands and resembles a giraffe.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Kerfoot, small but hard working with decent hands

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Traded Kapanen for a first

If I was GM, I would have: Added Perry and dumped Engvall

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: Vancouver's suspect goaltending will make them Toronto's female dog this year.



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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: minors

Joey Anderson: 2G 4 A

Alex Barabanov: 10G 10A

Travis Boyd: minors

Justin Brazeau: minors

Adam Brooks: Taxi squad 2 G 3 A

Rourke Chartier: minors

Pierre Engvall: Taxi Squad 3 G 4 A Traded at deadline

Tyler Gaudet: Minors

Zach Hyman: 18 G 18 A

Alexander Kerfoot: 14 G 15 A

Mitchell Marner: 19 G 53 A

Auston Matthews: 40 G 30 A

Ilya Mikheyev: 12 G 20A

William Nylander: 25 G 25 A

Nic Petan: Taxi Squad 2 G 3 A

Nicholas Robertson: Taxi Squad 12 G 8 A

Scott Sabourin: Minors

Wayne Simmonds: 15 G 12 A

Jason Spezza:10 G 12 A

John Tavares: 25 G 30 A

Joe Thornton: 6 G 25 A

Jimmy Vesey: 10 G 15 A


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 1 G 9 A

TJ Brodie: 10 G 20 A

Travis Dermott: 4 G 10 A

Justin Holl: 7 G 8 A

Mac Hollowell: Minors

Teemu Kivihalme: minors

Mikko Lehtonen: 10 G 15 A

Timothy Liljegren: Taxi squad 3 G 7 A

Martin Marincin: will not play

Jake Muzzin: 8 G 10 A

Morgan Rielly: 18 G 35 A

Calle Rosen: minors

Rasmus Sandin: Taxi Squad 3 G 7 A

The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 23 W .909 SV lets in some softies

Jack Campbell: 10 W .919 SV reliable

Aaron Dell: 2 W .895 SV ( not a big factor)

Michael Hutchinson: will not play

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, St. Louis, Vegas, Arizona


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Tampa, Carolina, Dallas, Columbus


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Washington, Boston, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia

Most surprising team: Carolina

Most disappointing team: Vancouver

Art Ross Winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Rielly

Calder winner: Lafreniere

Vezina winner: Vasilevskiy

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Carolina

East Division winner: Boston

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto (blue and white glasses but I don't give a (frank))

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Nylander (just to piss off a loudmouth)

The Leafs will finish: hoping for 1st or 2nd in division

The main reason for this is: They should do well in a shorten season

The biggest surprise will be: Bogo has a good year

The biggest disappointment will be: Robertson maybe....if he plays. Only because of the high expectations some have. Actually....I'll go with Dermott.

The unsung hero will be: Andersen

The goat will be: 4th line in Arizona

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Holl. I dont think he sucks, just not a top 4 guy yet. But that could change this year.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Andersen, has his issues, but hasnt been as bad as some think.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: I've always liked Simmonds

If I was GM, I would have: Not sign Pietra

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: Leafs will win some games, and they will lose some. They wont be as good as some think but they wont be as bad as others think.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: dont care

Joey Anderson: dont care

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd: dont care

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks: dont care

Rourke Chartier: dont care

Pierre Engvall: hope he does well. not sure how much he plays

Tyler Gaudet: dont care

Zach Hyman: 38pts 21g 17a

Alexander Kerfoot: 25pts

Mitchell Marner: 65pts

Auston Matthews: 64pts

Ilya Mikheyev: 33pts

William Nylander: 48pts

Nic Petan: dont care

Nicholas Robertson: dunno

Scott Sabourin: dont care

Wayne Simmonds:25pts

Jason Spezza: 25pts

John Tavares: 57pts

Joe Thornton: 25pts

Jimmy Vesey: 22pts


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 15pts

TJ Brodie: 20pts

Travis Dermott: dunno

Justin Holl: dont care

Mac Hollowell: dont care

Teemu Kivihalme: dunno

Mikko Lehtonen: Hmm hoping for good things from him. 20pts

Timothy Liljegren: dunno

Martin Marincin: really dont care

Jake Muzzin: 28pts

Morgan Rielly: 35pts

Calle Rosen: dont care

Rasmus Sandin: Dunno


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: a bunch of games he wont get credit for

Jack Campbell:hoping for .600 w%

Aaron Dell: not sure if he'll play

Michael Hutchinson: dont care

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):
I feel like 2-3 teams could finish top but
Leafs
Edmonton
Vancouver
Montreal

Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):
Vegas
St Louis
Colorado
Minnie

Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):
Tampa
Dallas
Carolina
Florida ?

Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):
This is the toughest division imo
Wash
NYR
Boston
Buffalo
But I mean NYI and philly could easily be in there as well.

Most surprising team:
I guess Buffalo? They gotta turn it around sometime

Most disappointing team:
I guess Buffalo...cause fack them

Art Ross winner: no matter

Hart winner: no matter

Norris winner: no matter

Calder winner: no matter

Vezina winner:no matter

Richard winner: no matter


Playoffs:
All I want is for the Leafs to make it to the the 2nd or 3rd round, dont care about the rest.

North Division winner: leafs

West Division winner: Vegas

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Wash/NYR

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:

Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish:

The main reason for this is:

The biggest surprise will be:

The biggest disappointment will be:

The unsung hero will be:

The goat will be:

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:

Alexander Kerfoot:

Mitchell Marner:

Auston Matthews:

Ilya Mikheyev:

William Nylander:

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:

Jason Spezza:

John Tavares:

Joe Thornton:

Jimmy Vesey:


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:

TJ Brodie:

Travis Dermott:

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:

Morgan Rielly:

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:


Playoffs:

North Division winner:

West Division winner:

Central Division winner:

East Division winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
- Atomic Wedgie

Alright Wedgie, here goes;

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the North (Canadian) Division

The main reason for this is: Matthews puts up 45 goals in 56 games

The biggest surprise will be: Joe Thornton... Jumbo Joe puts up 40 points.

The biggest disappointment will be: As long as he is still on the team, it's Marincin

The unsung hero will be: Rielly, he puts up 40 points.

The goat will be: Still Marincin if he has a roster spot

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Dermott, I like the re-signing, but he'll get exposed a lot.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Bogosian. I think he surprises a few people with his physical play and has a spot in the top 4

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Brodie

If I was GM, I would have: tried to sign Hoffman ad Hamonic to PTO's

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: top 3 team in the league and SC Champs.. (eventually, I have to be right)


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: 0 across the board

Joey Anderson: 2 goals 5 assists

Alex Barabanov: 12 goals 9 assists

Travis Boyd: 1 goal 3 assists

Justin Brazeau: 0 across the board

Adam Brooks: 0 across the board

Rourke Chartier: 0 across the board

Pierre Engvall: 10 goals, 12 assists

Tyler Gaudet: 0 across the board

Zach Hyman: 16 goals 21 assists

Alexander Kerfoot: 14 goals 18 assists

Mitchell Marner: 21 goals 40 assists

Auston Matthews: 45 goals 25 assists

Ilya Mikheyev: 12 goals 12 assists

William Nylander: 22 goals 22 assists

Nic Petan: 0 across the board

Nicholas Robertson: 8 goals 6 assists

Scott Sabourin: 0 across the board

Wayne Simmonds: 15 goals 12 assists

Jason Spezza: 9 goals 16 assists

John Tavares: 24 goals 28 assists

Joe Thornton: 6 goals 34 assists

Jimmy Vesey: 4 goals 6 assists


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 1 goal 6 assists

TJ Brodie: 4 goals 16 assists

Travis Dermott: 2 goals 12 assists

Justin Holl: 3 goals 7 assists

Mac Hollowell: 0 across the board

Teemu Kivihalme: 0 across the board

Mikko Lehtonen: 5 goals 11 assists

Timothy Liljegren: 2 goals 6 assists

Martin Marincin: 0 across the board

Jake Muzzin: 1 goal 12 assists

Morgan Rielly: 10 goals 30 assists

Calle Rosen: 0 across the board

Rasmus Sandin: 3 goals 12 assists


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 24 wins .918 save %. 2.75 GAA

Jack Campbell: 10 wins .915 save % 2.55 GAA

Aaron Dell: 2 wins .900 save % 2.88 GAA

Michael Hutchinson: 0 across the board



Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouverr

Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, Vegas, St. Louis, Minnesota

Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Tampa, Dallas, Carolina, Florida (depends on Bobrovsky)

Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Washington, Philly, Boston, NYR

Most surprising team: Minnesota

Most disappointing team: Buffalo as always

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Heiskanen

Calder winner: Lafreniere

Vezina winner: Vasilievskiy

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa Bay

East Division winner: Philadelphia

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Matthews

The Leafs will finish:First in their division.

The main reason for this is: they simply have more talent than the other Canadian teams. And they don't have the mental block of playing Boston and Tampa.

The biggest surprise will be: Simmonds. Yeah, I'm drinking the Kool-aid, but I've always liked this guy. So I'm 100% buying in to his suggestion that this year will be the first year in a while that he is healthy.

