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Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
Sean Maloughney: In No Particular Order: Ryan, Wennberg, DeBrusk
General Mokus
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 09.08.2020

Sep 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don't think we've bought out Wennberg yet...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Wennberg hasn't been bought out yet.
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don't think we've bought out Wennberg yet...
- General Mokus

Oops, got ahead of myself there. The blog has been updated.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sep 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
Sean Maloughney: In No Particular Order: Ryan, Wennberg, DeBrusk
- freelancer

I think there is currently hesitation for buyouts given the season might be canceled ....
cnatch
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 07.02.2018

Sep 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
Why is Koivu signing in Edm? Did Holland hire PT Barnum to come up with a pitch for him? There has to be a more realistic 3C option out there.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
Why is Koivu signing in Edm? Did Holland hire PT Barnum to come up with a pitch for him? There has to be a more realistic 3C option out there.
- cnatch

The same reason he'd sign on just about any team that'd sign him? A clear role on a team that needs him. Not saying I think it's likely but he's hardly afraid of winters given he's from Finland and has played his whole career in Minny.

Otherwise, J Larsson does the trick while probably being an easier sell.
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Sep 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'd swap out Bjork for Studnicka personally.
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Sep 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
As you said, Boston would likely need to be "blown away" in an offer for Debrusk, and I don't feel Klefbom gets it done. Maybe if he didn't have such a history of injuries this would be closer. (?) Besides, as nice as it would be to add Debrusk or a winger of his ilk, this leaves a tremendous hole for Edmonton to fill . . . or (dread) more minutes to a guy like Russell and/or asking too much from Nurse and Jones, methinks.
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Sep 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
Over value Alex Chaisson much!
He makes 2.15 MILLION.
Half his 24 pts (13) were on a power play driven by the best player in the game.
There will be many players available at half his cap hit that can do the same thing or more.
Sean your rose colored glasses are in a league of their own man!
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
Would you trade Oscar Klefbom and Alex Chiasson in exchange for Jake Debrusk and Anders Bjork?

Klefbom is a solid player and I do believe he remains the Oilers best all-round defenceman and he is on a very team friendly deal for the next three seasons at 4.167 million per. If Edmonton trades Klefbom they immediately need to find a veteran replacement for him.

- Sean

I'd try to get something more added on in that deal unless we know Debrusk would sign for a reasonable hit long term. Either a 2021 pick or some near-ready prospect (Lauzon, maybe?).
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Over value Alex Chaisson much!
He makes 2.15 MILLION.
Half his 24 pts (13) were on a power play driven by the best player in the game.
There will be many players available at half his cap hit that can do the same thing or more.
Sean your rose colored glasses are in a league of their own man!

- Balboa

This just in: LW with a career high 43 points is suddenly worth so much that the team sending a #3 LD on a nice 4.16mil contract is crazy to ask for something more in return
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
As you said, Boston would likely need to be "blown away" in an offer for Debrusk, and I don't feel Klefbom gets it done. Maybe if he didn't have such a history of injuries this would be closer. (?) Besides, as nice as it would be to add Debrusk or a winger of his ilk, this leaves a tremendous hole for Edmonton to fill . . . or (dread) more minutes to a guy like Russell and/or asking too much from Nurse and Jones, methinks.
- Quillanrocks

~45 points and ~20 goal wingers with their own injury history really shouldn't command as much as people seem to think Debrusk should.
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Sep 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
This just in: LW with a career high 43 points is suddenly worth so much that the team sending a #3 LD on a nice 4.16mil contract is crazy to ask for something more in return
- MaximumBone

Well Debrusk and Bjork is already something more in return. No one wants a 4th line winger making 2.15 million in this cap crunch unless you are sending a pick with him in the deal.
This blog values the oilers players like an over zealous minor hockey parent does a spoiled child.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
Well Debrusk and Bjork is already something more in return. No one wants a 4th line winger making 2.15 million in this cap crunch unless you are sending a pick with him in the deal.
This blog values the oilers players like an over zealous minor hockey parent does a spoiled child.

- Balboa

And no one's giving up a #3 Dman on a very nice contract in this cap crunch without getting some real value back. And no, a ~20g, ~45p LW doesn't constitute enough value. Since the Oil can't afford both Debrusk's new contract AND Bjork's 1.6mil while only giving up Klefbom's 4.1mil, there's gotta be more cap going back to Boston.

Given your input here, you're clearly just as quick to overvalue players as you claim we are.
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Sep 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
And no one's giving up a #3 Dman on a very nice contract in this cap crunch without getting some real value back. And no, a ~20g, ~45p LW doesn't constitute enough value. Since the Oil can't afford both Debrusk's new contract AND Bjork's 1.6mil while only giving up Klefbom's 4.1mil, there's gotta be more cap going back to Boston.

Given your input here, you're clearly just as quick to overvalue players as you claim we are.

- MaximumBone

Well I never proposed the trade. My point was that implying any sort of value on Chaisson in the flat cap era is ridiculous and frankly an Oiler spin.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
Well I never proposed the trade. My point was that implying any sort of value on Chaisson in the flat cap era is ridiculous and frankly an Oiler spin.
- Balboa

At what point did Sean or anyone else suggest he had anything but negative value? The point of his inclusion is he's a negative value that, along with Bjork's inclusion, helps balance the difference between Klefbom and Debrusk.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Sep 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
What is the latest on Puljujarvi? Is there any hope that he might be back with the Oilers or are they still trying to trade him? I'm sure glad in that 2016 draft Chucky wasn't drafted by the Oilers at 4 and Canucks at 5. It seems both those Finns won't be any impact player in the NHL.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 28 @ 3:25 PM ET
If you trade Klefbom, may I introduce you to a Ghost? He may actually do good in a high tempo speed game.

Puljujärvi?
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Sep 28 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'd swap out Bjork for Studnicka personally.
- DarthProbert

You're funny!
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
If you trade Klefbom, may I introduce you to a Ghost? He may actually do good in a high tempo speed game.

Puljujärvi?

- Glak18

No. Ghost is bad and his contract is bad.
Allforhim12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.26.2013

Sep 28 @ 6:02 PM ET
Koivu looked horrible last year when he played . Fourth liner at best now it seems
Allforhim12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.26.2013

Sep 28 @ 6:04 PM ET
If you trade Klefbom, may I introduce you to a Ghost? He may actually do good in a high tempo speed game.

Puljujärvi?

- Glak18

Yeah .... no more drugs for you
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Sep 28 @ 8:17 PM ET
So what are y’all gonna talk about on here If there’s no NHL season ? You guys should get other hobbies, ya know,maybe, Just try em out. Tying Flies, woodworking, leather tanning. A lot of crafts are are gonna become lost arts if you guys don’t try your hand at some of these things.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 3:00 PM ET
So what are y’all gonna talk about on here If there’s no NHL season ? You guys should get other hobbies, ya know,maybe, Just try em out. Tying Flies, woodworking, leather tanning. A lot of crafts are are gonna become lost arts if you guys don’t try your hand at some of these things.
- HonkyTonkMan

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