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Ben Shelley
San Jose Sharks
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Jun 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Sharks should have dealt Joe Thornton at the trade deadline
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jun 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
The Sharks should have fired Doug Wilson the day he signed EK to that monstrous deal
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:35 PM ET
The Sharks should have fired Doug Wilson the day he signed EK to that monstrous deal
- stay@home-guy

Ryman
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jun 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
The Sharks should have fired Doug Wilson the day he signed EK to that monstrous deal
- stay@home-guy


There are a few deals that they should have beaten him with a wiffleball bat for. EK deal is still making my head spin. I have a feeling he will be inquired often just like Havlat.

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
Just out of curiosity, how was the signing of Thornton received when it happened? From the outside, I didn't understand why they did it unless there weren't any options in the minors that were thought to be strong enough to play in the NHL.

Is he really good enough to play, or is it more of a symbolic thing?
Nelson19777
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Trail, BC
Joined: 03.05.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
i have a feeling the answer to this question is the same reason I can't seem to sell my 1996 Hyundai Pony for $10,000.

I'm guessing the asking price (trade) was too high, and team weren't willing to pay it. Why would the other team trade away a pick for an old, expensive, 3rd line center, in his decline. You'd then have to insert Thornton into the lineup and potentially take playoff experience away from a young player with future potential (never mind the much smaller salary).

There may not have been any suitors in the first place.



deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 3:37 PM ET
i have a feeling the answer to this question is the same reason I can't seem to sell my 1996 Hyundai Pony for $10,000.

I'm guessing the asking price (trade) was too high, and team weren't willing to pay it. Why would the other team trade away a pick for an old, expensive, 3rd line center, in his decline. You'd then have to insert Thornton into the lineup and potentially take playoff experience away from a young player with future potential (never mind the much smaller salary).

There may not have been any suitors in the first place.

- Nelson19777



you then lower your price.
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Jun 5 @ 3:39 PM ET
i have a feeling the answer to this question is the same reason I can't seem to sell my 1996 Hyundai Pony for $10,000.

I'm guessing the asking price (trade) was too high, and team weren't willing to pay it. Why would the other team trade away a pick for an old, expensive, 3rd line center, in his decline. You'd then have to insert Thornton into the lineup and potentially take playoff experience away from a young player with future potential (never mind the much smaller salary).

There may not have been any suitors in the first place.

- Nelson19777


It was reported that there were multiple teams interested, plus considering the Penguins gave up a third-round pick for Marleau, I'd imagine the Sharks certainly could've fetched a decent pick for Thornton. But yes, I do imagine they were asking for too much in return, like you said.

As for the playoff experience part though, a team who's truly looking to contend probably wouldn't have player development for their young forwards as a priority over winning.
hockeygm
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: Reno, NV
Joined: 05.12.2008

Jun 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Hi Ben;

I suspect that the major issue wasn't price but that the teams that were offering were not Cup Contenders in Jumbo's eyes and he had no desire to go to those teams...
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Jun 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
Hi Ben;

I suspect that the major issue wasn't price but that the teams that were offering were not Cup Contenders in Jumbo's eyes and he had no desire to go to those teams...

- hockeygm


That's also a possibility for sure, though I took it from his quotes that it seemed like he'd rather at least get a chance than miss the playoffs altogether. But yeah, that could've been a factor.
Barrykerr1
Joined: 08.06.2014

Jun 5 @ 6:48 PM ET
At the time of the Erik Karlsson trade most of the hockey world thought Wilson won that trade. Especially here in Ottawa. Karlsson was the best defenseman I have ever seen. There was no choice for the Sharks, they had to sign him to a long term contract. Just imagine the outrage if Wilson let him walk.
DutchCanSaveUs
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
DW sucks lol
DutchCanSaveUs
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jun 5 @ 9:26 PM ET
At the time of the Erik Karlsson trade most of the hockey world thought Wilson won that trade. Especially here in Ottawa. Karlsson was the best defenseman I have ever seen. There was no choice for the Sharks, they had to sign him to a long term contract. Just imagine the outrage if Wilson let him walk.
- Barrykerr1

What outrage? A terrible GM letting a 32 y/o injury prone D man to 8 years??

Go away. DW is horrible.
ssullivan28
San Jose Sharks
Location: Antioch, CA
Joined: 10.01.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:09 PM ET
What outrage? A terrible GM letting a 32 y/o injury prone D man to 8 years??

Go away. DW is horrible.

- DutchCanSaveUs


It was a risky signing. When Karlsson is on though - damn he can control a game.

That said - the signing made me cringe... not because of dollar, term, injury history (which I think isn't quite as bad as people make it out to be), etc... It's the pile of large unmovable contracts that Karlsson's contract was thrown on the top of (Vlassic, Burns, Kane, Jones).

Vlassic and Jones' contracts are both looking especially bad right now. Vlassic's game has gone to hell and is there a worse starting goalie in the NHL?