Michael Stuart: Senators Extend Losing Streak to Eight

Go Devils, Kings, and Ducks !

Well, at least San Jose stuck to the script giving up 6 goals in losing to the Coyotes.

Encouraged to hear discussion on Serius 91 suggesting Sharks will be discount sellers starting in the next few weeks.

2020 NHL Mock Draft (Jan 15th)

1) Team 1 - A.L
2) Team 2 - Q. Byfield
3) Team 3 - T. Stützle
4) Team 4 - L. Raymond
5) Ottawa Senators - A. Hotlz
6) Team 6 - J. Drysdale
7) Team 7 - A. Lundell
8) Team 8 - C. Perfetti
9) Ottawa Senators - M. Rossi
10) Team 10 - Y. Askarov

2020 NHL Mock Draft (Jan 15th)

1) Team 1 - A.L
2) Team 2 - Q. Byfield
3) Team 3 - T. Stützle
4) Team 4 - L. Raymond
5) Ottawa Senators - A. Hotlz
6) Team 6 - J. Drysdale
7) Team 7 - A. Lundell
8) Team 8 - C. Perfetti
9) Ottawa Senators - M. Rossi
10) Team 10 - Y. Askarov

dude, Rossi is going way higher than 9th.....I would be blown away if he isn't taken in the top 5......kid is scoring at almost the same pace as Lafreniere, but he's doing it in the OHL, which IMO is more impressive than doing it in the Q......not saying he's better than Lafreniere, just that historically it's harder to put up big offensive numbers in the O than in the Q

Demelo indeed makes everyone he plays with look better. We'll find a way to trade him for nothing.

The radio bozos are annoyed "they" don't know Dorion's plan. I get that, and I'm pleased the Pierre from Orleans is keeping his plans tight and quiet. BUT.

Running out of time to do some of the obvious things. He's waiting to see if he can get first round picks for some of these players at the deadline. It's a dangerous game of chicken.

Well, at least San Jose stuck to the script giving up 6 goals in losing to the Coyotes.

Encouraged to hear discussion on Serius 91 suggesting Sharks will be discount sellers starting in the next few weeks.

It's unlikely any of the their big core get moved, but are there any guys on the team they could move as rentals for decent returns?

Be fun to see Thornton win one.

And they'll have trouble signing Leblanc next seaosn.

dude, Rossi is going way higher than 9th.....I would be blown away if he isn't taken in the top 5......kid is scoring at almost the same pace as Lafreniere, but he's doing it in the OHL, which IMO is more impressive than doing it in the Q......not saying he's better than Lafreniere, just that historically it's harder to put up big offensive numbers in the O than in the Q
- sensarmy_11

Rossi is scoring at a higher rate (Pts/game) than Lafreniere.

Having two picks gives the Sens enormous leverage. Imagine if they are able to add one more first rounder and a second rounder at the trade deadline. Perhaps as many as 7 picks in the top 50.

I think Rossi settles in behind Lafreniere and Byfield in the #3 slot. The only way he gets higher is to lead the 67's to the Memorial Cup and significantly outplay Lafreniere in head to head play.

If the Sens have 2 picks in the 3 to 7 range, they will pick from Rossi, Stutzle, Drysdale, Perfetti, Raymond, Holtz or Lundell.

In that group, my favourites (as a combination) are Rossi and Drysdale. Taking the top ranked Dman in a draft is always a good play. If one of those players were not available, my next choice would be to select Perfetti over Stutzle.

Demelo indeed makes everyone he plays with look better. We'll find a way to trade him for nothing.

The radio bozos are annoyed "they" don't know Dorion's plan. I get that, and I'm pleased the Pierre from Orleans is keeping his plans tight and quiet. BUT.

Running out of time to do some of the obvious things. He's waiting to see if he can get first round picks for some of these players at the deadline. It's a dangerous game of chicken.
- Octavarium

A+

Belleville has moved into first place in the North Division of the AHL.

Josh Norris and Alex Formenton have each scored 20 goals and are tied for 3rd in the AHL goal scoring lead.

