James Tanner: Finishing the NHL Season Seems to be a Very Bad Idea

I'm torn on the situation and very glad I'm not responsible for this decision. Putting players and families at risk for some entertainment is not worth it imo but you know damn well I'd be watching every second of it.

Couldn't agree more. Well done.

I'm torn on the situation and very glad I'm not responsible for this decision. Putting players and families at risk for some entertainment is not worth it imo but you know damn well I'd be watching every second of it.
- fishbulb

I feel the same way. If they have hockey, I'm going to watch, gamble, write about it and cheer. I just don't think they should. But I'm also willing to say I don't know 100% what the right decision is, but then again, I don't exactly trust Gary Bettman to make it.

I have to agree with you Tanner. Not that I don't want hockey back but I don't see how they can do it in complete isolation. The lost revenue will be devastating to the league but sometimes you just have to accept reality.

I heard San Francisco's Chinatown is safe. Set up a rink there. And combat racism. Win. Win.

James Tanner: Finishing the NHL Season Seems to be a Very Bad Idea
- James_Tanner

But the Governor of Amity Beach says Florida is fine. Let’s go there. I’m way less worried about the players. They’re making a business decision for their share of the $500M still on the table for this year and will have an army of people in white coats running behind them with swabs. There are a lot of other people though who won’t see the same coin who will be put at way more risk, but lace ‘em up boys.

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
Time to open up in a big way. Those at higher risk like a bad flu shelter away.

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
Time to open up in a big way. Those at higher risk like a bad flu shelter away.
- arh777

Would those people have died at that time if they didn't contract COVID-19?

The way NHL seems to be going is fine.

Businesses are slowly starting to open up around the country...even NYC is planning on a June 1st phasing in of opening up businesses.

The precautions being taking by NHL will be more then that is even needed, so employees will be protected.

Can't shelter forever.

And before Tanner , or anyone else, for that matter, call me stupid....this is my opinion, and everyone on here are entitled to theirs, as well. Take a deep breath, and realize that the best course of action is somewhere in between.

Either way, businesses will open, sooner then later, and everyone has to make their own cost/benefit analysis on how they will proceed going forward.

Please, no one act like they are better then anyone else..That be nice for a change

Would those people have died at that time if they didn't contract COVID-19?
- MJL

Well, they’re not volunteering that information. My point is why inflate the numbers? Do you know putting in a stint is an elective procedure? Hospitals aren’t doing those procedures. So a guy has a heart attack and dies because he didn’t have the stint put in and oh, he just happened to have Covid-19.
Just not buying shutting down an economy based on bad numbers.

The way NHL seems to be going is fine.

Businesses are slowly starting to open up around the country...even NYC is planning on a June 1st phasing in of opening up businesses.

The precautions being taking by NHL will be more then that is even needed, so employees will be protected.

Can't shelter forever.
- rrentz

The won't be playing in NYC. No chance in hell of that.

Well, they’re not volunteering that information. My point is why inflate the numbers? Do you know putting in a stint is an elective procedure? Hospitals aren’t doing those procedures. So a guy has a heart attack and dies because he didn’t have the stint put in and oh, he just happened to have Covid-19.
Just not buying shutting down an economy based on bad numbers.
- arh777

Also hospitals in the US get more money for Covid-19 deaths.

Well, they’re not volunteering that information. My point is why inflate the numbers? Do you know putting in a stint is an elective procedure? Hospitals aren’t doing those procedures. So a guy has a heart attack and dies because he didn’t have the stint put in and oh, he just happened to have Covid-19.
Just not buying shutting down an economy based on bad numbers.
- arh777

I don't think the numbers are being inflated in that manner. I also don't know where you're getting that putting a stint in is an elective procedure. Hospitals are absolutely performing emergency cardiac procedures.

The won't be playing in NYC. No chance in hell of that.
- MJL

Didn't say they were, just that businesses are slowly going to start reopening by June.

Common sense would dictate that if NYC, the epicenter of Covid, is going to start reopening, then most other places will be doing so at a faster rate..no?

Well, they’re not volunteering that information. My point is why inflate the numbers? Do you know putting in a stint is an elective procedure? Hospitals aren’t doing those procedures. So a guy has a heart attack and dies because he didn’t have the stint put in and oh, he just happened to have Covid-19.
Just not buying shutting down an economy based on bad numbers.
- arh777

No one who's actually on the front lines fighting this mess are inflating anything.... They simply follow procedures. Those procedures and data collection are set by government officials and administration. Who knows what their motivations are. Guaranteed, $$$, has a lot to do with it though

Didn't say they were, just that businesses are slowly going to start reopening by June.

