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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jun 8 @ 3:43 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames prospect Dustin Wolf named CHL Goaltender of the Year
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 8 @ 3:46 PM ET
Hopefully he can do it at the next level...cautiously optimistic
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

Jun 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
If hockey ever comes back
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 8 @ 5:51 PM ET
Let’s just hope we improve our goalie development system before he turns pro. Too many promising goalies ruined by our own staff in the past decade
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 9 @ 8:58 AM ET
I don't know how you can say he'll certainly be the starter when Spencer Knight is still out there as the chosen one.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
Wondering what the hell they can do to revamp the development system for goalies.

Something has been (frank)ed for a long time. It would save them a lot of money to change it.
LittleBroDougie
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.03.2017

Jun 9 @ 4:58 PM ET
Anyone else surprised that Gio was Calgary's nomination for Masterton?

I'd have given it to his partner who came back from a collapse in practice and somehow played far better than he did before.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 10 @ 10:25 AM ET
Anyone else surprised that Gio was Calgary's nomination for Masterton?

I'd have given it to his partner who came back from a collapse in practice and somehow played far better than he did before.

- LittleBroDougie


Wonder if that means Brodie might not be coming back. Not sure I would nominate someone who is not going to be on my roster come next season.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jun 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
Can we please get Eichel out of Buffalo
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Can we please get Eichel out of Buffalo
- Squilliam-



That would take a left and a right nut. Not sure its worth it. Or is it?

What would you offer up?
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jun 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
That would take a left and a right nut. Not sure its worth it. Or is it?

What would you offer up?

- DuranDuran


Gaudreau, backlund and hanafin, plus a 1st?

Can you imagine eichel with tkachuk and lindholm or mang... Damn
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jun 10 @ 9:30 PM ET
Gaudreau, backlund and hanafin, plus a 1st?

Can you imagine eichel with tkachuk and lindholm or mang... Damn

- Squilliam-


Try Tkachuk, Valimaki and a 1rst and you might get Botterill to start listening.



DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
Try Tkachuk, Valimaki and a 1rst and you might get Botterill to start listening.
- redseerpf



Gotta think JG would have to go that way. But same with Monahan. They would need a center.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jun 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
Try Tkachuk, Valimaki and a 1rst and you might get Botterill to start listening.
- redseerpf



Yeah they would need a centre men going back the other way.

I dont think it would happen but imagine being able to land a player like Eichel. I would give up a huge package trying to get him.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 11 @ 12:31 PM ET
Yeah they would need a centre men going back the other way.

I dont think it would happen but imagine being able to land a player like Eichel. I would give up a huge package trying to get him.

- Squilliam-


JG going the Buffalo might make some sense. But the Flames would not be getting Eichel.

I know I am crazy but I think if the Flames can get a good Haul for him they should.

Tre has done some good drafting. The Flames need to try and get a number 1C that can play with Tkachuk. Lindholm would be an excellent 2C.

Trade to make it happen. Retool.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 11 @ 6:11 PM ET
JG going the Buffalo might make some sense. But the Flames would not be getting Eichel.

I know I am crazy but I think if the Flames can get a good Haul for him they should.

Tre has done some good drafting. The Flames need to try and get a number 1C that can play with Tkachuk. Lindholm would be an excellent 2C.

Trade to make it happen. Retool.

- DuranDuran


If Tre was feeling very NHL 20 and wanted a big shakeup in the room without taking a major step back (ie fantasy land)

- Mony, Valimaki, and a pick to Buffalo for Eichel

- Gaudreau traded at draft to the Devils for #5 overall - land either Drysdale, or one of Stutzle, Rossi or Byfield were they to fall for some reason

- Use the cap space to sign Hall

Tkachuk Eichel Lindholm
Hall Backlund Mangiapane
Lucic Ryan Dube
Pelletier Bennett and #5 overall guy if a fwd. If not, fire a plug in there...

Crazy how good of a year Pelletier had in the Q this year (and last). Might end being a player if this holds true:

Dec 2019 – As the calendar turns from November to December, Jakob Pelletier can celebrate a WJC invite for Team Canada’s camp and that he currently sits third in QMJHL scoring with 48 points in 25 games. This is simply a continuation of his efforts from 2018-19 as he just continues to push the pace and show athleticism and vision. He’s batted pucks out of the air at high speed for goals, saucer passed more than can be counted, and is a legit threat on the PP with his quick passing and one-timer abilities. At this point in time, Pelletier can be thought of in the same development realm as guys like Travis Konecny of Philadelphia. He’s smart, quick. versatile, and great in all areas of the ice. He should be in Calgary’s top-nine in two to three years. – Joel Henderson







redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jun 11 @ 6:35 PM ET
If Tre was feeling very NHL 20 and wanted a big shakeup in the room without taking a major step back (ie fantasy land)

- Mony, Valimaki, and a pick to Buffalo for Eichel

- Gaudreau traded at draft to the Devils for #5 overall - land either Drysdale, or one of Stutzle, Rossi or Byfield were they to fall for some reason

- Use the cap space to sign Hall

Tkachuk Eichel Lindholm
Hall Backlund Mangiapane
Lucic Ryan Dube
Pelletier Bennett and #5 overall guy if a fwd. If not, fire a plug in there...

