Exactly! Okposo is beloved by fans here and likely even more in the locker room. Just not a great contract. If it’s Risto hypothetically getting moved with Cozens Maybe it’s another piece and/or a pick. Hate to give up any of these guys but Kane is the exception.

You guys have been great and the discussion has been very interesting. Kane coming back here would put the Sabres (when healthy) into the discussion as potential contenders coming out of the East. Might need some grit next year though to become serious contenders.

We all know he’s that good!

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Johansson/Mitts-Kane
Vesey-Mitts/Johansson-Sheary
Girgensons-Larson-Frolik

Risto-McCabe
Montour-Miller
Jokiharju-Bogosian

PP 1
Reinhart-Eichel-Kane
?-Risto

PP 2
Skinner-Johansson-Olofsson
Miller-Montour

Thanks again Hawks fans.
- Forged In Buffalo

Even with that, your goaltending as currently constructed gets you nowhere

If Kane asks to be traded, that doesn't mean Stan has to trade him. If he is going after records, he won't do it by sitting out or not trying on the ice. Even if Kane wanted to go back to Buffalo, the package suggested is underwhelming to me, and doesn't fit IMO with the assets the Hawks need going forward. Why if we are rebuilding would we wnat Opkoso's contract at $6mil. for 3 more years? That is dead money. Hawks aren't a cash strapped team that needs a higher cap hit than cash paid out.
- LAHawk

Right - I was saying it was more likely that Kane would ask to be traded once StanBo is gone because of his own loyalty to Stan, and that a new GM without the loyalty to the core would be more likely to ask Kane to waive.

I also hope you didn't think I was implying the Kane demeanor was him phoning it in. What I see is repeated frustration (glares, barking at teammates, head shaking) than I've seen before. Too many of his near perfect setups for goals are getting missed/bobbled because of the people with whom he has been matched with this year.

Exactly! Okposo is beloved by fans here and likely even more in the locker room. Just not a great contract. If it’s Risto hypothetically getting moved with Cozens Maybe it’s another piece and/or a pick. Hate to give up any of these guys but Kane is the exception.

You guys have been great and the discussion has been very interesting. Kane coming back here would put the Sabres (when healthy) into the discussion as potential contenders coming out of the East. Might need some grit next year though to become serious contenders.

We all know he’s that good!

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Johansson/Mitts-Kane
Vesey-Mitts/Johansson-Sheary
Girgensons-Larson-Frolik

Risto-McCabe
Montour-Miller
Jokiharju-Bogosian

PP 1
Reinhart-Eichel-Kane
?-Risto

PP 2
Skinner-Johansson-Olofsson
Miller-Montour

Thanks again Hawks fans.
- Forged In Buffalo

I can see the logic in there being pieces that could be in play to make a trade but I don't think Buffalo would trade Dahlin and I don't see Kane waiving his NTC anytime soon. I think it's more likely that once his contract is up (if the Hawks are in rebuild mode) that he signs with the Sabres to be that final high end veteran player to help try and put them over the top.

It would be VERY intriguing to consider a Dahlin, Cozen, Okposo, + deal for Kane though. Those are two high end pieces that you would want/need to come back in a deal for him. If the Hawks could somehow pry away Mittelstadt or Thompson along with some draft capital it'd be something you'd have to think long and hard about

Exactly! Okposo is beloved by fans here and likely even more in the locker room. Just not a great contract. If it’s Risto hypothetically getting moved with Cozens Maybe it’s another piece and/or a pick. Hate to give up any of these guys but Kane is the exception.

You guys have been great and the discussion has been very interesting. Kane coming back here would put the Sabres (when healthy) into the discussion as potential contenders coming out of the East. Might need some grit next year though to become serious contenders.

We all know he’s that good!

