The reason Babcock was fired. Coaches with resumes and accomplishments make questionable decisions that blog posters do not agree with either.

Babcock criticism has been bubbling all season because of questionable tactics and odd lineup decisions (example: ripping William Nylander after his contract holdout was a popular thing to do this year, but what was he supposed to do with some of the linemates Babcock gave him?) Last night was the last straw. Babcock declined to jack up the ice time for his best forwards, even with the Leafs trailing for most of the game. Matthews played less than 19 minutes. That's really low for your most talented scorer in a do-or-die-Game 7 where you never had a single penalty to kill.
- LAHawk

neither college grades nor unstructured sequential interviews (hopping from office to office) are a good predictor, whereas past performance is.

Based on proven research, please explain how JC was a good hire.

Losing record 3 of 4 years in Mora
Losing record in 1 year inRockford
(Yes, they ran through the playoffs after Stan sent down reinforcements)
Followed by a losing season in Chicago

I hope you don’t hire employees for your company.

Kane has always had a handful of games a season where he looks like he would rather be anywhere but playing hockey. Last night was the first one since early in the season where he had no jump at all to his game. It happens. Every player in the league has nights like that. Also, it is okay to give the other team some credit. They obviously had a plan against Kane and they went out and executed the plan.


Kane had a poopty game. Nothing more. Nothing less.
- Elbows15

They were on Kane the moment he had the puck and not backing off....even pressuring him on zone entries on the PP and on 5 on 5....Forced him to either weave through 3-4 guys, which he tried a few times and got poke checked OR give it up to somebody else.

it happens.....I was more aggravated by the lack of urgency as Dumba walked in on CC and 88 stopped moving his feet in pursuit.

Kane has always had a handful of games a season where he looks like he would rather be anywhere but playing hockey. Last night was the first one since early in the season where he had no jump at all to his game. It happens. Every player in the league has nights like that. Also, it is okay to give the other team some credit. They obviously had a plan against Kane and they went out and executed the plan.


Kane had a poopty game. Nothing more. Nothing less.
- Elbows15

Exactly. But if he stinks again tonight the Hawks should trade him for a couple 4th line grinders and Cap Space!

neither college grades nor unstructured sequential interviews (hopping from office to office) are a good predictor, whereas past performance is.

Based on proven research, please explain how JC was a good hire.

Losing record 3 of 4 years in Mora
Losing record in 1 year inRockford
(Yes, they ran through the playoffs after Stan sent down reinforcements)
Followed by a losing season in Chicago

I hope you don’t hire employees for your company.
- scottak

Honest question....do you think another coach gets more out of this team then what JC has so far?

At the end of the day these are professional athletes and if they aren't putting through the effort then the organization has much larger issues then just firing a coach.

Im not pro or anti JC as of now...I'll still trying to figure out what he TRULY is but I know the team has played a lot better recently just as they did last year when they were out of it......The consistency in getting results, slow starts at times, and home record are my biggest concerns.

Not all on JC.

But, it does. Would you hire an employee that continually headed up failed projects?
I don’t. I hire people with a demonstrated history of success.
- scottak

We have a different management philosophy, and that is ok.

Ask just about anybody who has become successful if they have ever failed at any aspect of their journey. Chances are you will get quite a few stories of missteps and blunders.

Edison
Abraham Lincoln
Michael Jordan
Honda
issac Newton.

This is what I tell my employees

Failing is learning
“Just try!”
Initiatives are rewarded; we should be always trying new things
Failing is OK

neither college grades nor unstructured sequential interviews (hopping from office to office) are a good predictor, whereas past performance is.

Based on proven research, please explain how JC was a good hire.

Losing record 3 of 4 years in Mora
Losing record in 1 year inRockford
(Yes, they ran through the playoffs after Stan sent down reinforcements)
Followed by a losing season in Chicago

I hope you don’t hire employees for your company.
- scottak

Well I do, and we are very innovative and push each other and the envelope. And we are very successful.

Honest question....do you think another coach gets more out of this team then what JC has so far?

At the end of the day these are professional athletes and if they aren't putting through the effort then the organization has much larger issues then just firing a coach.

Im not pro or anti JC as of now...I'll still trying to figure out what he TRULY is but I know the team has played a lot better recently just as they did last year when they were out of it......The consistency in getting results, slow starts at times, and home record are my biggest concerns.

Not all on JC.
- SteveRain

Agree. I'm still trying to assess as well and haven't made up my mind which I think Scottak is on the cusp of...but the slow starts were happening under Q too.