The biggest disappointment will be: Jason Spezza. He was brought in to do a job. That job will now be done by Joe Thornton. Look for Spezza to be gradually phased out the Leafs' game day squad.

The unsung hero will be: Andersen. Sure, he gives up soft goals, but he hasn't been the Leafs' problem.

The goat will be: Same as above: Andersen. I get the feeling at the end of the year, barring a Stanley Cup, we will let him walk. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what we got 'til it's gone...

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Bogosian. We seem to forget he was cut from the Sabres last year.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Nylander. Best value contract on the team - not even close.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Signing Simmonds. He's the grit we need.

If I was GM, I would have: Let Spezza go. Yeah, sorry.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: It's put up or shut up time. I'm not terribly concerned about the regular season - I don't think there is much advantage in finishing as a higher seed. But if the Leafs don't win the North Division in the playoffs, you need to do reconstructive surgery in the offseason, including trading one of the big four.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: Don't care

Joey Anderson: Don't care

Alex Barabanov: Others may care, but I don't. He may get a handful of games if we run into injury problems, but he could be replaced easily.

Travis Boyd: Who?

Justin Brazeau: Why?

Adam Brooks: What?

Rourke Chartier: Nope

Pierre Engvall: Fringe NHLer.

Tyler Gaudet: I hope you enjoy the cool swag you got for training camp. Those sweatshirts are sweeeeeet!

Zach Hyman: Interesting that he is starting the season on the 3rd line. I like the guy, but I think his numbers are inflated due to who he has played with - I'd like to see what others can do in his place. Could this be a power move by Dubas to lower his salary expectations? My hope is he demonstrates he can contribute to the 3rd line in a role that better suits his skillset (or lack thereof).

Alexander Kerfoot: I'd rather see him as a winger than a centre. I don't think he has enough jam to be a checking centre. I predict this will end badly.

Mitchell Marner:Doesn't matter what this guy does in the regular season - it's put up or shut up in the playoffs. If he lays an egg in the post-season, it's going to get awfully dark for Mitchy in Leafs Nation. Sorry, fellas, I'm pessimistic he can do it in the playoffs.

Auston Matthews: Top 5 forwards in the NHL. Haterz gonna hate. Will be top 3 again for Richard Trophy.

Ilya Mikheyev: Leafs Nation has over-rated this guy. Expect a sophmore slump, and the Leafs Nation pendulum to swing from "best player ever" to "I have tar - does anyone have feathers?"

William Nylander: Will continue to be under-rated by 100% of non-Leafs fans, and 40% of Leafs fans. Best player/$ on the team. Other GMs know this, though, so I would trade him for a stud RHD. But I mean STUD!!!

Nic Petan: Don't know, don't care.

Nicholas Robertson: Leafs fans have over-rated this dude. It's not that I am saying he is bad - it's that I'm saying he's still early in his development curve. Look for him to be on the taxi squad, but he won't get many games, and he won't make any positive contributions when he does suit up. Patience, my Leafy friends.

Scott Sabourin: I have never heard of this guy before training camp, and I kinda wish it had stayed that way.

Wayne Simmonds: I have drunk the blue Kool-aid!!! I predict he will have a bounce-back season, based upon being off for a year and allowing his body to heal. I hope he gets elevated to the 2nd line. The Leafs need his grit (i.e., the grit he had 5 years ago).

Jason Spezza: I wish him nothing but the best, but with the signing of Thornton, we have no need for Spezza anymore. Look for him to lose his roster spot.

John Tavares: I'm starting to wonder if the Leafs would have been better off keeping Kadri, not signing JT and keeping their salary cap powder dry for a RHD. I'm not going to judge him on last year, as he was injured, but I still predict a decline from his numbers from two years ago. I don't see him making those around him better. I hope I end up eating these words.

Joe Thornton: I hope that Leafs Nation sets their expectations at a reasonable level for this guy. We did not sign him to score 60 points (and by that, I mean a 60 point pace over 82 games). If he can score at a .5 pts/game pace, I'll be wildly happy. I like this signing.

Jimmy Vesey: I guess the strategy was to go out and sign a bushel of 3rd line players for cheap, because that's all this guy is. My hope is that I don't hate him, but I know I'm never going to love him.


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: I suspect this guy will become my whipping boy this year. I don't think he will make a positive impact on the team.

TJ Brodie: Won't be bad, but won't be good enough to make a significant difference. I fear the Leafs' defence is still sub-par.

Travis Dermott: This is his last chance, and I don't think he is going to seize it.

Justin Holl: He's fine in a limited role, but we are dead if he needs to play top 4.

