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Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Oct 23 @ 7:46 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Islanders likely need to delay RFA extensions until a contract is moved
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Oct 23 @ 8:12 PM ET
Call Stevie! Let's make a deal! Boychuck, retain $1M and Bellows as a sweetener for futures.......Let's do it!
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
Call Stevie! Let's make a deal! Boychuck, retain $1M and Bellows as a sweetener for futures.......Let's do it!
- HenryHockey

Sweeteners? Which turd contract do we take? Tyler Johnson or Johnny Boychuk?

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
Call Stevie! Let's make a deal! Boychuck, retain $1M and Bellows as a sweetener for futures.......Let's do it!
- HenryHockey

We’re not giving up Boychuck we’ll have plenty of cap space after the Rangers offersheet Barzal but we don’t really have cap issues. The Rangers will play Barzal on the wing and this will give trotz the opportunity to move Johnston up into his rightful spot in the top 6. Then we’ll trade Ladd and a 2025 third to the Rangers for futures and all will be right in the world.

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 24 @ 7:46 AM ET
We’re not giving up Boychuck we’ll have plenty of cap space after the Rangers offersheet Barzal but we don’t really have cap issues. The Rangers will play Barzal on the wing and this will give trotz the opportunity to move Johnston up into his rightful spot in the top 6. Then we’ll trade Ladd and a 2025 third to the Rangers for futures and all will be right in the world.
- Cptmjl



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:29 AM ET

- jimbro83

Just a summary of what this thread has become.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 24 @ 11:00 AM ET
We’re not giving up Boychuck we’ll have plenty of cap space after the Rangers offersheet Barzal but we don’t really have cap issues. The Rangers will play Barzal on the wing and this will give trotz the opportunity to move Johnston up into his rightful spot in the top 6. Then we’ll trade Ladd and a 2025 third to the Rangers for futures and all will be right in the world.
- Cptmjl



There's a lot of conspiracy theories in this spiel. haha. Not to worry. Your two best players are unsigned, and you have the GM of the year. I am sure Barzal is eager to ink an extension when looking at the term and age of all these contracts.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
What I find interesting with all this speculation about the Islanders, Barzal, Pulock, Lou, etc... Is that everyone still believes that this organization is run azz backwards.

If the Islanders go more than a 8 mill over 5 years for Barzal right now it would be a mistake. Yes Barzy is the No.1 Center, yes he has a high skill set but he young and makes a ton of mistakes. I would even go 8.5 over 3 years.

What people fail to realize is that this team has become a place that players want to go to. That players that are here want to stay here. The building, practice facility, and direction of this team are no longer a question.

Lou needs sometime to work things out. Personally I think he is waiting on arbitration. Looking to see what the rates or Barzy and Pulsy would be. Maybe he signs them to a one year deal. It give him more time to make moves and evaluate the team without having to drop assets.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
And for those who think the Rags are sitting in the drivers seat with the ability to make Barzy an offer. Just remember the door swings both ways.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
There's a lot of conspiracy theories in this spiel. haha. Not to worry. Your two best players are unsigned, and you have the GM of the year. I am sure Barzal is eager to ink an extension when looking at the term and age of all these contracts.
- bikeguy99

One thing I’m pretty certain of is Barzal being signed and him wanting to sign.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
One thing I’m pretty certain of is Barzal being signed and him wanting to sign.
- Cptmjl



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 24 @ 4:18 PM ET

- nyisles7

Met him for a beer the other night kid won’t shut up. (frank)ing blabber mouth.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
We’re not giving up Boychuck we’ll have plenty of cap space after the Rangers offersheet Barzal but we don’t really have cap issues. The Rangers will play Barzal on the wing and this will give trotz the opportunity to move Johnston up into his rightful spot in the top 6. Then we’ll trade Ladd and a 2025 third to the Rangers for futures and all will be right in the world.
- Cptmjl


Boychuck??


Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
Just a summary of what this thread has become.
- Cptmjl


BS. How can it be a summary when you are the ONLY person who has said we should keep Boychuk.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Met him for a beer the other night kid won’t shut up. (frank)ing blabber mouth.
- Cptmjl


Translation: You sat on your couch, got drunk and started hallucinating.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 24 @ 7:27 PM ET
Met him for a beer the other night kid won’t shut up. (frank)ing blabber mouth.
- Cptmjl


Awesome
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 24 @ 7:52 PM ET
Translation: You sat on your couch, got drunk and started hallucinating.
- Puckin_Island



Kings fan since72
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Hermosa Beach, CA
Joined: 10.30.2006

Oct 25 @ 11:45 AM ET
Done: Boychuk, Ladd, Hickey, Komorov..... everyone knows them 4 players are a done in the NHL, waste of time and doe. Why they didn't buy them out the last couple years or try and trade, a big fuk up by the GM. $17m in cap space on $hity players that could be used for Barzal, Pulock and some other UFA addition. Suck it up GM.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 25 @ 11:56 AM ET
The legend of Lou Lamo is dead.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...-BB1a1y4Z?ocid=uxbndlbing
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
It is funny to listen to the Lou haters here. This guy has done nothing right?