The Athletic had a decent article on Colliton the other day that indicated that Colliton's made mistakes and questionable decisions.

What coach hasn't, but it also gave him a thumbs uo for the play of late.

We have a different management philosophy, and that is ok.

Ask just about anybody who has become successful if they have ever failed at any aspect of their journey. Chances are you will get quite a few stories of missteps and blunders.

Edison
Abraham Lincoln
Michael Jordan
Honda
issac Newton.

This is what I tell my employees

Failing is learning
“Just try!”
Initiatives are rewarded; we should be always trying new things
Failing is OK
- LAHawk

Failing once, or a few times can be OK. Failing 5 out of 6 times is a trend.

neither college grades nor unstructured sequential interviews (hopping from office to office) are a good predictor, whereas past performance is.

Based on proven research, please explain how JC was a good hire.

Losing record 3 of 4 years in Mora
Losing record in 1 year inRockford
(Yes, they ran through the playoffs after Stan sent down reinforcements)
Followed by a losing season in Chicago

I hope you don’t hire employees for your company.
- scottak

The Hawks hired him. They were the team of the decade. Players love the way he communicates. He has Crawford to help him. The Hawks young players are doing well. We are a bubble playoff team with minimum $15 million not on the ice every night. The Hawks will bring on a veteran coach if and when they want to. Everyone has heard your opinion 70 times. So you want him fired? You want everyone involved in his hiring fired? You want to do the hiring for the organization? Write Stan because we've heard it enough IMO. There are plenty of coaches available so I do wonder what the brass thinks when guys become available. I think they like Colliton for his ability to communicate with the players

Agree. I'm still trying to assess as well and haven't made up my mind which I think Scottak is on the cusp of...but the slow starts were happening under Q too.

The Athletic had a decent article on Colliton the other day that indicated that Colliton's made mistakes and questionable decisions.

What coach hasn't, but it also gave him a thumbs uo for the play of late.
- HawkintheD

Bruce Boudreau is the coach of the Wild. Been a coach for ages, best player in the AHL when he played. His won loss record is outstanding, except when it comes to seventh games in playoff series. But his resume until then is as good as it gets.

Ovechkin....my goodness

Put this guy in the Gretzky era. The 70s or 60s and he would have even more.

Greatest goal scorer. 40+ goals in 11 seasons and if you add in 32 in the lockout year he has as many 40+ years as Gretzky.

He will break Gretzky's record....IF Ovechkin wants to. It's all on 8 wanting to play. Guy could end up with 60+ goals this year.

We have a different management philosophy, and that is ok.

Ask just about anybody who has become successful if they have ever failed at any aspect of their journey. Chances are you will get quite a few stories of missteps and blunders.

Edison
Abraham Lincoln
Michael Jordan
Honda
issac Newton.

This is what I tell my employees

Failing is learning
“Just try!”
Initiatives are rewarded; we should be always trying new things
Failing is OK
- LAHawk

Agree.

We have a different management philosophy, and that is ok.

Ask just about anybody who has become successful if they have ever failed at any aspect of their journey. Chances are you will get quite a few stories of missteps and blunders.

Edison
Abraham Lincoln
Michael Jordan
Honda
issac Newton.

This is what I tell my employees

Failing is learning
“Just try!”
Initiatives are rewarded; we should be always trying new things
Failing is OK
- LAHawk

WD-40

brutal just brutal...zombie backcheck
- bogiedoc

DOEsnt look like he has a stick!!!!!!!

Agree. I'm still trying to assess as well and haven't made up my mind which I think Scottak is on the cusp of...but the slow starts were happening under Q too.

The Athletic had a decent article on Colliton the other day that indicated that Colliton's made mistakes and questionable decisions.

What coach hasn't, but it also gave him a thumbs uo for the play of late.
- HawkintheD

He is truly learning on the job.....what NHL coach hired is still with the same team? How many teams did Bowman and Q coach respectively?

I am not saying JC is them, but he needs to learn as he goes. This team is a long shot to win a cup even if they get in......so they don't need an elite coach right this second...

I get the argument that JC could interject bad habits into the players and when they are back in their window to win NOW, the more seasoned coach, JC or a more established one, would have to break players of those habits.....see Q in early 2008.

Im just happy these games mean something. I love playoff hockey and we need it back. Good for the development of the players, JC, etc.

Failing once, or a few times can be OK. Failing 5 out of 6 times is a trend.
- scottak

So won/loss record was his only benchmark, as to being predictive of whether he can become a successfull head coach in the NHl?