Mac Hollowell: Don't know or care

Teemu Kivihalme: I have no idea who he is.

Mikko Lehtonen: It would be foolish of me to make a prediction, as I have no idea what this guy can do.

Timothy Liljegren: Not this year.

Martin Marincin: I no longer hate this guy, as he is a spare part.

Jake Muzzin: His injury last year showed us how valuable this guy is. I hope he stays healthyy, because he is the most important defenceman we have.

Morgan Rielly: Look for him to have a better year this year, as he is healthy. Won't be as good as two years ago, but will be better than last.

Calle Rosen: Who?

Rasmus Sandin: Not this year.


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: Leafs fans need to shut the frank up - this guy is good enough. He's looked bad the past few years because the defence has been horrible - and I think it will be again.

Jack Campbell: I like this guy - I think he can be a 1B more than a backup.

Aaron Dell: I have no idea

Michael Hutchinson: Not an NHL goalie

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):
Edmonton
Toronto
Calgary
Winnipeg

I predict this will be the closest division - the least amount of points between teams 1-6.


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):
Colorado
Vegas
St. Louis
Minny


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):
Tampa
Nashville
Carolina
Dallas

Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):
Philly
Boston
Washington
Pittsburgh

Most surprising team:
Philly

Most disappointing team:
Montreal

Art Ross winner: McDavid (the North Division will be all offense)

Hart winner:McDavid

Norris winner: Pieterangelo

Calder winner: I have no idea. So I'm going to say Robertson - knowing full well it won't be him.

Vezina winner: Carter Hart

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner:Vegas upsets Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner:Philly

Stanley Cup winner: I'm going to go with Vegas, because picking Tampa is boring

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Fleury. Yeah, you heard it here first.

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The Leafs will finish: 2nd in the Canadian division

The main reason for this is: Freddy the Goalie

The biggest surprise will be: Lehtonen

The biggest disappointment will be: Simmons

The unsung hero will be: Lehtonen

The goat will be: Well the GOAT is gone - Kerfoot

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Thornton

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Vessy
The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Kap trade

If I was GM, I would have: traded one of the high priced player

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: ok. I've been watching Cobra Kai and they say the Leafs will not be a bunch of pussies this year


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman: 15g/20a

Alexander Kerfoot: 13g/18a

Mitchell Marner: 25g/41a

Auston Matthews: 36g/30a

Ilya Mikheyev: 9g/10a

William Nylander:19g/28a

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds: 5g/2a

Jason Spezza: 8g/10a

John Tavares: 24g/32a

Joe Thornton: 7g/26a

Jimmy Vesey: 15g/28a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 3g/12a

TJ Brodie: 13g/30a

Travis Dermott: 3g/9a

Justin Holl: 4g/12a

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen: 13g/26a

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin: 5g/15a

Morgan Rielly: 18g/29a

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin: 2g/6a


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 25W

Jack Campbell: 12W

Aaron Dell: 0W

Michael Hutchinson: 0W

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Montreal, Leafs, Edmonton, Vancouver


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, St. Louis, Vegas, Arizona


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Dallas, Carolina, Tampa, Nashville


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, NY Rangers

Most surprising team: Ottawa

Most disappointing team: Pittsburg

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Mackinnon

Norris winner:

Calder winner: Stutzle (sp)

Vezina winner:

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Leafs

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Dallas

East Division winner: Philadelphia

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs vs Colorado. Leafs with the win

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Matthews

The Leafs will finish:
1st
The main reason for this is:
Weaker division
The biggest surprise will be:
Joe Thornton
The biggest disappointment will be:
Tavares
The unsung hero will be:
Muzzin
The goat will be:
Matthews
People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:
Joe Thornton
If I was GM, I would have:
Signed Perry
If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:6g 6a

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:11g 16a

Alexander Kerfoot:
9 g 12a
Mitchell Marner:
18g 42a
Auston Matthews:
35g 40 a
Ilya Mikheyev:
10g 10 a
William Nylander:
25g 30a
Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:
5g 5a
Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:
13g 10a
Jason Spezza:
8g 15a
John Tavares:
15g 30a
Joe Thornton:
5g 28a
Jimmy Vesey:
12g 15a

The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:
3 g 10a
TJ Brodie:
7g 22a
Travis Dermott:
5g 10a
Justin Holl:
2g 10a
Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:
8g 12a
Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:
5g 15a
Morgan Rielly:
10g 30a
Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:

3 g 6a
The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):
Toronto

Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:


Playoffs:

North Division winner:

West Division winner:

Central Division winner:

East Division winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
- Atomic Wedgie

The Leafs will finish: 5th in North Division

The main reason for this is: It is almost like Playoff hockey, and they always choke.