Common sense would dictate that if NYC, the epicenter of Covid, is going to start reopening, then most other places will be doing so at a faster rate..no?
- rrentz

Here is the fundamental truth and reality that we have to realize and are faced with. The economy is going to start to be opened up but we are doing so before it is really safe to do so. They have no choice. Same with hockey, they may find a way to play but they really shouldn't be.

Here is the fundamental truth and reality that we have to realize and are faced with. The economy is going to start to be opened up but we are doing so before it is really safe to do so. They have no choice. Same with hockey, they may find a way to play but they really shouldn't be.
- MJL

I agree with your last sentence and disagree with your second last sentence. That’s better than we normally do

The biggest question to trying to restart things is “is it worth it?” We all want to see hockey start back up again just as much as the players, teams, and the league. Can we start back up in a safe manner, probably but to have players, coaches, trainers, referees, time keepers, camera personnel, cooks, hotel staff, drivers, and arena up-keep quarantine for 2 weeks, fly them in, quarantine them for another 2 weeks followed by locking them down from society for a minimum of 2 months play we have to ask ourselves is it worth it? Probably not

Considering the most likely to happen rumour (outside of cancelling the year) that the nhl is willing to award a cup in November which I think would require restrictions eased (which isn’t likely), would it be worth it to award a cup then and play a shortened year next year, that would probably depend on who you ask but the majority would say no I think.

Also even if the PA/League can find a way to safely operate it would be far fetched to think everyone will come back. If they try to restart and let’s say McDavid says he’s not comfortable going back there isn’t really anything they can do to make him. There will be people that are too afraid to leave their homes regardless of how under control we have this until it’s gone.

How can anyone take you seriously after that bleach comment?

Here is the fundamental truth and reality that we have to realize and are faced with. The economy is going to start to be opened up but we are doing so before it is really safe to do so. They have no choice. Same with hockey, they may find a way to play but they really shouldn't be.
- MJL

Life needs to go on. People need to get back to work. There are risks, absolutely, but IMO, and many others, the risks are diminishing by the day, week, and months that go by. We can't continue much longer under quarantine. Just like the projected effects/deaths from Covid were very inflated, so will be the effects of opening up businesses. Of course, Covid will be around longer then the quarantine, but ut won't be nearly as bad as some are saying.

People actually believe there will ever be a time when there is NO risk from Covid?

Waiting a year until anti body tests, vaccines are widely available is the only way to go?

Not saying you feel that way

Life needs to go on. People need to get back to work. There are risks, absolutely, but IMO, and many others, the risks are diminishing by the day, week, and months that go by. We can't continue much longer under quarantine. Just like the projected effects/deaths from Covid were very inflated, so will be the effects of opening up businesses. Of course, Covid will be around longer then the quarantine, but ut won't be nearly as bad as some are saying.

Cost/benefit.
- rrentz

I don't disagree with you but it won't truly be safe until a vaccine is available. As you say though, life has to go on. There's a difference between safer and safe.

The biggest question to trying to restart things is “is it worth it?” We all want to see hockey start back up again just as much as the players, teams, and the league. Can we start back up in a safe manner, probably but to have players, coaches, trainers, referees, time keepers, camera personnel, cooks, hotel staff, drivers, and arena up-keep quarantine for 2 weeks, fly them in, quarantine them for another 2 weeks followed by locking them down from society for a minimum of 2 months play we have to ask ourselves is it worth it? Probably not

Considering the most likely to happen rumour (outside of cancelling the year) that the nhl is willing to award a cup in November which I think would require restrictions eased (which isn’t likely), would it be worth it to award a cup then and play a shortened year next year, that would probably depend on who you ask but the majority would say no I think.

Also even if the PA/League can find a way to safely operate it would be far fetched to think everyone will come back. If they try to restart and let’s say McDavid says he’s not comfortable going back there isn’t really anything they can do to make him. There will be people that are too afraid to leave their homes regardless of how under control we have this until it’s gone.
- RedC21

Over/under on any players saying they won't play.....I'll take the under . I bet No player will say that

How can anyone take you seriously after that bleach comment?
- JLO961

I know right? You did it and you're totally fine. I mean, what's a slight bit of brain damage between friends! I can't wait to see what you do when you find out that according to Trump, Lorena Bobbit had the cure the whole time.

I don't disagree with you but it won't truly be safe until a vaccine is available. As you say though, life has to go on. There's a difference between safer and safe.
- MJL

Quarentine has helped, but draconian/marshal law rule by some states is way overdone.

Safe doesn't exist in any form..never has.