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Ben Shelley
Los Angeles Kings
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Sep 28 @ 4:36 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Which contracts in the Central Division could the Kings take for assets?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Sep 28 @ 5:37 PM ET
Obviously... all focus should be on getting an insane fortune for Jack Johnson from the Penguins. JR is clearly going senile... you may be able to get JJ with some money retained, a 2nd or 3rd and Rust, who you could flip if you did not want him for the near future.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
Obviously... all focus should be on getting an insane fortune for Jack Johnson from the Penguins. JR is clearly going senile... you may be able to get JJ with some money retained, a 2nd or 3rd and Rust, who you could flip if you did not want him for the near future.
- Guile


Too much term remaining. The only way the Kings should consider taking Johnson is if there's a 1st coming back, and Pittsburgh has already traded away their 1sts for the next two drafts.

I could see the Kings taking Johnson for a 2nd if Pittsburgh retains 50% of his salary. Aside from that, Johnson to LA isn't gonna happen.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 9:00 PM ET
Seeing multiple reports that the Kings are one of the teams interested in Laine?
Is anyone in hear reading this as well?
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 28 @ 9:03 PM ET
Seeing multiple reports that the Kings are one of the teams interested in Laine?
Is anyone in hear reading this as well?

- Ross77


Nope.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:22 PM ET
Seeing multiple reports that the Kings are one of the teams interested in Laine?
Is anyone in hear reading this as well?

- Ross77


The Jets are drafting Anton Lundell. They aren't getting the #2.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 28 @ 11:40 PM ET
The Jets are drafting Anton Lundell. They aren't getting the #2.
- Only_A_Ladd


If the HockeyBuzz mock draft is to be believed, Lundell will be off the board by the time it's Winnipeg's turn.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 29 @ 12:15 AM ET
If the HockeyBuzz mock draft is to be believed, Lundell will be off the board by the time it's Winnipeg's turn.
- tkecanuck341


That's right. #6 to the Quacks
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 29 @ 12:44 AM ET
Can add Tyler Bozak to this list, basically same as everything said for Steen except only partial NTC.
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Sep 29 @ 4:49 AM ET
If Steen is moved, it's likely there's a backroom deal where he gets bought out and signs a min contract with STL. A STL 2nd wont be enough to get a team to agree to this but maybe a 2021 first would get it done.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 29 @ 8:35 AM ET
If Steen is moved, it's likely there's a backroom deal where he gets bought out and signs a min contract with STL. A STL 2nd wont be enough to get a team to agree to this but maybe a 2021 first would get it done.
- Udogs


So in this scenario, Steen moves to the Kings for a 2021 first. They Kings buy him out. Steen then re-signs with the Blues.

https://www.capfriendly.c...alculator/alexander-steen

Have your lawyers prepare the paperwork.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
So in this scenario, Steen moves to the Kings for a 2021 first. They Kings buy him out. Steen then re-signs with the Blues.

https://www.capfriendly.c...alculator/alexander-steen

Have your lawyers prepare the paperwork.

- Only_A_Ladd


Why would LA buy out Steen and extend his cap hit for a year? They don't need the space this season. I imagine they'd just eat his contract and give him a spot in the lineup.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 29 @ 3:07 PM ET
Why would LA buy out Steen and extend his cap hit for a year? They don't need the space this season. I imagine they'd just eat his contract and give him a spot in the lineup.
- tkecanuck341


The scenario presented shows LAK buying out Steen and then STL extending him, not LAK extending him.

The cap hit for LAK would be 3.41mm in 20/21 and 1.16mm in 21/22.

Buyout cost would be 1.16mm each of those years.

So total cap hit would exceed salary in 20/21, and the cash out for the '21 first rounder would be 2.33mm total.

The roster spot could then be freed up.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 29 @ 6:19 PM ET
The scenario presented shows LAK buying out Steen and then STL extending him, not LAK extending him.

The cap hit for LAK would be 3.41mm in 20/21 and 1.16mm in 21/22.

Buyout cost would be 1.16mm each of those years.

So total cap hit would exceed salary in 20/21, and the cash out for the '21 first rounder would be 2.33mm total.

The roster spot could then be freed up.

- Only_A_Ladd


Roster spot could be freed up easily enough by sending him to Ontario. However, the Kings actually have a need for an extra LW next season, so I would imagine they'd keep him and play him on a line with Amadio and Carter.

There's no way they can make the buyout/re-sign a part of the agreement. The league would hit both teams with circumvention penalties. There's no practical reason why the Kings would acquire Steen to buy him out. They have the cap space to eat his contract and could fit him on the roster.