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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
Carol Schram: Bo Horvat, Troy Stecher and the Vancouver Canucks speak out on racism The hockey world is speaking out against racism and vowing to learn more about what it takes to help be better. That includes the Vancouver Canucks, owner Francesco Aquilini and team captain Bo Horvat.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
Thanks Carol, the NHL community needs to speak up, they have a voice that's heard by many as they're public figures with a platform, whether they like it or not.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
Thanks Carol

TBT I haven't read any players or any teams statement. My immediate though is where were these statements 4 months ago?

How many top positions in the NHL or any sport are held by non whites? You want to make a real statement then employ equal opportunity. There are a lot of passionate East Indians Blacks and Asians across Canada and yet I can't think of one head coach GM or president that is ethnic.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 2 @ 2:23 PM ET


Liddle Towers beaten to death by British police in the 1970's. Race riots followed. This was a popular song among the punks and skins I hung with in the early 80's.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:25 PM ET
Awesome Carol!!!

Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:25 PM ET
Carol did you see this on Sportsnet? Does our lack of playoff experience concern you going up against a veteran Minnesota team? Providing the NHL actually goes ahead and starts again.

Are you experienced?

Quinn Hughes, 20: 0 playoff games

Elias Pettersson, 21: 0 playoff games

Brock Boeser, 23: 0 playoff games

Adam Gaudette, 23: 0 playoff games

Jake Virtanen, 23: 0 playoff games

Thatcher Demko, 24: 0 playoff games

Bo Horvat, 25: 6 playoff games

Tyler Motte, 25: 0 playoff games

Troy Stecher, 26: 0 playoff games

Josh Leivo, 27: 0 playoff games

Jacob Markstrom, 30: 0 playoff games
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
Thanks Carol, great work. I read JT’s comments on twitter this morning and felt that he was genuine in his conviction but time will tell. I think it’s great that those with the platform available to them are striving to be heard, sure makes the NFL look stupid now...

Have a great day everyone!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:32 PM ET
Carol did you see this on Sportsnet? Does our lack of playoff experience concern you going up against a veteran Minnesota team? Providing the NHL actually goes ahead and starts again.

Are you experienced?

Quinn Hughes, 20: 0 playoff games

Elias Pettersson, 21: 0 playoff games

Brock Boeser, 23: 0 playoff games

Adam Gaudette, 23: 0 playoff games

Jake Virtanen, 23: 0 playoff games

Thatcher Demko, 24: 0 playoff games

Bo Horvat, 25: 6 playoff games

Tyler Motte, 25: 0 playoff games

Troy Stecher, 26: 0 playoff games

Josh Leivo, 27: 0 playoff games

Jacob Markstrom, 30: 0 playoff games

- Pacificgem


Playoff experience is over rated
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:38 PM ET
Playoff experience is over rated
- 1970vintage

Disagree, it’s extremely important to possess.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 2 @ 2:41 PM ET
Carol did you see this on Sportsnet? Does our lack of playoff experience concern you going up against a veteran Minnesota team? Providing the NHL actually goes ahead and starts again.

Are you experienced?

Quinn Hughes, 20: 0 playoff games

Elias Pettersson, 21: 0 playoff games

Brock Boeser, 23: 0 playoff games

Adam Gaudette, 23: 0 playoff games

Jake Virtanen, 23: 0 playoff games

Thatcher Demko, 24: 0 playoff games

Bo Horvat, 25: 6 playoff games

Tyler Motte, 25: 0 playoff games

Troy Stecher, 26: 0 playoff games

Josh Leivo, 27: 0 playoff games

Jacob Markstrom, 30: 0 playoff games

- Pacificgem


It will depend on a healthy Jacob Markstrom IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:42 PM ET


BC Health saying if you were here on Sunday monitor your health
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:43 PM ET


BC Health saying if you were here on Sunday monitor your health

- VANTEL

Idiots!!!!!
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
Are you one of those donkey's that thinks Boeser should be traded?
- Pacificgem

We should trade him in the last 1-2 years of his next contract
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
Just saw this

Are you experienced?

