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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 3 @ 5:34 PM ET
James Tanner: Signing Hall is a Bad Idea but Coyotes Have No Choice
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Jun 3 @ 5:37 PM ET
Hall will be signing in Calgary Tanner. I hope you are doing well and keeping safe. Any netflix recommendations?

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 3 @ 5:41 PM ET
James Tanner: Signing Hall is a Bad Idea but Coyotes Have No Choice
- James_Tanner

You said Hall is 29, injury prone and will age poorly. Why do the Coyotes HAVE to sign him? Plus, Hall is a UFA. He doesn't HAVE to sign with them. Are you saying the Coyotes are a "Win now" team? You just listed Hayton and Soderberg as two good young players who will likely be on the team next season. What's the rush? Is Chayka fighting to keep his job?
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
How will Arizona afford Hall? They'll likely have to overpay to keep him in Arizona, and they don't really have the cap space to fit $9.5M+.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
Hall will be signing in Calgary Tanner. I hope you are doing well and keeping safe. Any netflix recommendations?
- FlamesFan1230



Thanks I hope you are doing well also. If you haven't watched Mind Hunter, I think it's the best thing on Netflix. Also GLOW is really good. Currently I am enjoying Community.


James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 3 @ 6:08 PM ET
You said Hall is 29, injury prone and will age poorly. Why do the Coyotes HAVE to sign him? Plus, Hall is a UFA. He doesn't HAVE to sign with them. Are you saying the Coyotes are a "Win now" team? You just listed Hayton and Soderberg as two good young players who will likely be on the team next season. What's the rush? Is Chayka fighting to keep his job?
- gergeswillems


Teams go decades without finding a Kuemper. They Coyotes also have Kessel, Hjalmarsson and OEL, and a bunch of early-to-mid twenties question marks. They've got to go for it now because they've put themselves in this position, and unless they do yet another rebuild, they've got no choice but to see it through.

Hall is elite and will continue to be for a few years. With a Hall/ Kuemper combo, they could easily just fluke into a cup, maybe even be hyper competitive for a couple seasons.

Add in market considerations and length of time since last competitive version of the franchise, Chayka doesn't have a choice here IMO.

If the Coyotes were the Leafs, I would hate the way Chayka built his team. But they are a small market team that has to take risks to win, and I think he's spit the difference rather creatively, given that he wasn't able to get that elite player through the draft.

As for Hayton and Soderberg they are going to be good, not great players (I mean you never know, but I doubt we are talking superstars here). Their best value is to be on a competitive team during their ECL years.

A rookie who can actually help a team at 900K is invaluable in a cap league. But I don't think these are wipe-the-board-clean and rebuild around them type players.







James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 3 @ 6:10 PM ET
How will Arizona afford Hall? They'll likely have to overpay to keep him in Arizona, and they don't really have the cap space to fit $9.5M+.
- tkecanuck341






Soderberg, Hall (the portion the Coyotes are paying), Hinostroza, and Richardson combine to make more this season than Hall will make next year.

Signing him is dependent on him wanting to play here. If he wants to, they'll find the cap space pretty easily.
camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 3 @ 6:25 PM ET
Nice post at the end of the last blog!
You post hate and discontent....And then cut and run by posting a new batch of mindless content. Another Jimmy Tan-tan specialty.
You really are a very small person
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 3 @ 6:29 PM ET
Nice post at the end of the last blog!
You post hate and discontent....And then cut and run by posting a new batch of mindless content. Another Jimmy Tan-tan specialty.
You really are a very small person

- camfor

You mean this response to MJL?

What in my post exactly led you to turn it into a political discussion? LOL

I would be happy to debate that with you and tear you apart again. As usual, you don't have the first clue. I'm available Tanner but you'll cower and hide.

You prove your ignorance more and more every day.
- MJL

Tanner said...

"I continue to find the condescending act from the dumbest person I've ever "met" to be absolutely hilarious. You've been my punching bag for six years, and the best part is while you think you're trolling me, I just bait and embarrass you constantly.

Just the idea that someone would support Trump, the fat, murdering, white supremacist, and still think they could show their face around normal people, let alone attempt to talk down to them, is so far beyond the pale I don't even know what to say.

You're a garbage human being and you make me sick."
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 3 @ 6:58 PM ET
Nice post at the end of the last blog!
You post hate and discontent....And then cut and run by posting a new batch of mindless content. Another Jimmy Tan-tan specialty.
You really are a very small person

- camfor



Anyone who admits to being a Trump fan better get used to hearing things they don't like. If it isnt abundantly clear, you're done.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 7:05 PM ET
You mean this response to MJL?

What in my post exactly led you to turn it into a political discussion? LOL

I would be happy to debate that with you and tear you apart again. As usual, you don't have the first clue. I'm available Tanner but you'll cower and hide.