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Johansson/Mitts-Kane
Vesey-Mitts/Johansson-Sheary
Girgensons-Larson-Frolik

Risto-McCabe
Montour-Miller
Jokiharju-Bogosian

PP 1
Reinhart-Eichel-Kane
?-Risto

PP 2
Skinner-Johansson-Olofsson
Miller-Montour

Thanks again Hawks fans.
- Forged In Buffalo

Very interesting to consider, but as noted, it would be very difficult to actually get any deal like that done. The one question that I do have on this is "does Kane actually have any desire to play for Buffalo". I know he is from there, but does that matter to him at all?

On a side note... ignoring what you gave up for him, how do you think Jokiharju has actually played for Buffalo?

Stan Bowman meeting the media right now for anyone interested

Stan Bowman meeting the media right now for anyone interested
- Savetheembers33

Is he announcing the hiring of Lavy?

Is he announcing the hiring of Lavy?
- mohel

Ha status quo.

Parts I was able to catch while at work...

Shaw hasn't been ruled out this year. Depends on how he progresses.

Spoke about how Michal Teply is a guy who impressed him as far as prospects go.

Keeping an eye on the play of the team and the trade market since they're in the thick of things. Not thinking about the past few seasons of missing the Playoffs. Focused on this year. Hoping they can build on their recent success

No comment on contract extensions with Strome, Lehenr, Gus, etc.

Likes what he's seen from Ian Mitchell so far this year. Been communicating with him. Wishes he was with the Hawks now, but understands staying committed to Denver and wanting to help them win.

Right - I was saying it was more likely that Kane would ask to be traded once StanBo is gone because of his own loyalty to Stan, and that a new GM without the loyalty to the core would be more likely to ask Kane to waive.

I also hope you didn't think I was implying the Kane demeanor was him phoning it in. What I see is repeated frustration (glares, barking at teammates, head shaking) than I've seen before. Too many of his near perfect setups for goals are getting missed/bobbled because of the people with whom he has been matched with this year.
- pdx2ord

I always wonder about the first point. IMO, unless he has a VERY close relationship with Stan, I think there are several other factors that would be weighed before asking to be traded.

To the second point, I think everyone on the team has the same look on their face from what I've seen. It's frustration over the fact they know they are not as good as they were. Toews , Keith, and even Crawford have been much testier. Kane spent a good amount of time on a line with ADB (with whom he'd had a lot of chemistry/success) and that didn't go well. I think anything consistent would be a welcome addition.

It would be interesting to get an honest answer from Kane on both of these, but he seems so focused on getting this team over the hump, that I don't see him going anywhere for the duration of his contract

I can see the logic in there being pieces that could be in play to make a trade but I don't think Buffalo would trade Dahlin and I don't see Kane waiving his NTC anytime soon. I think it's more likely that once his contract is up (if the Hawks are in rebuild mode) that he signs with the Sabres to be that final high end veteran player to help try and put them over the top.

Agreed. Most likely situation.

It would be VERY intriguing to consider a Dahlin, Cozen, Okposo, + deal for Kane though. Those are two high end pieces that you would want/need to come back in a deal for him. If the Hawks could somehow pry away Mittelstadt or Thompson along with some draft capital it'd be something you'd have to think long and hard about
- Savetheembers33

Ahhh to be GM for a day! Don’t think I’d give up both Cozens and Mitts. But would trade Mitts in place of Cozens. Also think Tage has an exciting skill set if and when he breaks out. Sure. Olgivie? Can’t forget to mention the goalie of the future, Ukko-Pekka Luukkenon.

Can’t give up all these nice prospects but there are options.

Nylander in, Highmore out, Crow starting, and Gilbert took a puck off the foot during the morning skate, but is apparently ok.

Unlikely, but then again, Gretzky got traded...
- Davewn

a lot of context and background to this trade...this was not a "hockey" trade

gretsky was going to be free agent,the oiler owner was cash strapped and gretsky wanted and oked the trade...

as gretsky said he wasn't traded but sold...

https://www.cbc.ca/sports...a-in-1988-trade-1.2791960

https://www.nhl.com/news/...-28-years-ago/c-281301452

if kane want's to go somewhere else i have no doubt the hawks will accomodate...other than that scenario i don't see him playing anywhere else...

