Ryan Poehling, LW/C,:age 22, #25 overall 2017 by Montreal Canadiens from St Cloud State

Quite a debut the shootout winner plus hat trick vs Toronto last game of last season

Poehling had five goals in the WJC 2019

"He makes 7p for lack of foot speed with great hockey sense and strong work ethic; controls puck well" Hockey Futures reported.

Also this: "plays a sound game positionally, coming back in his own end and has a knack for creating turnovers on the back check" from elite prospects.

I am not reporting a current rumor involving him. His name was mentioned as best I recall on this board as a player Bowman either liked or might be interested in. Montreal entered the season with a top young center looking to break out
- jhawk59[Drouin] and two highly touted centers graduating to pro hockey [Poehling and Suzuki]. Montreal had a center 2r all like, too, in Daneault.

The Canadiens have lacked size at center for years. They lack star power. At one time Paciorety looked to be their top gun but he wound up going to Vegas after expressing unhappiness with his contract
. The Canadiens are trying to rebuild 5heir defense and center positions.

Drouin plays wing for one. I will keep Strome as the slow-footed center.

Ryan Shea with a goal (empty netter) and an assist in Northeastern's 3-1 win over Harvard in the Beanpot tourney semifinal.
- boilermaker100

In the other game, Vlasic showing he may be ready for the Hawks with an own goal.

In the other game, Vlasic showing he may be ready for the Hawks with an own goal.
- Elbows15

I watched some of the BU/BC game and Vlassic made a couple nice plays but the word that comes to mind is lumbering. No way he can skate at the NHL level. He's young and big/lanky so hopefully he can gain a couple steps or three or four.

Wise made a couple appearances in the game but nothing too noteworthy.

This may have been discussed as I have just read a few pages back .How can Winnipeg just terminate a contract, is there no cap ramifications

Joe Biden?
- Dieselhead

Great reply. Old Joe catching hell from even the hockey community.

I watched some of the BU/BC game and Vlassic made a couple nice plays but the word that comes to mind is lumbering. No way he can skate at the NHL level. He's young and big/lanky so hopefully he can gain a couple steps or three or four.

Wise made a couple appearances in the game but nothing too noteworthy.
- EbonyRaptor

In other words very Schmaltz-like.

This may have been discussed as I have just read a few pages back .How can Winnipeg just terminate a contract, is there no cap ramifications
- oldduffman

Only if both sides agree.

This was interesting: a poll of NHL agents in which they asked who the most reasonable GMs are in negotiations. Our StanBo did not get ONE vote. Based on how much of this board feels about his handing out term, dollars, and NMCs like candy, I thought he'd have gotten at least one.

https://theathletic.com/1...-no-trade-lists-and-more/

NOTE: he didn't get a vote for "unreasonable" either

This was interesting: a poll of NHL agents in which they asked who the most reasonable GMs are in negotiations. Our StanBo did not get ONE vote. Based on how much of this board feels about his handing out term, dollars, and NMCs like candy, I thought he'd have gotten at least one.

https://theathletic.com/1...-no-trade-lists-and-more/

NOTE: he didn't get a vote for "unreasonable" either
- pdx2ord

He’s the GM equivalent of Vanilla to Bob Murray’s Rocky Road.

Is it the 1 point in 26 games? Or the general lack of scoring at lower levels?

I don't know much about him; what makes him such a good prospect?
- mohel

He’s playing in the NHL as a 20 year old. Wasn’t ready, plays bottom 6 mins on a junk team, and needs to develop in the A first. Big young center that showed his beast mode at WJC. As Stan has said, Hawks are short on high end forward talent. I like Beaudin tho so not the end of the world if it doesn’t happen. Just a lot of rumors the past fee months connecting Habs/Beaudin.

IMHO Blues, Avs, Stars, Preds, Oilers, Canucks, Knights will make the playoffs. That leaves one spot left for the Hawks, Yotes, Jets, Wild, Flames to fight over. I see Yotes, Jets, Wild sliding. Flames could be our biggest competition for the last spot. So tonight I am cheering for the Hawks over Wild, Preds over Jets, and Oilers over Yotes. Also hoping for Sharks over Flames, but I don't see that happening.

I will start by saying I'm a BIG Big Buff fan...but just to be clear we're good with trading for a 34 defensemen coming off of ankle surgery when the game is all about speed now and he's admitted that he hasn't even started skating yet? But we're not okay with adding a 28 year old winger coming off a career year with past injury concerns? Just trying to make sure I understand what we're okay with...lol

If he's a FA I guess I wouldn't mind bringing him back on the cheap. I wouldn't play him at defense though. I'd tell him he's going back to forward and we're parking his big a$$ in front of the net on every PP and collect all those garbage goals like he used to lol

For those that think the Hawks would be ok with Crow/Delia next year, I point to last nights Leafs Panthers game. Anderson out with concussion proticol, Panthers erase a 2 goal lead and win in regulation

I will start by saying I'm a BIG Big Buff fan...but just to be clear we're good with trading for a 34 defensemen coming off of ankle surgery when the game is all about speed now and he's admitted that he hasn't even started skating yet? But we're not okay with adding a 28 year old winger coming off a career year with past injury concerns? Just trying to make sure I understand what we're okay with...lol

If he's a FA I guess I wouldn't mind bringing him back on the cheap. I wouldn't play him at defense though. I'd tell him he's going back to forward and we're parking his big a$$ in front of the net on every PP and collect all those garbage goals like he used to lol
- Savetheembers33

Buff is a huge hunter, IF he goes anywhere, i would say his home state of Minnesota.

