Sean Maloughney: Kraken Expansion Draft - Calgary Flames

Also Todd and I spoke and I allowed him to have Milan Lucic choose to waive his NMC because of a number of reports which expect that to be the case.
- Sean Maloughney

Please share links to these, i.e., the number of reports.

It has nothing to do with Lucic being taken, but more to do with CGY not being able to protect one of Dube, Mangiapane, or Lindholm.

Are there examples of plugs waiving their NMC from the Vegas expansion that might lend it more credibility? Will you be so generous in your assumptions to the protection list of other teams?

Hope it gets better for the Kraken cuz so far that team is far from impressive

Also, wasn't RedC21 supposed to be picking the expansion list for CGY?

There were several interviews that Lucic talked about being miserable last season and contemplated retiring around Christmas time. In those interviews he spoke about feeling rejuvenated and happy to be back to his normal self. He also spoke about owing a lot to the coach and to the Flames and said he would do what the team needed him to do around the expansion draft. He didn't come out and say he would waive, but he said he is a team guy always wants to do what is best for his team and teammates.

Sean Maloughney: Kraken Expansion Draft - Calgary Flames
- Sean Maloughney

Have to see how Tanev looks this year. Gio was looking old last year, need a rebound from him or he might be on the list, or does he have a NMC?

There were several interviews that Lucic talked about being miserable last season and contemplated retiring around Christmas time. In those interviews he spoke about feeling rejuvenated and happy to be back to his normal self. He also spoke about owing a lot to the coach and to the Flames and said he would do what the team needed him to do around the expansion draft. He didn't come out and say he would waive, but he said he is a team guy always wants to do what is best for his team and teammates.
- ShallowLarynx

That's all fair but I don't see how the Lucic situation is particularly different from other plugs around the league with NMCs.

Hope it gets better for the Kraken cuz so far that team is far from impressive
- DonCherries

Rutherford will find a way to leave Crosby exposed, while signing Darcy Tucker and finally allowing Malkin to be The Man, and MacLellan will do the same with Ovie. e4
The Kraken will be fine!

The options for the Kraken will be Backlund or Tanev. Maybe Rittich if he has a good year.

If Bennett looks good at all this year, there's no way they protect Backlund over Bennett. The last 2-3 years of Backlund's deal are going to be rough. Doesn't make much sense to protect him.

It's also not a given that Bennett wouldn't be protected over Mangiapane or Dube, even if they had to choose today.

The options for the Kraken will be Backlund or Tanev. Maybe Rittich if he has a good year.

If Bennett looks good at all this year, there's no way they protect Backlund over Bennett. The last 2-3 years of Backlund's deal are going to be rough. Doesn't make much sense to protect him.
- Hunkulese

yeah, I agree, I dont think there's a chance they'd protect Backlund with that contract, and he'll be 32 by the time of the expansion draft

That's all fair but I don't see how the Lucic situation is particularly different from other plugs around the league with NMCs.
- RonPielep

I think just because he has openly said he would do what was in the best interests of the team and other plugs haven't.

Have to see how Tanev looks this year. Gio was looking old last year, need a rebound from him or he might be on the list, or does he have a NMC?
- Tocchet2292

Gio has a Modified No-Trade Clause. He can submit a list of 11 teams he can't be traded to. He does not have to be protected in the Expansion Draft.

Gio is kind of the controversial piece in Calgary's plans. Seems senseless to protect him...he will only have 1 year remaining, is clearly on a decline in play (though still very useful and productive), but many fans feel the Flames owe it to him to protect him since he is the captain and been a warrior on and off the ice for the Flames.

I think this is where the business side kicks in...the Flames need to leave him unprotected in order to keep another young D protected...depending on how Kyl and Tanev pan out.

The options for the Kraken will be Backlund or Tanev. Maybe Rittich if he has a good year.

If Bennett looks good at all this year, there's no way they protect Backlund over Bennett. The last 2-3 years of Backlund's deal are going to be rough. Doesn't make much sense to protect him.

It's also not a given that Bennett wouldn't be protected over Mangiapane or Dube, even if they had to choose today.
- Hunkulese

@RonPielep it appears Todd also submitted a write up for the draft for which I don’t blame Sean for opting to use.

Though in mine I share a line of thinking with Hunk here. Under the pretence I had to protect Looch I opted to expose backlund for the reasons hunk stated. If I could’ve waived him I don’t think I could tell you off the top of my head who I would have chosen.

It would be best to drop backlund’s contract before it becomes an anchor but until then he’s managing to live up to it and is the better player. Also we could probably move him for something before the draft if it came to it.

Bennett is a beast in the playoffs but in the 82 games getting there he has yet to solidify himself as a 3C. Bennett’s upcoming season will largely determine where we go with this.

That’s the pro-backlund side as far as pro Bennett goes if he can prove himself as a 3C he would no doubt be my choice. Lindholm is capable of playing center and I recall a report last year stating that the team still wants Dube to transition to center at some point, not to mention Emilio petterson and Zary as potential long term in house options. In the now and future we have a backlund replacement in the top six and if all goes well with Bennett he can hold down the 3C spot for much cheaper and much longer than backlund will be capable of.

Also markstrom will be our goalie. He has an NMC

Also, wasn't RedC21 supposed to be picking the expansion list for CGY?
- RonPielep

Yes, it was a mistake on my part.

Yes, it was a mistake on my part.
- Sean Maloughney

No worries man, I assume that with Henrique already in the fold Bennett would still probably be your selection anyway.

But for anyone that’s interested here is what I had:

F
Milan Lucic - NMC
Matthew Tkachuck
Elias Lindholm
Johnny Gaudreau
Sean Monahan
Andrew Mangiapane
Dillon Dube

To start this off I fully expect lucic to waive his NMC when the time comes to allow us to protect Backlund or Bennett but as per Sean’s rules this is what I got.

