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Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Feb 7 @ 12:56 AM ET
Wesley Peters: Jets Beat the Central's Best
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Its amazing how well players perform when they are away from the anchor, Adam Lowry. JetFuel, BW and I have been saying for a long time that we need a third line that can provide offense and look what happens when we get that!

That Copp-Harkins-Roslovic line looks good. Even checking in on both Tanev and Armia, both are doing great. All those players seem to have their offense and creativity stifled when they play with the anchor.

I think Lowry is one of Chevy's best trade chips the moment. I don't trust Maurice to put him on the fourth line where he belongs.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Feb 7 @ 11:35 AM ET
I agree that Lowry is a player that could bring back a good, young second pairing d-man, with term as he's the type of player that is is coveted by many teams, especially during the playoff run.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Feb 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
So....other teams would covet an Adam Lowry, but we have no use for him ?
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
So....other teams would covet an Adam Lowry, but we have no use for him ?
- bennythehat

Lowry is a great fourth line center. Maurice though, would never put him there, thus stifling the creativity of the third line. That's why I would trade him as it would force Maurice to leave the third line the way it is.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 1:34 PM ET
The 2015 draft continues to impress.

Kyle Connor #1
Jack Roslovic #2
Jansen Harkins #3
Erik Foley #4 Btw, Erik Foley has not played hockey in over a year and still not symptom free from concussion. STL Blues
Michael Spacek #5 (Moose)
Mason Appleton #6
Sami Niku #7

I don't buy the "Chevy draft and develop disaster" that is being repeated over and over again. Yep, there are some whiffs along the way, but what GM doesn't whiff? That's 13 draft picks on a 23 man roster. 56%, is that any worse than other teams?

Let's look at some other roster players.
Andrew Copp 2013 #104
Nik Ehlers 2014 #9
Helle 2012 #130
P Laine 2016 #2
A Lowry 2011 #67
M Morrisey 2013 #13
M Scheifle 2011 #7
T Poolman 2013 #127

MB Moose are also populated with Draft picks as well. I don't know what the stats are regarding other teams in terms of draft picks playing on the big club or on the farm team, but I hope someone can educate me with stats. Until then, I am not buying that Chevy is any worse than any other GM at draft and develop.

Here are a few Moose names. Heinola is not on either list but we know he could play with both clubs, likewise Samburg.

Comrie
Kovacevic
Stanley
Gawanke
Vesalainen
Gustafsson
Nogier
Suess
Lipon
Berdin
Green
Stokewych (Atlanta, does this count?)
McKenzie

Did I miss anyone?
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Note:

I didn't include Little that is an organizational pick, but not Chevy's pick. I looked at TB, Mtrl, Calgary, Oilers, TO, NYR and none of these teams had more draft picks playing than the Jets. I would look at more but I need to get back to work!!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 7 @ 2:12 PM ET
The 2015 draft continues to impress.

Kyle Connor #1
Jack Roslovic #2
Jansen Harkins #3
Erik Foley #4 Btw, Erik Foley has not played hockey in over a year and still not symptom free from concussion. STL Blues
Michael Spacek #5 (Moose)
Mason Appleton #6
Sami Niku #7

I don't buy the "Chevy draft and develop disaster" that is being repeated over and over again. Yep, there are some whiffs along the way, but what GM doesn't whiff? That's 13 draft picks on a 23 man roster. 56%, is that any worse than other teams?

Let's look at some other roster players.
Andrew Copp 2013 #4
Nik Ehlers 2014 #9
Helle 2012 #130
P Laine 2016 #2
A Lowry 2011 #67
M Morrisey 2013 #13
M Scheifle 2011 #7
T Poolman 2013 #127

MB Moose are also populated with Draft picks as well. I don't know what the stats are regarding other teams in terms of draft picks playing on the big club or on the farm team, but I hope someone can educate me with stats. Until then, I am not buying that Chevy is any worse than any other GM at draft and develop.

Here are a few Moose names. Heinola is not on either list but we know he could play with both clubs, likewise Samburg.

Comrie
Kovacevic
Stanley
Gawanke
Vesalainen
Gustafsson
Nogier
Suess
Lipon
Berdin
Green
Stokewych (Atlanta, does this count?)
McKenzie

Did I miss anyone?

- CharlieDog


Thanks for taking the time to put this together. That is an outstanding draft develop record. Primarily one person has manufactured this narrative. Chevy's biggest flaws as a GM are his honorability, descretion and patience. I can live with that for as long as he wants the job.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 7 @ 3:37 PM ET
The 2015 draft continues to impress.