Really important for Belleville to have a good Calder run.

Belleville has moved into first place in the North Division of the AHL.

Josh Norris and Alex Formenton have each scored 20 goals and are tied for 3rd in the AHL goal scoring lead.

Really important for Belleville to have a good Calder run.
- spatso

I'm becoming very optimistic in regards to Norris. Love to see him get a look later in he season.

Firmenton is putting up more points as time goes on, when it appeared he could struggle in that regard, even if a lot of his goals are into empty nets.

dude, Rossi is going way higher than 9th.....I would be blown away if he isn't taken in the top 5......kid is scoring at almost the same pace as Lafreniere, but he's doing it in the OHL, which IMO is more impressive than doing it in the Q......not saying he's better than Lafreniere, just that historically it's harder to put up big offensive numbers in the O than in the Q
- sensarmy_11

At this point I would take Raymond or stuetzel over Rossi.

Rossi I could see a team picking him between 4-8 but going 9 isn’t far fetched..this draft is stacked, especially in the top 10.

Not to mention Askarov could go early and throw off the draft selections (maybe the best goalie prospect I’ve seen)

At this point I would take Raymond or stuetzel over Rossi.

Rossi I could see a team picking him between 4-8 but going 9 isn’t far fetched..this draft is stacked, especially in the top 10.

Not to mention Askarov could go early and throw off the draft selections (maybe the best goalie prospect I’ve seen)
- Trilla

I think Askarov will drop, he was absolute poop in the juniors. he got pulled and never got the net again.

I think there will be just enough question marks about him that teams won't use a top 10 pick on him. I bet he goes in the 11-14 range

Would love to see them get Lafreniere and then dangle it to Montreal since the draft is in Montreal. What would they pay? This years' first (still giving Ottawa 2 in the top 10) and what... three more firsts or two more firsts? That type of move would ensure long term success.

Would love to see them get Lafreniere and then dangle it to Montreal since the draft is in Montreal. What would they pay? This years' first (still giving Ottawa 2 in the top 10) and what... three more firsts or two more firsts? That type of move would ensure long term success.
- Earwax

I don't think Montreal has anything to offer that, if I were the GM, would entice me enough to give up Lafrenier......especially when you consider that we would have to play against him 6 times a year

I think Askarov will drop, he was absolute poop in the juniors. he got pulled and never got the net again.

I think there will be just enough question marks about him that teams won't use a top 10 pick on him. I bet he goes in the 11-14 range
- sensarmy_11

Byfield didn’t have a good world juniors, but I don’t think it impacts his draft (maybe pushed to 3rd overall).
I get that forwards are easier to gauge than goalies..but Askarov has the potential to be a superstar goaltender and he’s only 17. He’s the closest thing to Carey price (in terms of buzz and resume we’ve seen)

Byfield didn’t have a good world juniors, but I don’t think it impacts his draft (maybe pushed to 3rd overall).
I get that forwards are easier to gauge than goalies..but Askarov has the potential to be a superstar goaltender and he’s only 17. He’s the closest thing to Carey price (in terms of buzz and resume we’ve seen)
- Trilla

maybe, who knows.....maybe the right team looks at the board and decides he's the best fit for them.....but it would be hard for me to sit there, with all that forward talent (that's much easier to predict) and decide to take a chance on a goalie.

most forwards taken in the top 10 this year are likely in the NHL next season or the season after.........Askarov, depending on the team, probably doesn't sniff the NHL for like 3-4 years. hard to spend a top 10 pick on a guy who probably doesn't really help your team until 2024.

regarding byfield.....it's not that he didn't have a good tournament, it's that he really wasn't given a chance. he was played in extremely limited minutes on the 4th line, which is what Canada almost always does with 17 year olds. Askarov was given the net, in front of a STACKED Russian team, and SUCKED

I don't think Montreal has anything to offer that, if I were the GM, would entice me enough to give up Lafrenier......especially when you consider that we would have to play against him 6 times a year
- sensarmy_11

Let's say Montreal (or another team) draws the second pick and Ottawa gets the first. The San Jose pick ends up being 5th overall.

