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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:12 PM ET
Michael Stuart: Should Alfredsson Get the Hockey Hall of Fame Call Tomorrow?
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Jun 23 @ 10:14 PM ET

NO
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:19 PM ET
Hall of Very Good. Damn good. Just not quite HOF
dstewart
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 09.16.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:29 PM ET
Game changer. The kind of player you would love to have on your team if the opportunity presented. Hated him when he played against my favorite team. He's a Hall of Famer.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
For me with any sport ... If you have to make a case for the player.. then no.
It should be automatic when you say the players name.

Mays... Trout... DiMaggio...

Dionne...Hasek...Dryden...you get the picture.

Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
For me with any sport ... If you have to make a case for the player.. then no.
It should be automatic when you say the players name.

Mays... Trout... DiMaggio...

Dionne...Hasek...Dryden...you get the picture.


- dozerD10


But that's not the way the HHOF is run. If that was the standard, sure. It's not.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
no, its not the hall of very good.
but, if he does get in he should go in as a red wing
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 23 @ 11:01 PM ET
Michael Stuart: Should Alfredsson Get the Hockey Hall of Fame Call Tomorrow?
- Michael_Stuart

How is Mogilny not in the HHOF?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
How is Mogilny not in the HHOF?
- gergeswillems


Good question. For me yes.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:07 PM ET
For me with any sport ... If you have to make a case for the player.. then no.
It should be automatic when you say the players name.

Mays... Trout... DiMaggio...

Dionne...Hasek...Dryden...you get the picture.


- dozerD10


As a follow-up, I do generally agree with the idea that Halls of Fame should be more selective.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:08 PM ET
But that's not the way the HHOF is run. If that was the standard, sure. It's not.
- Michael_Stuart



By the way ... Love the Mariners emblem...

Jr... HOF!!!
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:27 PM ET
How is Mogilny not in the HHOF?
- gergeswillems


1000 pts and a PPG player who played a majority of his games in the dead puck era? In without question.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:35 PM ET
How is Mogilny not in the HHOF?
- gergeswillems

Weak class. I’d have him in before Alf
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:37 PM ET
Weak class. I’d have him in before Alf
- Nighthawk


Or even Pierre Turgeon.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 23 @ 11:54 PM ET
How is Mogilny not in the HHOF?
- gergeswillems


Right?! It's insane that he's not already in.

After Iggy, I feel he's the next most obvious choice in this years selection.
ponglenis
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
Right?! It's insane that he's not already in.

After Iggy, I feel he's the next most obvious choice in this years selection.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Why is iggy a lock but alf isn't?
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 12:57 AM ET
Why is iggy a lock but alf isn't?
- ponglenis



625 goals
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 24 @ 1:23 AM ET
Why is iggy a lock but alf isn't?
- ponglenis


This isn't actually a serious question, is it?
Tweaterben
Minnesota Wild
Location: PROFESSIONAL CHOKE ARTISTS, MN
Joined: 10.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 4:34 AM ET
I think so, he was good
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:11 AM ET
If Mats Sundin is a 1st ballot inductee, then Alfredsson should be there also.

their PPG is very close (sundin right at ppg, alfredsson JUST below), Alfi has individual awards, sundin has none, alfredsson has brought his team to conf finals multiple times and cup finals once, sundin never did, alfredsson was the more productive players for Sweden internationally. their playoff production was almost identical, etc.

i'm not saying Alfredsson is better than sundin, but they're close enough that if one is a 1st ballot guy, the other should absolutely be there too.

I use Sundn as a comparison because their per game stats are close, they both played in the same era, they both captained teams in Ontario, they both played internationally for the same country at the same time, etc
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:16 AM ET
Alfredsson has very good, maybe great, numbers. Had a lot of success internationally (96 World Cup Triple OT vs. Canada was the best game I ever saw live). And while I cant really explain, he just lacks "it." I'm not sure what "it" is, but there's just something about him that seems lacking.

If he gets in, I wouldn't be upset, but I think that he's one step below HHOF worthy. Just my 2 cents.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:16 AM ET
For me with any sport ... If you have to make a case for the player.. then no.
It should be automatic when you say the players name.

Mays... Trout... DiMaggio...

Dionne...Hasek...Dryden...you get the picture.


- dozerD10


if that's the case than 1/3 of the players in the HHOF shouldn't be there
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:29 AM ET
if that's the case than 1/3 of the players in the HHOF shouldn't be there
- sensarmy_11


Yes. I think this should be the case. Not every player in the HHOF has to be Orr or Gretzky, but some more selectivity would have been nice. But no turning back at this point.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jun 24 @ 7:38 AM ET
100% agree that if Mats Sundin is in the Hall of Fame, then Daniel Alfredsson should be as well. Sundin was a great player and I know a lot of people feel 500G is a critical threshold, but in addition to >1200GP and >1150pts, Alfredsson has more NHL hardware, was a longer-serving captain, and actually got to play in the Stanley Cup Finals... where in spite of not winning, he was a legitimate Conn Smythe candidate.

There's no way that one is a first-ballot HOF player, and the other doesn't get in at all.





farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jun 24 @ 7:45 AM ET
**No.**

If Osgood ever gets in (why????) then Alfie probably will and then they'll need to rename it. Something like "Popular players who were also pretty good" hall-of-fame
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