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Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Victoria B.C., BC Joined: 09.15.2015
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Completely agree. This team is only a couple points from a top-10 pick. Even if they make playoffs at this point it's going to be a short run.
I say sell unless they can get a Palmieri or equivalent type deal where they are here next year.
Wouldn't be surprised if Hall comes here over summer so don't force anything.
Hire a HC over the summer and re-tool. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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rmull905
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 02.27.2007
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So look for hockey trades vs. rental. I'd be up for that. Queue the Johnny to NJ or Philly talk ! - tincup
Well, so long as we're talking Johnny... some NHL 20 deals
Johnny and Brodie for Konecny and Ghost? Flames will have to retain some salary in that type of deal, but seems feasible
Johnny and Looch (30% retained) for Wood, Vatanen, Ty Smith + pick? Dunno if that's too rich?
Johnny and Looch (40% retained) for Wood and Devils unprotected 1st round pick. Just (frank) it, get Lafreniere/Holtz/Byfield
Johnny for Kaapo Kakko. New York loves'em some stars, a line of Johhny, Panarin and Zibanejad would complete their retooling. If they are set on keeping Kreider, might as well load up.
Johnny for Laine. Shake up both rosters.
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I was optimistic yesterday about the Flames, but I'm not anymore. They will not make the playoffs this year. They seem like they don't care and are just waiting until they can golf. Trade Gaudreau, he doesn't seem to want to be here anymore and wants to be closer to home. |
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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Great Blog!
Some comments:
Would be curious to know what is the league average TOI for 3rd pairings. Kinda think 10:42 and 12:25 is not that bad in a must win game minus your top guy?
Backs is being paid like a 2C and bottom line he is playing like a 3C, he makes 5.35m and he has a NTC. Not good!
Sounds like the writer of this blog, most followers of this blog and the guys on the FAN 960 are all in agreement.... Flames should stand pat or sell at the deadline! |
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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Well, so long as we're talking Johnny... some NHL 20 deals
Johnny and Brodie for Konecny and Ghost? Flames will have to retain some salary in that type of deal, but seems feasible
Johnny and Looch (30% retained) for Wood, Vatanen, Ty Smith + pick? Dunno if that's too rich?
Johnny and Looch (40% retained) for Wood and Devils unprotected 1st round pick. Just (frank) it, get Lafreniere/Holtz/Byfield
Johnny for Kaapo Kakko. New York loves'em some stars, a line of Johhny, Panarin and Zibanejad would complete their retooling. If they are set on keeping Kreider, might as well load up.
Johnny for Laine. Shake up both rosters. - rmull905
How about Johnny for Risto and Dylan Cozins? Too much, not enough or fair?
Or Johnny for Dumba and a 2020 1st? Too much, not enough or fair?
Last summer we likely got this and maybe more! |
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bsimms
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 10.25.2013
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Geeze Louis that game was hard to watch. I think all the johnny trade talk is warranted, but I'll throw another idea out there... how many more seasons is old man Gio going to be captain? I like Chucky, but not sure he's quite ready. Mony's gotten gritter this year, but I don't think he's an upgrade on Gio. |
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rmull905
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 02.27.2007
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How about Johnny for Risto and Dylan Cozins?
Or Johnny for Dumba and a 2020 1st?
Last summer we likely got this and maybe more! - DEDDIE
Would be totally ok with Risto and Cozens, also ok with taking back no salary and maybe seeking Cozens and Luukonen and a pick
Also be ok with the Dumba and a #1, if not lottery protected. Lottery protection on the pick would be a no-go for me. |
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rmull905
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 02.27.2007
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Geeze Louis that game was hard to watch. I think all the johnny trade talk is warranted, but I'll throw another idea out there... how many more seasons is old man Gio going to be captain? I like Chucky, but not sure he's quite ready. Mony's gotten gritter this year, but I don't think he's an upgrade on Gio. - bsimms
I'd probably hand it to Chucky next year - I'm an old school guy that wants his captain to DRAG his team along. Monahan coasts a little bit too much for my liking, though I do agree that this has been the most gritty season of his career. He's becoming a more effective 2 way guy |
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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Would be totally ok with Risto and Cozens, also ok with taking back no salary and maybe seeking Cozens and Luukonen and a pick
Also be ok with the Dumba and a #1, if not lottery protected. Lottery protection on the pick would be a no-go for me. - rmull905
Agree.