The biggest surprise will be: Travis Dermott

The biggest disappointment will be: Auston Matthews

The unsung hero will be: Wayne Simmonds

The goat will be: John tavares

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): John Tavares - Losing seems to follow him from team to team

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): William Nylander - Seemed to be one of the most effective in last years playoffs.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: made the team older and slower

If I was GM, I would have: Not signed John Tavares

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: They are choke artists


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman: 10g/10a

Alexander Kerfoot:7g/14a

Mitchell Marner:20g/35a

Auston Matthews:30g/20a

Ilya Mikheyev:

William Nylander:20g/20a

Nic Petan:5g/5a

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:3g/4a

Jason Spezza:2g/5a

John Tavares:20g/30a

Joe Thornton:0g/10a

Jimmy Vesey:6g/9a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:

TJ Brodie:1g/9a

Travis Dermott:1g/5a

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:2g/12a

Morgan Rielly:10g/15a

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:15w/20L

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:9w/12L

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Winnipeg, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, Vegas, St.louis, Arizona


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):Tampa, Dallas, Carolina, Columbus


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Boston, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Washington

Most surprising team: Ottawa

Most disappointing team: Toronto

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Pettersson

Norris winner: Hedman

Calder winner: Laferriere

Vezina winner: Hellebuyck

Richard winner: Ovechkin


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Vancouver

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Philadelphia

Stanley Cup winner: Colorado

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Nathan Mackinnon

The Leafs will finish: 3rd in the division

The main reason for this is: Their defense still isn't reliable enough and the lack of depth in the bottom 6 will catch up to them. They are also old and ugly.

The biggest surprise will be: Rielly. Guy will have a monster season.

The biggest disappointment will be: Joe Thornton

The unsung hero will be: Kerfoot

The goat will be: Wayne Simmonds

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Wayne Simmonds. He's slow, he takes dumb penalties and won't help the team at all.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Mikheyev. Guy should be used in a more offensive role since he can dig up the puck along the boards for his more talented players. He can also finish just fine.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Sign T.J. Brodie, despite him being slightly overpaid.

If I was GM, I would have: Tried to sign Rielly to an extension before he explodes offensively.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: They are not as good as you think they are, but they can easily win the division or advance in the playoffs with all the talent up front if the defense holds up.


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

I won't do them, I don't care.

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Edmonton, Montreal, Toronto, Calgary


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, Vegas, St-Louis, Minnesota


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Tampa, Carolina, Columbus, Nashville


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Washington, Philadelphia, Boston, Buffalo

Most surprising team: Montreal baby WOO!

Most disappointing team: Islanders

Art Ross winner: Nathan Mackinnon

Hart winner: Nathan Mackinnon

Norris winner: Rasmus Dahlin

Calder winner: Zegras

Vezina winner: Carey Price

Richard winner: Alex Ovechkin


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Montreal

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Philadelphia

Stanley Cup winner: Colorado

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Mackinnon

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the Canadian division

The main reason for this is: I'm a Leafs fan

The biggest surprise will be: Sandin

The biggest disappointment will be: Steve Simmons Coverage of the team

The unsung hero will be: Muzz

The goat will be: Well the GOAT is gone - Kerfoot

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Vessy - just not that great.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Thorton - He still has some left, true hall of famer.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Not getting AP.

If I was GM, I would have: Punched Marner's Dad in the face.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman: 13g/26a

Alexander Kerfoot: 9g/14a

Mitchell Marner: 18g/46a

Auston Matthews: 28g/39a

Ilya Mikheyev: 12g/16a

William Nylander:23g/30a

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson: 11g/15a

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds: 12g/16a

Jason Spezza: 6g/10a

John Tavares: 27g/32a

Joe Thornton: 7g/34a

Jimmy Vesey: 8g/12a


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 3g/16a

TJ Brodie: 11g/36a

Travis Dermott: 5g/19a

Justin Holl: 4g/12a

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen: 7g/21a

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin: 8g/22a

Morgan Rielly: 15g/26a

Calle Rosen: 2g/6a

Rasmus Sandin: 6g/16a


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 29W

Jack Campbell: 7W

Aaron Dell: 0W

Michael Hutchinson: 0W

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Leafs, Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, St. Louis, Vegas, Arizona


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Tampa, Dallas, Carolina, , Nashville


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Pitt, Boston, Phily and Washington

Most surprising team: Yotes

Most disappointing team: Caps

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Mackinnon

Norris winner: Cale Makar

Calder winner: Robertson

Vezina winner: Price

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Leafs

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Pitt

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs vs Colorado. Leafs with the win