Tkachuck, Lindholm, Gaudreau and Monahan at this point are the core and not going anywhere for free.

Mangiapane solidified himself as a top six player last year and while he could regress I’m going to bet that he’s even better playing a full year there.

Dube is young and may end up developing into a top six forward.

I exposed backlund even though he is a great shutdown C due to the fact he’ll be 32 at the time of expansion with 3 more years remaining on a contract that pays him just over 5 million a year. For a player that doesn’t produce a large amount of offence and the likelihood that he will hit a decline before the contract is up, this is the wise choice.

Bennett’s awesome in the playoffs but just doesn’t bring enough in the 82 games getting there to protect him over the other guys.

D
Rasmus Andersson
Mark Giordano
Noah Hanifin

Andersson is another piece of the core that will not be exposed.

Giordano is the captain, the longest serving member of the team and the rest of his resume speaks for itself. I don’t think Seattle would take him due to his age but unless he declines into a complete liability it wouldn’t be a good look on the organization to expose him.

Hanifin became an easier choice to protect after this off-season’s signing of tanev. I don’t think he’s ever going to be better than what he is now but at only 24 years of age I don’t see the team exposing him.

Tanev - The stats appear to show tanev may already be in decline. Personally I’m optimistic that the numbers don’t show everything but typically tanev’s style of play does not age well and him being on the wrong side of 30 makes exposing him an easy choice.

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Markstrom-NMC

Yeah it doesn't hurt Looch any to waive, he won't be picked. He would just come off looking like a wiener to his GM if he didn't waive,, no reason for him not to. Besides he kinda owes it to Calgary for getting him out of Edmonton..

Just like Neal won't be picked from the Oil, when left unprotected... the Kraken are not going to want those kinds of contracts unless they come with a 1st round pick...

There were several interviews that Lucic talked about being miserable last season and contemplated retiring around Christmas time. In those interviews he spoke about feeling rejuvenated and happy to be back to his normal self. He also spoke about owing a lot to the coach and to the Flames and said he would do what the team needed him to do around the expansion draft. He didn't come out and say he would waive, but he said he is a team guy always wants to do what is best for his team and teammates.
- ShallowLarynx

Can he waive it just for the expansion and still keep it going forward?
If not - maybe he does not want to lose that as he two more years left after expansion draft.

If Lucic won't waive, they'll just buy him out. They might just buy him out anyway after this year.

If Lucic won't waive, they'll just buy him out. They might just buy him out anyway after this year.
- Hunkulese

Seems a little cost prohibitive, no?

https://www.capfriendly.c...ut-calculator/milan-lucic

Seems a little cost prohibitive, no?

https://www.capfriendly.c...ut-calculator/milan-lucic
- Wildschwein

It almost makes sense if they do it next year. Save a million real bucks and close to 2 million in cap space for the first year.

It depends on if he's a useful player again this year.

Yeah it doesn't hurt Looch any to waive, he won't be picked. He would just come off looking like a wiener to his GM if he didn't waive,, no reason for him not to. Besides he kinda owes it to Calgary for getting him out of Edmonton..

Just like Neal won't be picked from the Oil, when left unprotected... the Kraken are not going to want those kinds of contracts unless they come with a 1st round pick...
- Nomad2112

Lucic seems like the perfect candidate to pay Seattle to take (I know thats not part of Sean's plan here).

No worries man, I assume that with Henrique already in the fold Bennett would still probably be your selection anyway.

But for anyone that’s interested here is what I had:

F
Milan Lucic - NMC
Matthew Tkachuck
Elias Lindholm
Johnny Gaudreau
Sean Monahan
Andrew Mangiapane
Dillon Dube

To start this off I fully expect lucic to waive his NMC when the time comes to allow us to protect Backlund or Bennett but as per Sean’s rules this is what I got.

Tkachuck, Lindholm, Gaudreau and Monahan at this point are the core and not going anywhere for free.

Mangiapane solidified himself as a top six player last year and while he could regress I’m going to bet that he’s even better playing a full year there.

Dube is young and may end up developing into a top six forward.

I exposed backlund even though he is a great shutdown C due to the fact he’ll be 32 at the time of expansion with 3 more years remaining on a contract that pays him just over 5 million a year. For a player that doesn’t produce a large amount of offence and the likelihood that he will hit a decline before the contract is up, this is the wise choice.

Bennett’s awesome in the playoffs but just doesn’t bring enough in the 82 games getting there to protect him over the other guys.

D
Rasmus Andersson
Mark Giordano
Noah Hanifin

Andersson is another piece of the core that will not be exposed.

Giordano is the captain, the longest serving member of the team and the rest of his resume speaks for itself. I don’t think Seattle would take him due to his age but unless he declines into a complete liability it wouldn’t be a good look on the organization to expose him.

Hanifin became an easier choice to protect after this off-season’s signing of tanev. I don’t think he’s ever going to be better than what he is now but at only 24 years of age I don’t see the team exposing him.

Tanev - The stats appear to show tanev may already be in decline. Personally I’m optimistic that the numbers don’t show everything but typically tanev’s style of play does not age well and him being on the wrong side of 30 makes exposing him an easy choice.

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Markstrom-NMC
- RedC21

They don't need Lucic to waive. His NMC expires on June 1st and becomes a Limited NTC.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/milan-lucic

They don't need Lucic to waive. His NMC expires on June 1st and becomes a Limited NTC.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/milan-lucic
- ScaleyMcSlither

His NMC doesn't expire. You can have a NTC and a NMC. A NMC in non expansion draft years is there so he can't be sent to the minors.