Quinn Hughes, 20: 0 playoff games

Elias Pettersson, 21: 0 playoff games

Brock Boeser, 23: 0 playoff games

Adam Gaudette, 23: 0 playoff games

Jake Virtanen, 23: 0 playoff games

Thatcher Demko, 24: 0 playoff games

Bo Horvat, 25: 6 playoff games

Tyler Motte, 25: 0 playoff games

Troy Stecher, 26: 0 playoff games

Josh Leivo, 27: 0 playoff games

Jacob Markstrom, 30: 0 playoff games

- Pacificgem

Even though the play-in round is not playoffs, it is a playoff-like situation. Even if they lose, it is valuable experience.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
Even though the play-in round is not playoffs, it is a playoff-like situation. Even if they lose, it is valuable experience.
- Retinalz

If it happens.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
We should trade him in the last 1-2 years of his next contract
- Retinalz

Only if the organization is deep enough to replace what he brings internally.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
Disagree, it’s extremely important to possess.
- Pacificgem


Trevor Linden
124 playoff games played, 34 goals, 65 assists, 104 PIM - playoff warrior, no cups.

Mike Gardner
122 playoff games played, 43 goals, 50 assists, 125 PIM - all star MVP, HHOF no cups

Jonathan Toewes with 17 games of playoff experience (in one season, his second) Stanley cup, Conn Smyth.

The best players are still the best players.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:52 PM ET
Even though the play-in round is not playoffs, it is a playoff-like situation. Even if they lose, it is valuable experience.
- Retinalz

Agree, plus they'll get to keep their 1st rounder this year. Either way it's a good situation to be in for our young guys, who now make up the core of the team.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:57 PM ET
Trevor Linden
124 playoff games played, 34 goals, 65 assists, 104 PIM - playoff warrior, no cups.

Mike Gardner
122 playoff games played, 43 goals, 50 assists, 125 PIM - all star MVP, HHOF no cups

Jonathan Toewes with 17 games of playoff experience (in one season, his second) Stanley cup, Conn Smyth.

The best players are still the best players.

- 1970vintage

True, but the experience of knowing what's coming is what I'm referring to. The experience of just knowing how you're going to have to rise above the normal is invaluable.

Linden had seven points in seven games the first time he experienced the playoffs, Toews had thirteen points in seventeen games and then won the Conn Smythe the next year, however, sometimes star players struggle to adapt, you just picked two that fit your narrative.

Mike Gartner had zero points in four games the first time he experienced the playoffs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
True, but the experience of knowing what's coming is what I'm referring to. The experience of just knowing how you're going to have to rise above the normal is invaluable.

Linden had seven points in seven games the first time he experienced the playoffs, Toews had thirteen points in seventeen games and then won the Conn Smythe the next year, however, sometimes star players struggle to adapt, you just picked two that fit your narrative.

- Pacificgem


Miller Toffoli Peason Beagle Sutter Edler Tanev Myers Eriksson Ferland 10 players with experience

Toffoli Sutter Pearson and Beagle with cups.

Almost looks like Jim knew what he was doing
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
Well done Carol!

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
Miller Toffoli Peason Beagle Sutter Edler Tanev Myers Eriksson Ferland 10 players with experience

Toffoli Sutter Pearson and Beagle with cups.

Almost looks like Jim knew what he was doing

- VANTEL



Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
Miller Toffoli Peason Beagle Sutter Edler Tanev Myers Eriksson Ferland 10 players with experience

Toffoli Sutter Pearson and Beagle with cups.

Almost looks like Jim knew what he was doing

- VANTEL

Should they resume play I think those guys, with their experience, will definitely help the young guys.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
True, but the experience of knowing what's coming is what I'm referring to. The experience of just knowing how you're going to have to rise above the normal is invaluable.

Linden had seven points in seven games the first time he experienced the playoffs, Toews had thirteen points in seventeen games and then won the Conn Smythe the next year, however, sometimes star players struggle to adapt, you just picked two that fit your narrative.

Mike Gartner had zero points in four games the first time he experienced the playoffs.

- Pacificgem


I’m not saying the experience isn’t valuable, just that it isn’t as important as some make it out to be, especially GM’s who overpay a player because they had success in the playoffs in the past.

I chose one player who we all know well, and one of the greats of the game who I wasn’t even sure if he had won a cup or not until I looked.

Pettersson just won a league championship and tournament MVP two years ago, pretty sure he will be fine.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
Alia
@MizzzAlia
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A civil war is happening in front of our eyes ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267606026859147265

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