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Matthews

Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish: 1st

The main reason for this is: won the most games

The biggest surprise will be: that we won the most games

The biggest disappointment will be: Sandin

The unsung hero will be: Big Joe

The goat will be: Simmonds

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Holl, good stats when with Muzzin only

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Engvall

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: kept Andersen so he has someone to blame

If I was GM, I would have: traded for Hamilton 2-3 years ago

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:

Alexander Kerfoot:

Mitchell Marner:

Auston Matthews:

Ilya Mikheyev:

William Nylander:

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:

Jason Spezza:

John Tavares:

Joe Thornton:

Jimmy Vesey:


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:

TJ Brodie:

Travis Dermott:

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:

Morgan Rielly:

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order):

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:


Playoffs:

North Division winner:

West Division winner:

Central Division winner:

East Division winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
- Atomic Wedgie

The Leafs will finish: 2nd in Division.

The main reason for this is: mediocre defense and goaltending, best offense in NHL.

The biggest surprise will be: Wayne Simmonds playing really well.

The biggest disappointment will be: defense not better than last seasons.

The unsung hero will be: Hyman.

The goat will be: Spezza. Should have stopped after last season - won't be very good and will lose his spot on the team mid-season.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Nylander (floater -- adds no value to this Leafs team since Matthews, Marner, Tavares already there).

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Dermott (injury free, he'll be earn more playing time than Lehtonen, Sandin -- solid on top4).

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: add Thornton and Simmonds.

If I was GM, I would have: traded Nylander and Andersen.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:
same old issues will come up yet again this season (Andersen imploding in playoffs, Nylander disappearing in playoffs, no good d-partner for Rielly to play freely)


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: AHL

Joey Anderson: AHL

Alex Barabanov: 3rd/4th line - will be ok but nothing special probably. next year he'll not play for Leafs, since Robertson ends up taking his spot on the roster.

Travis Boyd: -

Justin Brazeau: -

Adam Brooks: -

Rourke Chartier: -

Pierre Engvall: solid, let's hope Dubas keeps him and not gives him the Gauthier-Timashov-Trevor Moore treatment.

Tyler Gaudet: -

Zach Hyman: one of the most important players on this team. Will earn himself a 4y @3.5mln AAV extension.

Alexander Kerfoot: let's hope he'll get more PP time. might be better on the wing than on C.

Mitchell Marner: great season - points leader in regular season for Leafs, and in the whole league - winning the Art Ross trophy.

Auston Matthews: goals won't be an issue - will lead the league in goals. let's hope he'll start playing to his potential in the d-zone as well (he should focus more on becoming Datsyuk 2.0 than a Roenick 2.0 type of player...)

Ilya Mikheyev: solid, great on PK, and he'll get solid point totals.

William Nylander: 4th in scoring on this team in regular season, but the floating issues remain. just has a very mediocre hockey sense - in particular shown by his lack of on-ice awareness on defensive positioning.

Nic Petan: AHL

Nicholas Robertson: by the end of regular season he has earned a full-time spot on this roster. bright future for this guy - let's hope fans and media have some patience with him.

Scott Sabourin: who?

Wayne Simmonds: fan favorite by mid-February.

Jason Spezza: will not be a pretty season for Spezza. Unfortunately, just one season to many to his impressive career.

John Tavares: solid season by Tavares, 3rd in points on this team after Marner and Matthews.

Joe Thornton: great move by Dubas to add him. let's hope the Marner-Thornton passing on the PP will be as good as expected.

Jimmy Vesey: meh. will play most games, but was not a priority to add him. Would rather see Engvall taking his roster spot. Still, will get 10-12 goals during the regular season.


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: not good. very very slow.

TJ Brodie: not as good as expected, and might slip out of top 4 with Rielly-Muzzin-Dermott and eventually even Liljegren outplaying him..

Travis Dermott: will have a good season, and will end up 2nd best d-man this season after Rielly.

Justin Holl: ok for bottom d-pairing, nothing more.

Mac Hollowell: AHL

Teemu Kivihalme: AHL

Mikko Lehtonen: 6th/7th D. not as good as many think. will battle for a spot with Bogosian.

Timothy Liljegren: will earn his spot as a top4 d-man end of the season.

Martin Marincin: Marty is back -- and actually better option than Bogosian and Lehtonen, in particular because of his PK abilities.

Jake Muzzin: he actually survived that injury?? good for him. solid on the 2nd pair.

Morgan Rielly: very good season for Toronto's best d-man, unfortunately still not a good d-partner provided to him.