Without any deals Ottawa would have a good shot of drafting Lafreniere and Rossi (very nice).

But, for the sake of argument, How would you respond if Montreal offered up the second plus two blue chip prospects (eg. Suzuki and Romanov) for the #1 pick.

Would you prefer Lafreniere and Marco Rossi or Byfield, Marco Rossi, Suzuki and Romanov coming from the first day on the draft floor?

Byfield didn’t have a good world juniors, but I don’t think it impacts his draft (maybe pushed to 3rd overall).
I get that forwards are easier to gauge than goalies..but Askarov has the potential to be a superstar goaltender and he’s only 17. He’s the closest thing to Carey price (in terms of buzz and resume we’ve seen)
- Trilla

Taking a goalie that early would set the rebuild back in a material way. It's not just that goalies are harder to predict/project, but also that the marginal value you get out of excellent goaltending compared to average goaltending is relatively small. The gap between elite skaters and depth skaters is immense. If you have a pick that high, spend it where you have the best opportunity to extract marginal value.

There will be no passing on #11.

The opportunity of having a #1C of AL's calibre is almost impossible to acquire via trade. Take the best player available.

First of all, AL is not a 1C, I believe he's winger. Secondly, are we 100% sure he's a generational talent? I remember another 'sure fire' no. 1 called Alexander Daigle that tore up the QMJHL that came back to burn us. I'm just saying, that having more picks gives a better chance of hitting that home run, and if Montreal wants to make a splash at this year's draft and offers up a package that could help for the next 5-10 years, why not take it. lets be honest, Ottawa is going to have a couple of more years like this one before they start to turn it around.

maybe, who knows.....maybe the right team looks at the board and decides he's the best fit for them.....but it would be hard for me to sit there, with all that forward talent (that's much easier to predict) and decide to take a chance on a goalie.

most forwards taken in the top 10 this year are likely in the NHL next season or the season after.........Askarov, depending on the team, probably doesn't sniff the NHL for like 3-4 years. hard to spend a top 10 pick on a guy who probably doesn't really help your team until 2024.

regarding byfield.....it's not that he didn't have a good tournament, it's that he really wasn't given a chance. he was played in extremely limited minutes on the 4th line, which is what Canada almost always does with 17 year olds. Askarov was given the net, in front of a STACKED Russian team, and SUCKED
- sensarmy_11

I’m with you, I wouldn’t take a chance on drafting a goalie in the top 10, but Askarov is the exception to the rule, like price was.

I personally see him going top 10, and if the draft wasn’t so stacked with offensive gems he’d be going top 5 easy

First of all, AL is not a 1C, I believe he's winger. Secondly, are we 100% sure he's a generational talent? I remember another 'sure fire' no. 1 called Alexander Daigle that tore up the QMJHL that came back to burn us. I'm just saying, that having more picks gives a better chance of hitting that home run, and if Montreal wants to make a splash at this year's draft and offers up a package that could help for the next 5-10 years, why not take it. lets be honest, Ottawa is going to have a couple of more years like this one before they start to turn it around.
- Earwax

I agree. It would be dumb not to listen. Montreal will be under huge pressure to make a substantial offer to whichever team gets the #1 pick.

Taking a goalie that early would set the rebuild back in a material way. It's not just that goalies are harder to predict/project, but also that the marginal value you get out of excellent goaltending compared to average goaltending is relatively small. The gap between elite skaters and depth skaters is immense. If you have a pick that high, spend it where you have the best opportunity to extract marginal value.
- Michael_Stuart

I’m not sure if I agree with your point on goaltending. We’ve seen the impact a goalie can make when they play elite (Vas now, Binnington, Anderson). Look at Kuemper’s impact before he went down.

I’m not saying draft him 1st or 2nd overall but if you’re a team like New Jersey or Minnesota or even Ottawa (with their Sj pick), you’re telling me you wouldn’t take the guy that some are saying could be the best goalie prospect since 2006?