Stan Bowman meeting the media right now for anyone interested
- Savetheembers33

we like our team..if it wasn't for the all the injuries we are fighting for the division...

interview over...

Very interesting to consider, but as noted, it would be very difficult to actually get any deal like that done. The one question that I do have on this is "does Kane actually have any desire to play for Buffalo". I know he is from there, but does that matter to him at all?

On a side note... ignoring what you gave up for him, how do you think Jokiharju has actually played for Buffalo?
- Chunk

Good point. He may not want to. Not sur. He has been loyal to the Hawks. I know he has or at least had until recently a great property just outside Buffalo. Also believe he would be welcomed back.

General consensus is that he (Jokiharju) has played well enough that he can’t be sent down to Roch. I’d agree. Scored a nice goal the other night. Reason why Scandella needed to be moved and Bogo is asking for more ice time. Can’t blame either.

Ahhh to be GM for a day! Don’t think I’d give up both Cozens and Mitts. But would trade Mitts in place of Cozens. Also think Tage has an exciting skill set if and when he breaks out. Sure. Olgivie? Can’t forget to mention the goalie of the future, Ukko-Pekka Luukkenon.

Can’t give up all these nice prospects but there are options.
- Forged In Buffalo

Ha yeah it would be fun...we for a second...then half the town would wanna throw you on your a$$ and kick ya outta town

we like our team..if it wasn't for the all the injuries we are fighting for the division...

interview over...
- bogiedoc

Close enough

Good point. He may not want to. Not sur. He has been loyal to the Hawks. I know he has or at least had until recently a great property just outside Buffalo. Also believe he would be welcomed back.

General consensus is that he (Jokiharju) has played well enough that he can’t be sent down to Roch. I’d agree. Scored a nice goal the other night. Reason why Scandella needed to be moved and Bogo is asking for more ice time. Can’t blame either.
- Forged In Buffalo

Thanks for the feedback. I watched about 5-6 games at the beginning of the year, and he looked like he was handling the forecheck better than last year. He still seemed a little hesitant to jump into the play on offense.

From what you said, it seems like he would just be another guy in our mix here. Oh well, all part of the fun. Cheers!

Nylander in, Highmore out, Crow starting, and Gilbert took a puck off the foot during the morning skate, but is apparently ok.
- Chunk

Too bad about Gilbert / Career AHLer and would have been no loss for him to sit.
WTF does Gus have on Colliton that he never sees the press box, regardless of his poopty play?

Coo Coo has some of the best analytics (especially the CooCoo/Murphy pairing) yet he gets in for the odd game and then sits forever. I'm sure he can't wait to GTF out of here, gotta be hard seeing a guys like Gilbert & Gus playing all the time when their play has honestly been crap.

And also, HTF does Gus see the ice in the last 5 minutes of any period of hockey?
Colliton is really clueless when it comes to bench management.

Nylander in, Highmore out, Crow starting, and Gilbert took a puck off the foot during the morning skate, but is apparently ok.
- Chunk

Let's see what/if anything Nylander has learned from his benching

Too bad about Gilbert / Career AHLer and would have been no loss for him to sit.
WTF does Gus have on Colliton that he never sees the press box, regardless of his poopty play?

Coo Coo has some of the best analytics (especially the CooCoo/Murphy pairing) yet he gets in for the odd game and then sits forever. I'm sure he can't wait to GTF out of here, gotta be hard seeing a guys like Gilbert & Gus playing all the time when their play has honestly been crap.

And also, HTF does Gus see the ice in the last 5 minutes of any period of hockey?
Colliton is really clueless when it comes to bench management.
- savvyone-1

I think they like Gilbert because he will actually engage physically. Murphy is the only other one that really does that.