For those that think the Hawks would be ok with Crow/Delia next year, I point to last nights Leafs Panthers game. Anderson out with concussion proticol, Panthers erase a 2 goal lead and win in regulation
- LAHawk

Pretty sure we will not have both Lehner and Crow back next year. So instead of going with Crow and Lankinen (or Delia) we go with Lehner and Lankinen (or Delia). If Lehner is knocked over and goes on concussion protocol is that better?

I do not think Anderson has concussion history. (And they said he passed the concussion tests).

Is going out of the game for concussion protocol different than leaving the game with a bad hammy.

I agree a goalie with concussion history is more risky than one without a concussion history. True of skaters too. But are you going to shy away from every player with a concussion history? Toews, Crosby? Shaw? etc.... It is a pretty long list of skaters and goalies that have had concussions. It is a pretty long list of players with concussion histories that are having great post concussion careers in the NHL.

Pretty sure we will not have both Lehner and Crow back next year. So instead of going with Crow and Lankinen (or Delia) we go with Lehner and Lankinen (or Delia). If Lehner is knocked over and goes on concussion protocol is that better?

I do not think Anderson has concussion history. (And they said he passed the concussion tests).

Is going out of the game for concussion protocol different than leaving the game with a bad hammy.

I agree a goalie with concussion history is more risky than one without a concussion history. True of skaters too. But are you going to shy away from every player with a concussion history? Toews, Crosby? Shaw? etc.... It is a pretty long list of skaters and goalies that have had concussions. It is a pretty long list of players with concussion histories that are having great post concussion careers in the NHL.
- -Doh-

I wasn't clear, I meant Anderson out with an injury (he did just came back from a bad hammy). Crow has had hammy issues also. I was talking about not having an adequate back-up if you 60 game a year goalie gets injured. Crow is in his mid 30's, he is more susceptible to any injury, goalies in general are more susceptibl to injuries than prevously (more athletic, more side to side movements because of the way the game is played today.

I wasn't clear, I meant Anderson out with an injury (he did just came back from a bad hammy). Crow has had hammy issues also. I was talking about not having an adequate back-up if you 60 game a year goalie gets injured. Crow is in his mid 30's, he is more susceptible to any injury, goalies in general are more susceptibl to injuries than prevously (more athletic, more side to side movements because of the way the game is played today.
- LAHawk

Oh. Ok. The question than is cap allocation. Probably we can't have both Lehner and Crow again next year without dumping salary (Saad). I would say Lehner will get $7 mil or more from someone. I am in a minority on this blog, but I think if Lehner is traded or signs elsewhere the Hawks sign Crow at about $5 mil for at least one year. Your backup then needs to be cheap. If you do not give Lankinen or Delia a shot next year when will you? If they suck there are always plenty of cheap experienced backups you can trade for mid-season, especially if you need to LTIR Crow. Personally I see Crow and Lankinen next year. If Crow is injured basically they could be in a dive for the lottery for one more year (or you hope Lankinen is a surprise). Another lottery dive next year may not be a bad thing.

He has made approx $60 mil. in his career not counting the nest 2. He walked away from $15 mil. over the next . Somehow I do not believe Buff is selling to the highest bidder, if in fact he does come back.
- LAHawk

If he can play then the smart move would be St Louis.

This was interesting: a poll of NHL agents in which they asked who the most reasonable GMs are in negotiations. Our StanBo did not get ONE vote. Based on how much of this board feels about his handing out term, dollars, and NMCs like candy, I thought he'd have gotten at least one.

https://theathletic.com/1...-no-trade-lists-and-more/

NOTE: he didn't get a vote for "unreasonable" either
- pdx2ord

Without looking going to say Tallon is rated highly.

IMHO Blues, Avs, Stars, Preds, Oilers, Canucks, Knights will make the playoffs. That leaves one spot left for the Hawks, Yotes, Jets, Wild, Flames to fight over. I see Yotes, Jets, Wild sliding. Flames could be our biggest competition for the last spot. So tonight I am cheering for the Hawks over Wild, Preds over Jets, and Oilers over Yotes. Also hoping for Sharks over Flames, but I don't see that happening.
- -Doh-

I don't think Preds and Knights are sure thing they used to be?

Without looking going to say Tallon is rated highly.
- rpeters01

Oh. Ok. The question than is cap allocation. Probably we can't have both Lehner and Crow again next year without dumping salary (Saad). I would say Lehner will get $7 mil or more from someone. I am in a minority on this blog, but I think if Lehner is traded or signs elsewhere the Hawks sign Crow at about $5 mil for at least one year. Your backup then needs to be cheap. If you do not give Lankinen or Delia a shot next year when will you? If they suck there are always plenty of cheap experienced backups you can trade for mid-season, especially if you need to LTIR Crow. Personally I see Crow and Lankinen next year. If Crow is injured basically they could be in a dive for the lottery for one more year (or you hope Lankinen is a surprise). Another lottery dive next year may not be a bad thing.
- -Doh-

I see Crow closer to $3m...

I don't think Preds and Knights are sure thing they used to be?
- rpeters01

Totally agree. I am not sure there is a sure thing for WC spots this year. It is pretty wide open. That was just my opinion based on overall talent, goaltending, health, schedule, and possible moves before TDL. I liked Vegas a lot more before the coaching change.

I see Crow closer to $3m...
- rpeters01

If Hawks sign Lehner and Crow goes on open market you could be right. If Lehner leaves I do not see Bowman squeezing Crow that hard. Also how Crow finishes this year could be important to his next contract.

- pdx2ord

Now that's a large sample size!