You prove your ignorance more and more every day.
- MJL

Tanner said...

"I continue to find the condescending act from the dumbest person I've ever "met" to be absolutely hilarious. You've been my punching bag for six years, and the best part is while you think you're trolling me, I just bait and embarrass you constantly.

Just the idea that someone would support Trump, the fat, murdering, white supremacist, and still think they could show their face around normal people, let alone attempt to talk down to them, is so far beyond the pale I don't even know what to say.

You're a garbage human being and you make me sick."

- gergeswillems


It's hysterical. Tanner is so insecure that when I challenged his statements in a hockey context, the only retort he could muster was a political response that was completely outside of the scope of the conversation. He wouldn't dare engage me in the political arena.

Tanner, don't try and hijack this thread into a political debate. I will not respond here. I'll be happy to debate you on the other thread if you can act like an adult.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 3 @ 7:12 PM ET
It's hysterical. Tanner is so insecure that when I challenged his statements in a hockey context, the only retort he could muster was a political response that was completely outside of the scope of the conversation. He wouldn't dare engage me in the political arena.

Tanner, don't try and hijack this thread into a political debate. I will not respond here. I'll be happy to debate you on the other thread if you can act like an adult.

- MJL

Tanner waited 2 days to respond to your post and then spewed his vitriol hoping you wouldn't see it before he posted his latest blog. Classic cut and run. Jimmy has to play the politics card. That's how he increases his clicks and comments. He hates Trump so much but mentioning his name is the only way he can get comments.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 7:14 PM ET
Tanner waited 2 days to respond to your post and then spewed his vitriol hoping you wouldn't see it before he posted his latest blog. Classic cut and run.
- gergeswillems



It's his typical rhetoric.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 7:38 PM ET


If the Coyotes were the Leafs, I would hate the way Chayka built his team. But they are a small market team that has to take risks to win, and I think he's spit the difference rather creatively, given that he wasn't able to get that elite player through the draft.

- James_Tanner


This makes no sense. What the Coyotes have to do to win, is to build the team through the draft. Not trade for players like Kessel or for impending UFA's like Hall. At least now you've come around and are admitting that Chayka has made a series of bad moves. This is a familiar timeline with you Tanner. It always takes you far too long to actually get it when people like myself try and explain things to you. Over time it is a sure bet that you will contradict yourself and do a 180. You repeatedly contradict yourself for one simple reason. You don't know what you're talking about. and you just make crap up.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jun 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
Everything about this article is click bait. Tanner, Tanner, Trumps your president. For another Four years. You actually try to sound stupid so people will comment. How the frick do you have a job
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 3 @ 8:21 PM ET
Anyone who admits to being a Trump fan better get used to hearing things they don't like. If it isnt abundantly clear, you're done.
- James_Tanner


Them sounds like looting, burning and smashing stuff words!


I'll bring the electrolyte packs. Can you bring some extra face masks?

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 8:35 PM ET
Everything about this article is click bait. Tanner, Tanner, Trumps your president. For another Four years. You actually try to sound stupid so people will comment. How the frick do you have a job
- Angus4444


Tanner is Canadian.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 3 @ 8:53 PM ET
Tanner is Canadian.
- MJL



And unlike Trump supporters, not party to treason, racism, or violence against peacefully assembled Americans. If you still support the white power president after this week, you deserve him.
Kinsella13
New York Islanders
Location: Valley Stream, NY
Joined: 04.20.2019

Jun 3 @ 9:03 PM ET
What is it with your obsession of whatever goalie the Coyotes currently have at that moment. First Raanta was a top 5 goaltender in the NHL when he was playing well. Now Kuemper is suddenly somebody who "teams look for, for decades"

Neither of these goaltenders are top 10 in the league. And neither of them are "elite"
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 3 @ 9:13 PM ET
Tanner is Canadian.
- MJL


He’s being traded for 7th rounder.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
He’s being traded for 7th rounder.
- Garnie

CD player to be named later.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 3 @ 9:19 PM ET
CD player to be named later.
- gergeswillems


Tanner and the REM catalogue for the last Foo Fighters album.

Probably only end up with a Nickleback album, but we’ll take it.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 3 @ 9:22 PM ET
Tanner and the REM catalogue for the last Foo Fighters album.

Probably only end up with a Nickleback album, but we’ll take it.

- Garnie

It's a tough trade to make. Everybody hurts. Like reading a Tanner blog.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 3 @ 9:35 PM ET
It's a tough trade to make. Everybody hurts. Like reading a Tanner blog.
- gergeswillems



That was your first mistake.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 3 @ 9:36 PM ET
That was your first mistake.
- Steven_Seagull


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