Calle Rosen: AHL

Rasmus Sandin: will end up on bottom pair with Holl end of season.


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: .912 in regular season. implodes again in playoffs. last season for him with Leafs.

Jack Campbell: ok backup -- nothing special.

Aaron Dell: AHL

Michael Hutchinson: AHL

Woll: the brick Woll will end up playing 5 games in regular season after a super start with the Marlies. Full-time backup with Leafs in NHL next season.



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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Vancouver - Toronto - Calgary - Edmonton


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Vegas - Colorado - St Louis - Anaheim


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Dallas - Tampa - Nashville - Florida


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Flyers - Rangers - Islanders - Caps

Most surprising team: Florida

Most disappointing team: Boston

Art Ross winner: Mitch Marner

Hart winner: Elias Pettersson

Norris winner: Heiskanen

Calder winner: Nils Hoglander

Vezina winner: John Gibson

Richard winner: Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Toronto

West Division winner: Vegas

Central Division winner: Dallas

East Division winner: Flyers

Stanley Cup winner: Dallas

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Heiskanen

[quote=Atomic Wedgie]Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish: 4th

The main reason for this is: the season will be more play-off style matches

The biggest surprise will be: Thorton staying on the 1st line all season

The biggest disappointment will be: Marner scoring less then Mathews

The unsung hero will be: Kerfoot

The goat will be: The Coaching staff

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Simmonds is just too slow for today's game.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):Bogosian can do enough in all areas to be a solid 4/5. Cup win boosted confidence too.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Let UFA's go to sign Brodie

If I was GM, I would have: Pulled a Chayka and bailed before it starts to get real ugly under the North Division spotlight.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs:

They won't win a play-off round even in the North Division.
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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino:

Joey Anderson:

Alex Barabanov:

Travis Boyd:

Justin Brazeau:

Adam Brooks:

Rourke Chartier:

Pierre Engvall:

Tyler Gaudet:

Zach Hyman:

Alexander Kerfoot:

Mitchell Marner:

Auston Matthews:

Ilya Mikheyev:

William Nylander:

Nic Petan:

Nicholas Robertson:

Scott Sabourin:

Wayne Simmonds:

Jason Spezza:

John Tavares:

Joe Thornton:

Jimmy Vesey:


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian:

TJ Brodie:

Travis Dermott:

Justin Holl:

Mac Hollowell:

Teemu Kivihalme:

Mikko Lehtonen:

Timothy Liljegren:

Martin Marincin:

Jake Muzzin:

Morgan Rielly:

Calle Rosen:

Rasmus Sandin:


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen:

Jack Campbell:

Aaron Dell:

Michael Hutchinson:

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Oilers, Canucks, Jets, Leafs.


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Vegas, Avs, Blues, Sharks,


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Bolts, Canes, Stars, Preds


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Caps, Bruins, Isles, Pens

Most surprising team: Canucks

Most disappointing team: Leafs

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Aho

Norris winner: Hedman

Calder winner: Lafraniere

Vezina winner: Hellebuyk

Richard winner: Draisaitl


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Canucks

West Division winner: Vegas

Central Division winner: Bolts

East Division winner: Isles

Stanley Cup winner: Bolts

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Demko

Greetings, Hockeybuzzers!

It's that time again - to exercise your democratic right as a member of Leafs Nation to express your thoughts, which will then be declared fake and challenged in the supreme court of hockey opinion. MTMLGA!

Welcome to the Official 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Cut and paste the template (below) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

AT puck-drop time on opening night I'll get a ref to lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like Zaitsev's contract haunts the Senators.

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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The Leafs will finish: 2nd in Division

The main reason for this is: Strong offense and a resurgence from Anders7n

The biggest surprise will be: Joe Thornton

The biggest disappointment will be: Nick Robertson

The unsung hero will be: Jake Muzzin

The goat will be: Travis Dermott

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Jack Campbell (35 great games in his career at 27 years old does not make him the greatest backup on earth)

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Jimmy Vesey (Hype destroyed him and he isn’t good, but he’s a fine 3rd liner)

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Sign Brodie

If I was GM, I would have: Gone back in time and sign Matthews and Marner for slightly less

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: They weren’t as good as the hype, but they are a really good team


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: Who?