Kyle Connor #1
Jack Roslovic #2
Jansen Harkins #3
Erik Foley #4 Btw, Erik Foley has not played hockey in over a year and still not symptom free from concussion. STL Blues
Michael Spacek #5 (Moose)
Mason Appleton #6
Sami Niku #7

I don't buy the "Chevy draft and develop disaster" that is being repeated over and over again. Yep, there are some whiffs along the way, but what GM doesn't whiff? That's 13 draft picks on a 23 man roster. 56%, is that any worse than other teams?

Let's look at some other roster players.
Andrew Copp 2013 #104
Nik Ehlers 2014 #9
Helle 2012 #130
P Laine 2016 #2
A Lowry 2011 #67
M Morrisey 2013 #13
M Scheifle 2011 #7
T Poolman 2013 #127

MB Moose are also populated with Draft picks as well. I don't know what the stats are regarding other teams in terms of draft picks playing on the big club or on the farm team, but I hope someone can educate me with stats. Until then, I am not buying that Chevy is any worse than any other GM at draft and develop.

Here are a few Moose names. Heinola is not on either list but we know he could play with both clubs, likewise Samburg.

Comrie
Kovacevic
Stanley
Gawanke
Vesalainen
Gustafsson
Nogier
Suess
Lipon
Berdin
Green
Stokewych (Atlanta, does this count?)
McKenzie

Did I miss anyone?

- CharlieDog


You set a low bar on what impresses you.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 4:28 PM ET
The 2015 draft continues to impress.

Kyle Connor #1
Jack Roslovic #2
Jansen Harkins #3
Erik Foley #4 Btw, Erik Foley has not played hockey in over a year and still not symptom free from concussion. STL Blues
Michael Spacek #5 (Moose)
Mason Appleton #6
Sami Niku #7

I don't buy the "Chevy draft and develop disaster" that is being repeated over and over again. Yep, there are some whiffs along the way, but what GM doesn't whiff? That's 13 draft picks on a 23 man roster. 56%, is that any worse than other teams?

Let's look at some other roster players.
Andrew Copp 2013 #104
Nik Ehlers 2014 #9
Helle 2012 #130
P Laine 2016 #2
A Lowry 2011 #67
M Morrisey 2013 #13
M Scheifle 2011 #7
T Poolman 2013 #127

MB Moose are also populated with Draft picks as well. I don't know what the stats are regarding other teams in terms of draft picks playing on the big club or on the farm team, but I hope someone can educate me with stats. Until then, I am not buying that Chevy is any worse than any other GM at draft and develop.

Here are a few Moose names. Heinola is not on either list but we know he could play with both clubs, likewise Samburg.

Comrie
Kovacevic
Stanley
Gawanke
Vesalainen
Gustafsson
Nogier
Suess
Lipon
Berdin
Green
Stokewych (Atlanta, does this count?)
McKenzie

Did I miss anyone?

- CharlieDog


How many of those players listed have averaged more than half a point per game? I am really interested in hearing that answer.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
You set a low bar on what impresses you.
- BWJumper


5 draft picks from 2015 draft playing on the NHL club and one draft pick on the farm club is not impressive?

Show me where another team has 5 players playing on the big club from the same draft year.

I actually missed Ganarro as the "second" 7th rounder in 2015.

But, we are waiting stats man.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 4:33 PM ET
How many of those players listed have averaged more than half a point per game? I am really interested in hearing that answer.
- TheUltimateJet


Come on, you say Chevy is a disaster at draft and develop and you have no basis except repeating your negative baseless tale. I guess if you hear yourself repeating the same nonsense over and over, it must be true.

Like I said previously, we are waiting stats man.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 4:34 PM ET
Come on, you say Chevy is a disaster at draft and develop and you have no basis except repeating your negative baseless tale. I guess if you hear yourself repeating the same nonsense over and over, it must be true.

Like I said previously, we are waiting stats man.

- CharlieDog

Chevy is a disaster. If the pick did not come in the top 20, they don't produce more than 40 points per season.

That's a fact!
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 4:38 PM ET
Chevy is a disaster. If the pick did not come in the top 20, they don't produce more than 40 points per season.

That's a fact!

- TheUltimateJet


Yada, yada, yada,

You must have went to the Donald Trump school of repetitious bs of repeating a tale.

We get you don't like Maurice or Chevy, but you need to start a new line of attack as your draft and develop tale is busted.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 7 @ 4:48 PM ET
Chevy is a disaster. If the pick did not come in the top 20, they don't produce more than 40 points per season.

That's a fact!

- TheUltimateJet

Seriously?
What’s the percentage of players in the NHL drafted after the top 20 that do?
What point are you even trying to make?
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 4:54 PM ET
Yada, yada, yada,

You must have went to the Donald Trump school of repetitious bs of repeating a tale.

We get you don't like Maurice or Chevy, but you need to start a new line of attack as your draft and develop tale is busted.