Crazy how good of a year Pelletier had in the Q this year (and last). Might end being a player if this holds true:

- rmull905


And why exactly would Buffalo trade 6 years of a top 5 center in the NHL for 3 years of a very average one? Oh yeah, "Valimaki and a pick". Nah..........
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 11 @ 8:26 PM ET
And why exactly would Buffalo trade 6 years of a top 5 center in the NHL for 3 years of a very average one? Oh yeah, "Valimaki and a pick". Nah..........
- redseerpf


A) because you didn't read the NHL20 reference.
B) because Eichels gonna demand his way out publicly if poop doesn't turn around

Monahan is not an average centre - that's just (frank)ing stupid
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jun 11 @ 11:30 PM ET
A) because you didn't read the NHL20 reference.
B) because Eichels gonna demand his way out publicly if poop doesn't turn around

Monahan is not an average centre - that's just (frank)ing stupid

- rmull905


Haven't gotten the nhl20 reference, you're right my bad.

Monahan is not an average center if you take into account the 250 centermen there might be in the nhl, but he sure is a very average 1rst line center.

Even if Eichel asks publicly for a trade, at least a dozen teams will be able to offer a trade with a building piece way more interesting than Monahan, whether it's potential related or contract status related.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 12 @ 9:37 AM ET
Valimaki has no trade value at all right now. It's way too risky to give up anything of note for a guy who's missed massive chunks of his developmental years and has played a grand total of 24 games of mediocre hockey.

Andersson is the only defenceman with value in any kind of blockbuster deal.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:42 PM ET
Haven't gotten the nhl20 reference, you're right my bad.

Monahan is not an average center if you take into account the 250 centermen there might be in the nhl, but he sure is a very average 1rst line center.

Even if Eichel asks publicly for a trade, at least a dozen teams will be able to offer a trade with a building piece way more interesting than Monahan, whether it's potential related or contract status related.

- redseerpf


Quite frankly, go back on any major trade in the last decade and find me another deal where the return is more than a #1 centre, a highly regarded NHL ready defenceman and a pick for a major player. Is there an argument that an Eichel has not been on the block? Maybe. I think Subban (at the time), Karlsson, Johansen (at the time), Hall would have something to say about that.

We aren't talking McDavid here, as much as Eichel wants to compare himself with McJesus. It's a guy who's picking up 15 more points per season than Mony, has had an arguably not great attitude since before he was drafted, is actively bemoaning his situation in Buffalo and is probably giving them 1 more year until poop hits the fan.

Could other teams outbid Calgary? Sure. Will they? Maybe. If you're Ottawa or someone in truly desperate need of a #1 centre, it's possible. The guys they'd have to surrender are not likely names to put on the block given where their rebuild is at though.

rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:45 PM ET
Valimaki has no trade value at all right now. It's way too risky to give up anything of note for a guy who's missed massive chunks of his developmental years and has played a grand total of 24 games of mediocre hockey.

Andersson is the only defenceman with value in any kind of blockbuster deal.

- Hunkulese


This is just dumb. Hunk - go soak your head man.

Andersson has more value than Vali - as the centrepiece of a trade, I absolutely agree. But in a deal with Buffalo, they are NOT getting a #1 centre and a top 2 dman for Eichel. Ever. Unless the #1 centre is Colin White and the dman is Brannstrom or Chabot. Because in that case, the dman is the prize, not the centre.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 13 @ 9:01 PM ET
Valimaki has no trade value at all right now. It's way too risky to give up anything of note for a guy who's missed massive chunks of his developmental years and has played a grand total of 24 games of mediocre hockey.

Andersson is the only defenceman with value in any kind of blockbuster deal.

- Hunkulese


I’ll be curious to see how valimaki does next year. In his nhl games he showed a fair amount of promise, I would start him in the AHL next year and if kylington struggles on the 3rd pair and vali’s doing good I’d call him up
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
This is just dumb. Hunk - go soak your head man.

Andersson has more value than Vali - as the centrepiece of a trade, I absolutely agree. But in a deal with Buffalo, they are NOT getting a #1 centre and a top 2 dman for Eichel. Ever. Unless the #1 centre is Colin White and the dman is Brannstrom or Chabot. Because in that case, the dman is the prize, not the centre.

- rmull905


It's never going to happen, but the Flames would do Monahan and Andersson for Eichel in a heartbeat. Franchise centres are impossible to get unless you're really lucky.

It's not even quantifiable how much of an upgrade he'd be over Monahan, and it's a whole lot easier to get second pairing defencemen than it is to get number one centres.

Andersson has more trade value today, but Valimaki still has a much higher ceiling
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:26 AM ET
It's never going to happen, but the Flames would do Monahan and Andersson for Eichel in a heartbeat. Franchise centres are impossible to get unless you're really lucky.

It's not even quantifiable how much of an upgrade he'd be over Monahan, and it's a whole lot easier to get second pairing defencemen than it is to get number one centres.

Andersson has more trade value today, but Valimaki still has a much higher ceiling

- Hunkulese

Buffalo will never trade Eichel for the reason you just stated above unless he requests a trade. But Buffalo would overpay to get a kid like Gaudreau to ride Eichels flank for the next 2 years. I stand by Cozens, 2020 1st & 2021 1st for Gaudreau. Add a few smaller pieces if need be. I would rather have Gaudreau over Hall due to age & durability but we know it would take a huge overpay to keep the kid here in two years. This would be great asset management, Hall is still a high end top 6 LW we can replace Gaudreau with & those 3 high end pieces will be invaluable to the Flames in going forward & and maybe allow Treliving to trade a young piece for a decent RW if need be. I like Magpie with Lindholm & Chucky & we need a decent RW to play with Monahan & Hall.
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