I've got nothing on Gus. I have no idea other than the possibility of them trying to prop him up to trade him. He is laughable defensively. KKKKIs not a bad player. He's not great, but he plays a solid enough game. We are never going to be mistaken for NSH as far as defensive depth, but we have better options than Gus.

Let's see what/if anything Nylander has learned from his benching
- Savetheembers33

If anything, I hope he saw the effort that both Highmore and Sikura play with every shift. If he brought that (and a bit more of a shoot-first mentality) I think he would be a very nice player for this team.

Too bad about Gilbert / Career AHLer and would have been no loss for him to sit.
WTF does Gus have on Colliton that he never sees the press box, regardless of his poopty play?

Coo Coo has some of the best analytics (especially the CooCoo/Murphy pairing) yet he gets in for the odd game and then sits forever. I'm sure he can't wait to GTF out of here, gotta be hard seeing a guys like Gilbert & Gus playing all the time when their play has honestly been crap.

And also, HTF does Gus see the ice in the last 5 minutes of any period of hockey?
Colliton is really clueless when it comes to bench management.
- savvyone-1

Let's hope Gus is playing because they are trying to move him and want to keep him in the lineup to retain the little trade value that he has.

If they move Gus they only have 6 healthy dmen. So K4 should get plenty of playing time.

Fox, if they are down to 6 healthy dmen who would you bring up from the Rock?

Let's hope Gus is playing because they are trying to move him and want to keep him in the lineup to retain the little trade value that he has.

If they move Gus they only have 6 healthy dmen. So K4 should get plenty of playing time.

Fox, if they are down to 6 healthy dmen who would you bring up from the Rock?
- -Doh-

Holm... oh, wait. Likely Carlsson is my guess. Fox has sung his praises most of the year for his overall game. That said, I'll let Theo actually answer.

[quote=Chunk]I think they like Gilbert because he will actually engage physically. Murphy is the only other one that really does that.

Yep. Gilbert may get better. He is only 23 and has improved since he was called up. But he can be hard to watch. He has the same kind of attitude as say a Shaw or Bolland. That is worth something. Unfortunately he is not as skilled as Shaw and Bolland and should be playing 3rd pairing minutes until Mitchell, Beaudin and our other prospects are ready.

I think they like Gilbert because he will actually engage physically. Murphy is the only other one that really does that.

I've got nothing on Gus. I have no idea other than the possibility of them trying to prop him up to trade him. He is laughable defensively. KKKKIs not a bad player. He's not great, but he plays a solid enough game. We are never going to be mistaken for NSH as far as defensive depth, but we have better options than Gus.
- Chunk

I've become a fan of Gilbert. Don't think he's a career AHLer like some but he could definitely find a niche as 7th/3rd Pairing D-Man. His physicallity is something that no one else really brings to the team and he's improved since being called up. That's all ya can ask for a kid who's getting his first taste in the NHL. We'll see what he can do going forward.

As far as Gus goes, he'll will play because of his offensive ability. That's it. Now, with Boqvist coming up and starting to gain confidence his role is going to get reduced slowly but surely until he is either traded or he leaves in FA this summer.

I've become a fan of Gilbert. Don't think he's a career AHLer like some but he could definitely find a niche as 7th/3rd Pairing D-Man. His physicallity is something that no one else really brings to the team and he's improved since being called up. That's all ya can ask for a kid who's getting his first taste in the NHL. We'll see what he can do going forward.

As far as Gus goes, he'll will play because of his offensive ability. That's it. Now, with Boqvist coming up and starting to gain confidence his role is going to get reduced slowly but surely until he is either traded or he leaves in FA this summer.
- Savetheembers33

Im in the same camp as you. I see Gilbert make a difference and I don't think he is as bad as people here are saying. Then again, there were some justifying Marcus Kruger on here for years.