- CharlieDog

Throw all the insults you want. You still have provided no player names that Chevy drafted outside of the top 20 that have scored more than 40 points in a season.

I do find some of you guys interesting in that when you are unable to prove a point you start hurling insults.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 4:57 PM ET
Yada, yada, yada,

You must have went to the Donald Trump school of repetitious bs of repeating a tale.

We get you don't like Maurice or Chevy, but you need to start a new line of attack as your draft and develop tale is busted.

- CharlieDog

Further to this point, how many players on your list have played over 100 NHL games?
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 5:01 PM ET
Further to this point, how many players on your list have played over 100 NHL games?
- TheUltimateJet


Your draft and develop conspiracy theory is debunked and you ask some ridiculous question.

Why don’t you address your own ridiculous question, who cares.

Make the Jets Great Again! Fire Chevy!
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 5:02 PM ET
Further to this point, how many players on your list have played over 100 NHL games?
- TheUltimateJet


Your draft and develop conspiracy theory is debunked and you ask some ridiculous question.

Why don’t you address your own ridiculous question, who cares.

Make the Jets Great Again! Fire Chevy!
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 5:03 PM ET
Busted!

Damn iPhone! Lol
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 7 @ 5:09 PM ET
Your draft and develop conspiracy theory is debunked and you ask some ridiculous question.

Why don’t you address your own ridiculous question, who cares.

Make the Jets Great Again! Fire Chevy!

- CharlieDog

Its unfortunate you provide no answers. You have listed a bunch of guys that have been drafted by Chevy. I could have done the same.

You have not listed any of their NHL accomplishments, because they do not have any. Where is the development?
Dcdaddy
Joined: 05.04.2018

Feb 7 @ 6:58 PM ET
The 2015 draft continues to impress.

Kyle Connor #1
Jack Roslovic #2
Jansen Harkins #3
Erik Foley #4 Btw, Erik Foley has not played hockey in over a year and still not symptom free from concussion. STL Blues
Michael Spacek #5 (Moose)
Mason Appleton #6
Sami Niku #7

I don't buy the "Chevy draft and develop disaster" that is being repeated over and over again. Yep, there are some whiffs along the way, but what GM doesn't whiff? That's 13 draft picks on a 23 man roster. 56%, is that any worse than other teams?

Let's look at some other roster players.
Andrew Copp 2013 #104
Nik Ehlers 2014 #9
Helle 2012 #130
P Laine 2016 #2
A Lowry 2011 #67
M Morrisey 2013 #13
M Scheifle 2011 #7
T Poolman 2013 #127

MB Moose are also populated with Draft picks as well. I don't know what the stats are regarding other teams in terms of draft picks playing on the big club or on the farm team, but I hope someone can educate me with stats. Until then, I am not buying that Chevy is any worse than any other GM at draft and develop.

Here are a few Moose names. Heinola is not on either list but we know he could play with both clubs, likewise Samburg.

Comrie
Kovacevic
Stanley
Gawanke
Vesalainen
Gustafsson
Nogier
Suess
Lipon
Berdin
Green
Stokewych (Atlanta, does this count?)
McKenzie

Did I miss anyone?

- CharlieDog

Ok so what has this group actually delivered? Yes they are on the roster but really the only sustained success we saw from the jets or moose was 2 years ago. Doesn’t matter if they make up the rosters if they only get mediocre results
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
Its unfortunate you provide no answers. You have listed a bunch of guys that have been drafted by Chevy. I could have done the same.

You have not listed any of their NHL accomplishments, because they do not have any. Where is the development?

- TheUltimateJet


The ball is in your court and it is you who needs to provide answers. The 40 points per season, 100 games benchmarks are absolutely irrelevant and random. Without comparing to what averages other teams are achieving with similar draft picks those marks are meaningless This has been pointed out to you dozens of times in different ways to try to explain - yet the obtuse posts continue and are dumbing down the content of jets buzz to that of the leafs or oilers.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 7 @ 7:27 PM ET
Further to this point, how many players on your list have played over 100 NHL games?
- TheUltimateJet

You seem
To ask a lot of questions but answer none.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 7 @ 7:58 PM ET
5 draft picks from 2015 draft playing on the NHL club and one draft pick on the farm club is not impressive?

Show me where another team has 5 players playing on the big club from the same draft year.

I actually missed Ganarro as the "second" 7th rounder in 2015.

But, we are waiting stats man.

- CharlieDog


So your criteria is what just name a team that had 5 draft picks that played a game in the nhl.

2011 NYI 6 players EDM 5 FLA 7 OTT 8 CAL 5 CHI 8 PIT 5 TB 6 ANA 7

That was one year.
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