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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Well, so long as we're talking Johnny... some NHL 20 deals
Johnny and Brodie for Konecny and Ghost? Flames will have to retain some salary in that type of deal, but seems feasible
Johnny and Looch (30% retained) for Wood, Vatanen, Ty Smith + pick? Dunno if that's too rich?
Johnny and Looch (40% retained) for Wood and Devils unprotected 1st round pick. Just (frank) it, get Lafreniere/Holtz/Byfield
Johnny for Kaapo Kakko. New York loves'em some stars, a line of Johhny, Panarin and Zibanejad would complete their retooling. If they are set on keeping Kreider, might as well load up.
Johnny for Laine. Shake up both rosters. - rmull905
I personally don't love Ghosts contract and doubt PHI wants to move Konecny.
Looch has that franking NMC but if he would waive I would do that trade with NJ for their 1st all day.
Yes to Kakko trade.
WIN ain't trading Laine for JG. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Well, so long as we're talking Johnny... some NHL 20 deals
Johnny and Brodie for Konecny and Ghost? Flames will have to retain some salary in that type of deal, but seems feasible
Johnny and Looch (30% retained) for Wood, Vatanen, Ty Smith + pick? Dunno if that's too rich?
Johnny and Looch (40% retained) for Wood and Devils unprotected 1st round pick. Just (frank) it, get Lafreniere/Holtz/Byfield
Johnny for Kaapo Kakko. New York loves'em some stars, a line of Johhny, Panarin and Zibanejad would complete their retooling. If they are set on keeping Kreider, might as well load up.
Johnny for Laine. Shake up both rosters. - rmull905
I like the creativity to get rid of Looch. IMO, if they can't move him by retaining a poopload of salary, they need to buy him out...he's an anchor wherever they put him and he's obviously not giving any more room to JH or anyone else for that matter. It sucks but replace him with someone for 1million and the team would be better off.
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RedC21
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 01.18.2013
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I say if the team keeps sliding trade pending F.A’s for picks, prospects, young players with room to grow.
This team is more than a 28 year old Jason Zucker away from being a contender and by the time we can be he would be well past his due date.
We have a lot of solid 2nd/3rd liners throughout the lineup, acquiring another one isn’t going to put us over the top. The only improvement that can be made to this roster is if we can get a 1st line player/top pair defenseman. If we can’t make that happen we may be in for a rough re-tool over the next 2 years. Wether other teams have figured us out or if the team just lost their mojo, there needs to be a shakeup that either makes us better or worse. No lateral moves. |
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Flames Suck... I really think Johnny needs to be traded to where he wants to be. Flames need players who want to be here. We need to sell at the trade deadline and make the team better. This team is not fun to watch... let's get some good pieces on trade deadline that will help the team long run. |
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It would've been so good to have Kadri and Zuker on the team... flames tried i guess. They would've helped so much |
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Donovan
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Princeton, ON Joined: 09.20.2015
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I am still sore over Kadri, who is killing it in Colorado and he turned the flames away pfft!!!
I don't believe its time to panic, although it really doesn't look good don't kid yourself about lucic of course neal isn't fairing all that much better he has his own stone cold drought right now.
If the return is at least 2 propects and a first rounder then tell johnny to go and see how hall pans out a bit. |
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Why is Rieder in And buddy is out? The games I have seen Robinson in he has made wayyyy more things happen out there ( turnovers, hits, shots, mixing it up.) don’t get me wrong buddy isn’t the be all end all but my got he is better then raider is right now. |
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ksofm
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 12.31.2014
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Why is Rieder in And buddy is out? The games I have seen Robinson in he has made wayyyy more things happen out there ( turnovers, hits, shots, mixing it up.) don’t get me wrong buddy isn’t the be all end all but my got he is better then raider is right now. - pzoxic
Refs are (frank)ing brutal tonight. Peterson is a puss. |
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Refs are (frank)ing brutal tonight. Peterson is a puss. - ksofm
He is a puss he better get used to it. Or he won’t last long |
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DuranDuran
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Quito Joined: 09.29.2015
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He is a puss he better get used to it. Or he won’t last long - pzoxic
Yeah he looks like the captain of the chess club out there. Don't get me wrong, dude is an amazing talent. But has anyone mentioned to him that contact is legal in the NHL? |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Refs are (frank)ing brutal tonight. Peterson is a puss. - ksofm
Yeah, that was a weird one. The Refs decided to throw out the rule book early. Just when I say buy out Looch, he goes and has a multi point game ! |
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