Exactly. But if he stinks again tonight the Hawks should trade him for a couple 4th line grinders and Cap Space!
- HawkintheD

Even during the glory years he had games like last night. The guy has willed this team to be in somewhat of a playoff race. One bad game and some are looking for some esoteric reasons for it. It happens.

Maybe the other 17 guys on the ice could have picked him up for a change. 5 of the 6 D-men struggled all night trying to do anything positive with the puck. Toews, Kubalik and Caggs were out of sync all night. Saad, Dach and Kane had nothing going before the switch. Strome looked behind the play all night. Dinky continues to have his own personal battle with the puck. Kampf was by far the best layer on that line. (not a good thing)

Aside from an occasional flash from Nylander, Carpenter and Smith were bad. I have no idea what happens to Carpenter when he plays with Smith. But it ain't good.

As good as Crow was last night, that 2nd goal was a stinker. Yet, they kept fighting and picked up a point and were a crossbar away from winning in OT.

Bruce Boudreau is the coach of the Wild. Been a coach for ages, best player in the AHL when he played. His won loss record is outstanding, except when it comes to seventh games in playoff series. But his resume until then is as good as it gets.
- LAHawk

I loved on the NBC feed last night they showed a pic of him as a player for the Hawks where he spent about 8 games.

Q vs Boudreau in a 7 game series ended with the expected outcome. God that was great!

Well I do, and we are very innovative and push each other and the envelope. And we are very successful.
- LAHawk

*applies*

Even during the glory years he had games like last night. The guy has willed this team to be in somewhat of a playoff race. One bad game and some are looking for some esoteric reasons for it. It happens.

Maybe the other 17 guys on the ice could have picked him up for a change. 5 of the 6 D-men struggled all night trying to do anything positive with the puck. Toews, Kubalik and Caggs were out of sync all night. Saad, Dach and Kane had nothing going before the switch. Strome looked behind the play all night. Dinky continues to have his own personal battle with the puck. Kampf was by far the best layer on that line. (not a good thing)

Aside from an occasional flash from Nylander, Carpenter and Smith were bad. I have no idea what happens to Carpenter when he plays with Smith. But it ain't good.

As good as Crow was last night, that 2nd goal was a stinker. Yet, they kept fighting and picked up a point and were a crossbar away from winning in OT.
- Elbows15

For sure. Last night was a clunker. All teams have them and the fact that the Hawks weren't on the wrong side of a laugher after the first period was a good thing.

They battled and found a way to get a point. Two would be better, but to get one where it looked like none was possible is a good thing.

I'll take it and hope for a better effort vs BOS tonite.

Last nights game reminded me lot of the championship years. Hear me out. In the championship years they often would look out played during a high percentage of the game, but in the end they came away with a point or two. I am not saying this is a championship caliber team. But if they picked up a point or two in nights when they were severely outplayed earlier this year like we are doing now we would be in much better position than we are today. If they are able to find a way to get 6 points in their next 6 games they could yet be a playoff team.

After TDL 13 home games (where they have not had a great record) and 10 road games.

But, it does. Would you hire an employee that continually headed up failed projects?
I don’t. I hire people with a demonstrated history of success.
- scottak

You are comparing apples to oranges, Coaches and players aren't the same as office employees, and they cannot be evaluated in the same manner. Just because the coach had a losing record for the season doesn't mean he was necessarily unsuccessful. What if the team was in a retool or rebuild? No one would expect that team to actually compete and have a winning record necessarily, so the powers that be may look at how he is working with the players, how he is developing his schemes, his in game decisions, etc...

He is truly learning on the job.....what NHL coach hired is still with the same team? How many teams did Bowman and Q coach respectively?

I am not saying JC is them, but he needs to learn as he goes. This team is a long shot to win a cup even if they get in......so they don't need an elite coach right this second...

I get the argument that JC could interject bad habits into the players and when they are back in their window to win NOW, the more seasoned coach, JC or a more established one, would have to break players of those habits.....see Q in early 2008.

Im just happy these games mean something. I love playoff hockey and we need it back. Good for the development of the players, JC, etc.
- SteveRain

I think coaches are like defensemen, it takes some time for them to learn and grow into the coach they will be...I would say something like 3 or 4 seasons in the NHL before you truly know what kind of coach they are.

I didn't catch the game last night, but by the looks of this board, we just capped off a 5 game losing streak with an 8 - 0 loss to the Senators.

I didn't catch the game last night, but by the looks of this board, we just capped off a 5 game losing streak with an 8 - 0 loss to the Senators.
- Dieselhead

And the real Rob didn't even make a appearance.