Joey Anderson: 9g 4a 11p

Alex Barabanov: AHL

Travis Boyd: AHL

Justin Brazeau: ECHL

Adam Brooks: AHL

Rourke Chartier: AHL

Pierre Engvall: 7g 5a 12p

Tyler Gaudet: AHL

Zach Hyman: 21g 19a 40p

Alexander Kerfoot: 13g 17a 30p

Mitchell Marner: 19g 43a 62p

Auston Matthews: 35g 29a 64p

Ilya Mikheyev: 11g 14a 25p

William Nylander: 25g 26a 51p

Nic Petan: Lol

Nicholas Robertson: 2g 2a 4p (ends up in the AHL/OHL depending on the status of the leagues)

Scott Sabourin: *checks back of AHL jersey*

Wayne Simmonds: 11g 7a 18p

Jason Spezza: 8g 13a 21p

John Tavares: 29g 28a 57p

Joe Thornton: 2g 29a 31p

Jimmy Vesey: 13g 7a 20p


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 0g 6a 6p

TJ Brodie: 4g 14a 18p

Travis Dermott: 1g 4a 5p

Justin Holl: 3g 7a 10p

Mac Hollowell: AHL

Teemu Kivihalme: Back to Finland

Mikko Lehtonen: Really don’t know on this one 5g 15a 20p? Optimistic?

Timothy Liljegren: AHL

Martin Marincin: 500g 500a 1000love Marincin is love, Marincin is life

Jake Muzzin: 7g 15a 22p

Morgan Rielly: 8g 37a 45p

Calle Rosen: AL

Rasmus Sandin: AHL


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: 42gp .921sv%

Jack Campbell: 14gp .909sv%

Aaron Dell: AHL

Michael Hutchinson: AHL

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Flames/Leafs/Canucks/Habs


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Avalanche/Blues/Knights/Ducks


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order): Lightning/Hurricanes/Stars/Jackets


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Flyers/Caps/Bruins/Rangers

Most surprising team: Flyers

Most disappointing team: Sabres

Art Ross winner: MacKinnon

Hart winner: MacKinnon

Norris winner: Miro Heiskanen

Calder winner: Kirill Kaprizov

Vezina winner: Andrei Vasilevsky

Richard winner: Ovechkin


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Leafs (why not?)

West Division winner: Blues

Central Division winner: Lightning (Kooch will be loose)

East Division winner: Caps

Stanley Cup winner: Lightning

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Vasilevsky

The Leafs will finish: First Overall

The main reason for this is: The Shanaplan

The biggest surprise will be: Jack Campbell

The biggest disappointment will be: Nick Robertson

The unsung hero will be: Wayne Simmonds

The goat will be: Travis Dermott

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Do people think anyone is good?

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Freddy, because it's not his fault

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Adding a black guy

If I was GM, I would have: Extended Nylander

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2020-21 Leafs: They would win the Cup


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PLAYER PREDICTIONS

The Forwards:

Kenny Agostino: Who?

Joey Anderson: Huh

Alex Barabanov: Are these XBOX generated players?

Travis Boyd: Buh

Justin Brazeau: Meh

Adam Brooks: Ba

Rourke Chartier: Shnreh

Pierre Engvall: Giraffe

Tyler Gaudet: Wtf

Zach Hyman: 20 G 20

Alexander Kerfoot: stuff

Mitchell Marner: 15 50

Auston Matthews: 40 20

Ilya Mikheyev: 10 10

William Nylander: 23 33

Nic Petan: the man

Nicholas Robertson: I don't know

Scott Sabourin: who are these people

Wayne Simmonds: 12 18

Jason Spezza: 10 10

John Tavares: 25 25

Joe Thornton: 6 40

Jimmy Vesey: 8 20


The Defence:

Zach Bogosian: 5 20

TJ Brodie: 5 20

Travis Dermott: 0 0

Justin Holl: these ones are boring

Mac Hollowell: boring

Teemu Kivihalme: who

Mikko Lehtonen: who

Timothy Liljegren: bust

Martin Marincin: he lives still

Jake Muzzin: 7 23

Morgan Rielly: 10 43

Calle Rosen: ba

Rasmus Sandin: ba


The Goalies:

Frederik Andersen: yes

Jack Campbell: yes

Aaron Dell: no

Michael Hutchinson: no

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The League:

Top 4 teams, North Division (in order): Leafs, Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton


Top 4 teams, West Division (in order): Colorado, Vegas, St. Louis, Minny


Top 4 teams, Central Division (in order):Tampa, Dallas, Columbus, Florida


Top 4 teams, East Division (in order): Philly, Washington, New York, Boston

Most surprising team: Leafs

Most disappointing team: Boston

Art Ross winner: Matthews

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Rielly

Calder winner: some guy

Vezina winner: Nelson Mandela

Richard winner: lol Matthews


Playoffs:

North Division winner: Leafs

West Division winner: Colorado

Central Division winner: Tampa

East Division winner: Flyers

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Nylander