Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Poulin, Goalie Prospects, TIFH and More

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Poulin, Goalie Prospects, TIFH and More
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Poulin, Goalie Prospects, TIFH and More
- bmeltzer

In your opinion what do you see them resigning Couturier for when the time comes they can resign him? I think that is this summer or is it January 2022 they can sign an extension?

In your opinion what do you see them resigning Couturier for when the time comes they can resign him? I think that is this summer or is it January 2022 they can sign an extension?
- login

Not Bill, but I see it generally working out that Coots and Giroux switch cap hits.....Not exact amounts of course but the general area.

In your opinion what do you see them resigning Couturier for when the time comes they can resign him? I think that is this summer or is it January 2022 they can sign an extension?
- login

I think that only time will tell due to covid. I am not sure how long the league can operate with little or no attendance revenue. I think at some point, teams will fold, the cap will collapse, and no one will have a plan on what to do.

Not Bill, but I see it generally working out that Coots and Giroux switch cap hits.....Not exact amounts of course but the general area.
- MBFlyerfan

hopefully they go year to year with Giroux. There is no doubt he stays here just a matter of how much and how long.

I think that only time will tell due to covid. I am not sure how long the league can operate with little or no attendance revenue. I think at some point, teams will fold, the cap will collapse, and no one will have a plan on what to do.
- corduroy

Very possible as with the NHL nothing is shocking.

hopefully they go year to year with Giroux. There is no doubt he stays here just a matter of how much and how long.
- login

I seriously doubt Giroux or the team will do a year to year thing. My guess would be 3 or 4 years.

I seriously doubt Giroux or the team will do a year to year thing. My guess would be 3 or 4 years.
- MBFlyerfan

Then that is a mistake on the teams part imo. At most go 2 years.

Then that is a mistake on the teams part imo. At most go 2 years.
- login

Depends on the cap hit.

Depends on the cap hit.
- MBFlyerfan

you said he switches with Couterier so thats what 4.5 per?

you said he switches with Couterier so thats what 4.5 per?
- login

I was talking general ballpark....

I was talking general ballpark....
- MBFlyerfan

lets say 4 years 4.5 per, that is ok for you?

That was a tremendous podcast with Dave Poulin. I loved hearing every bit of it.

I think that only time will tell due to covid. I am not sure how long the league can operate with little or no attendance revenue. I think at some point, teams will fold, the cap will collapse, and no one will have a plan on what to do.
- corduroy

Based on the vaccine info that is streaming in nowadays, looks like everything will be largely back to normal by fall 2021.

Since the league has had two extensive lockouts in the past 15 years of its own doing, it seems highly unlikely anything will fold based on this one.

lets say 4 years 4.5 per, that is ok for you?
- login

Absolutely. I was thinking closer to 5.5 or 6.

Not Bill, but I see it generally working out that Coots and Giroux switch cap hits.....Not exact amounts of course but the general area.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not totally confident that G will end his career in Philly. I'd like to see it happen, but cap/roster realities could make it hard. It just takes one other team to offer him greater security and maybe a better chance to win and all bets would be off.

Not Bill, but I see it generally working out that Coots and Giroux switch cap hits.....Not exact amounts of course but the general area.
- MBFlyerfan

Imagine Coots will graduate to G's cap hit. Carter Hart will have graduated to Coots' cap hit+. Doesn't leave much $ left for Giroux, sadly.

I'm not totally confident that G will end his career in Philly. I'd like to see it happen, but cap/roster realities could make it hard. It just takes one other team to offer him greater security and maybe a better chance to win and all bets would be off.



Imagine Coots will graduate to G's cap hit. Carter Hart will have graduated to Coots' cap hit+. Doesn't leave much $ left for Giroux, sadly.
- Tomahawk

Sadly you may be right unless he takes a hometown discount.

I seriously doubt Giroux or the team will do a year to year thing. My guess would be 3 or 4 years.
- MBFlyerfan

Agree. I see a three year deal. Feel a one year would be a slap in the face. I know it’s a business but still.

Absolutely. I was thinking closer to 5.5 or 6.
- MBFlyerfan

Yuck

I'm not totally confident that G will end his career in Philly. I'd like to see it happen, but cap/roster realities could make it hard. It just takes one other team to offer him greater security and maybe a better chance to win and all bets would be off.



Imagine Coots will graduate to G's cap hit. Carter Hart will have graduated to Coots' cap hit+. Doesn't leave much $ left for Giroux, sadly.
- Tomahawk

I do not think Giroux wants to leave; if he did he would have been moved by now.

He will be 34 years old. Over 1100 games played at that point. Be a mistake imo to give him a long term deal of 4 years for any significant cap hit. Many believe he didn’t look good this year. At some point the cord needs to be cut. Regardless who the player is and what he has done

Hard pass on G getting a 3 year deal by the time this one is up.

Love the "Today in Flyers History" updates on games throughout the decades Bill, Way to go finding new things to post year after year to keep us entertained, Loving the idea and the reads each day.

I'm not totally confident that G will end his career in Philly. I'd like to see it happen, but cap/roster realities could make it hard. It just takes one other team to offer him greater security and maybe a better chance to win and all bets would be off.

Didn’t he hesitate when asked the question this past year. And referred to where his kid went to school. Almost insinuating ending his career in Montreal. Being a Quebec kid I can understand the reasoning.

Imagine Coots will graduate to G's cap hit. Carter Hart will have graduated to Coots' cap hit+. Doesn't leave much $ left for Giroux, sadly.
- Tomahawk

I'm not totally confident that G will end his career in Philly. I'd like to see it happen, but cap/roster realities could make it hard. It just takes one other team to offer him greater security and maybe a better chance to win and all bets would be off.



Imagine Coots will graduate to G's cap hit. Carter Hart will have graduated to Coots' cap hit+. Doesn't leave much $ left for Giroux, sadly.
- Tomahawk

I think they lock hart up longer term. Say 6 x6.