1. He did not bring the best possible available coach to the Island...Nope.
2. He has not worked on trying to build up the prospect pool...Nope.
3. He did not make this team relevant in the two years he has been here...Nope.
4. The team he assembled and the coach that he selected have not produced the best
playoff finishes since 1993...Thats 1993...Nope.
5. He has not created a respectful winning culture...Nope.

6. He is trying to move contracts that Snow had issued in Ladd. Hickey and
Boychuck...All of which we knew were going to be problems way before Lou was a
thought. but its Lou fault. Yup.
7. Leo was on him...Not sure he had much of a choice. Yup.
8. Clutterbuck, CC these are Lou's fault too??? Yup.

You cannot inherit crap and expect to get rid of the bad taste in five minutes. Add the Pandemic... Wait that's Lou's fault too...

Lastly, those who thought too much for JGP and Greene are also delusional. They have done nothing but excel here. But thats Lou's fault...

Heck we might as well add Ben's crappy blog's to Lou's fault lately.


JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
I really hope they don't re-sign Martin.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Oct 25 @ 1:47 PM ET
It is funny to listen to the Lou haters here. This guy has done nothing right?

1. He did not bring the best possible available coach to the Island...Nope.
2. He has not worked on trying to build up the prospect pool...Nope.
3. He did not make this team relevant in the two years he has been here...Nope.
4. The team he assembled and the coach that he selected have not produced the best
playoff finishes since 1993...Thats 1993...Nope.
5. He has not created a respectful winning culture...Nope.

6. He is trying to move contracts that Snow had issued in Ladd. Hickey and
Boychuck...All of which we knew were going to be problems way before Lou was a
thought. but its Lou fault. Yup.
7. Leo was on him...Not sure he had much of a choice. Yup.
8. Clutterbuck, CC these are Lou's fault too??? Yup.

You cannot inherit crap and expect to get rid of the bad taste in five minutes. Add the Pandemic... Wait that's Lou's fault too...

Lastly, those who thought too much for JGP and Greene are also delusional. They have done nothing but excel here. But thats Lou's fault...

Heck we might as well add Ben's crappy blog's to Lou's fault lately.



- Nfdbulldawg


Must be the same people that have rated our President..........
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
I really hope they don't re-sign Martin.
- JimmyP

I’m with you on that. I would hate to see 3-4 million used on players along those lines when we could’ve applied that to Toews. I get it we need to fill the bottom six but just plug Johnston in there and hope Wahlstrom can slot in on the third line. Always liked Martin but it’s time to move on IMO.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Oct 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
It is funny to listen to the Lou haters here. This guy has done nothing right?

1. He did not bring the best possible available coach to the Island...Nope.
2. He has not worked on trying to build up the prospect pool...Nope.
3. He did not make this team relevant in the two years he has been here...Nope.
4. The team he assembled and the coach that he selected have not produced the best
playoff finishes since 1993...Thats 1993...Nope.
5. He has not created a respectful winning culture...Nope.

6. He is trying to move contracts that Snow had issued in Ladd. Hickey and
Boychuck...All of which we knew were going to be problems way before Lou was a
thought. but its Lou fault. Yup.
7. Leo was on him...Not sure he had much of a choice. Yup.
8. Clutterbuck, CC these are Lou's fault too??? Yup.

You cannot inherit crap and expect to get rid of the bad taste in five minutes. Add the Pandemic... Wait that's Lou's fault too...

Lastly, those who thought too much for JGP and Greene are also delusional. They have done nothing but excel here. But thats Lou's fault...

Heck we might as well add Ben's crappy blog's to Lou's fault lately.



- Nfdbulldawg

I agree with most of your post, but in the interest of accuracy........ Hickey was re-signed to his current contract by Lou, not Snow.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
I agree with most of your post, but in the interest of accuracy........ Hickey was re-signed to his current contract by Lou, not Snow.
- JohnScammo


Really cannot argue with the success of Lou these two years with the Isles. The Leo and Hickey signings were dumb though.
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