Karine Hains: No Smoke Without Fire? Hockey Twitter is full of chatter about a possible trade between the Canadiens and the Flyers, could this be the solution for the Habs' blue line woes?

Karine
Hains: No Smoke Without Fire?
Hockey Twitter is full of chatter about a possible trade between the Canadiens and the Flyers, could this be the solution for the Habs' blue line woes?
- Karine Hains

For reason you outlined, not sure Gostisbehere is the answer.

At best he is a 4-5 guy, not a homerun top 2 that moves people down the ladder to solidify a deeper / better d-corps.

And I suspect it will be an overpay to get him w/ an albatross contract for 4 more years.

Ghost for Alzner.

Get it done Marc.

From what I read Bergevin is not willing to part with any of his blue chip prospects and if that's the case an overpaid Ghost is what he will get in return.
Top 4 D men come at a price!

For reason you outlined, not sure Gostisbehere is the answer.

At best he is a 4-5 guy, not a homerun top 2 that moves people down the ladder to solidify a deeper / better d-corps.

And I suspect it will be an overpay to get him w/ an albatross contract for 4 more years.
- Mashadar

you are negative about it

Surprising

For reason you outlined, not sure Gostisbehere is the answer.

At best he is a 4-5 guy, not a homerun top 2 that moves people down the ladder to solidify a deeper / better d-corps.

And I suspect it will be an overpay to get him w/ an albatross contract for 4 more years.
- Mashadar

Maybe Weber can straighten him out?

I dunno though..

Ghost for Alzner.

Get it done Marc.
- jugkope

Not enough

Alzner and Japanese noodle

You know he has a ton of talent. It's not like the Flyers have been contenders with great overall play on both sides of the puck AND with horrible goal tending before this year.

He may just need a change of scenery. It's what MB is willing to give/take to get him.

You know he has a ton of talent. It's not like the Flyers have been contenders with great overall play on both sides of the puck AND with horrible goal tending before this year.

He may just need a change of scenery. It's what MB is willing to give/take to get him.
- Snots33_77

I don't think he is what they need but that just my opinion. Not worth the assets required, look else where and pass on grossetitebiere

You know he has a ton of talent. It's not like the Flyers have been contenders with great overall play on both sides of the puck AND with horrible goal tending before this year.

He may just need a change of scenery. It's what MB is willing to give/take to get him.
- Snots33_77

I mean he not old, he had a 65 point season, or a 17 goals rookie season...

For sure he a ton better than Kulak...so I would be very interested

I mean he not old, he had a 65 point season, or a 17 goals rookie season...

For sure he a ton better than Kulak...so I would be very interested
- Xizord

he's often a liability defensively, that's why they benched him a few times. There is a reason he was -20 last year, he is a PP specialist that struggles to defend. Something like Petry but worse. He is also 26yrs old so not a kid, he is in his prime right now

I mean he not old, he had a 65 point season, or a 17 goals rookie season...

For sure he a ton better than Kulak...so I would be very interested
- Xizord

I'm ok with it only if MB doesn't get stupid and/or desperate. We weren't supposed to be good this year, don't rush it. But if you can fleece another team and Ghost settles in and improves.....could be a decent addition.

I'd rather us sink down in the standings this year and reap some benefits from a super deep draft that's held in Montreal.

you are negative about it

Surprising
- Xizord

I just don't see this as an upgrade, that simple.

Either the Habs empty the cupboards and trade prospects and picks away to make huge improvements to the line up that will be beneficial not only this year, but 3-4-5years down the line, or they trade vets like Weber and Tatar (etc..) and go all in on a rebuilt.

All MB has managed to do is spend the first 6 years throwing mediocre 3-4th liners and bottom feeder D men into the line-up, and somehow giving up good picks while doing that - to get nowhere (and waste 6 years of Price and screwing up Galchenyuk's development). The last 2 years he has sat around collecting b level prospects and picks while refusing to either go full build or improve the team (and now in the process of (frank)ing up KK's development).

The Habs just don't have the talent or top end players that are (1) young and (2) can carry a team while re-tooling on the fly.

So my point is Gostisbehere is not part of the answer, unless there is a fundamental shift in the direction of the team.

I just don't see that happening w/ MB at the helm.

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I just don't see this as an upgrade, that simple.

Either the Habs empty the cupboards and trade prospects and picks away to make huge improvements to the line up that will be beneficial not only this year, but 3-4-5years down the line, or they trade vets like Weber and Tatar (etc..) and go all in on a rebuilt.

All MB has managed to do is spend the first 6 years throwing mediocre 3-4th liners and bottom feeder D men into the line-up, and somehow giving up good picks while doing that - to get nowhere (and waste 6 years of Price and screwing up Galchenyuk's development). The last 2 years he has sat around collecting b level prospects and picks while refusing to either go full build or improve the team (and now in the process of (frank)ing up KK's development).

The Habs just don't have the talent or top end players that are (1) young and (2) can carry a team while re-tooling on the fly.

So my point is Gostisbehere is not part of the answer, unless there is a fundamental shift in the direction of the team.

I just don't see that happening w/ MB at the helm.

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- Mashadar

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I don't think he is what they need but that just my opinion. Not worth the assets required, look else where and pass on grossetitebiere
- Symba007

So it Gostibesomewherelse?

depends on the price of course, but if they can have him for cheap, go for it!
dmen able to score 65 points don't come around too often. who care if he's a liability in the dzone, so is Reilly and all the others we've tried so far. he also has a decent contract for the next few years.

So it Gostibesomewherelse?
- pete26

GostaritePete

depends on the price of course, but if they can have him for cheap, go for it!
dmen able to score 65 points don't come around too often. who care if he's a liability in the dzone, so is Reilly and all the others we've tried so far. he also has a decent contract for the next few years.
- fidopro

if the cost is a Brook or a Poehling......(frank) that.

if the cost is a Brook or a Poehling......(frank) that.
- Symba007

of course

if the cost is a Brook or a Poehling......(frank) that.
- Symba007

What if it cost Alzner and a 2nd?

Also, how close is Philly to the cap Cliffy?

What if it cost Alzner and a 2nd?

Also, how close is Philly to the cap Cliffy?
- pete26

right against the cap

right against the cap
- Symba007

Oh, then that's a factor too.

So no Alzner then..

Oh, then that's a factor too.

So no Alzner then..
- pete26

Alzner and Ghost have similar cap hits right?

Alzner and Ghost have similar cap hits right?
- jugkope

How the hell would I know?

I just don't see this as an upgrade, that simple.

Either the Habs empty the cupboards and trade prospects and picks away to make huge improvements to the line up that will be beneficial not only this year, but 3-4-5years down the line, or they trade vets like Weber and Tatar (etc..) and go all in on a rebuilt.

All MB has managed to do is spend the first 6 years throwing mediocre 3-4th liners and bottom feeder D men into the line-up, and somehow giving up good picks while doing that - to get nowhere (and waste 6 years of Price and screwing up Galchenyuk's development). The last 2 years he has sat around collecting b level prospects and picks while refusing to either go full build or improve the team (and now in the process of (frank)ing up KK's development).

The Habs just don't have the talent or top end players that are (1) young and (2) can carry a team while re-tooling on the fly.

So my point is Gostisbehere is not part of the answer, unless there is a fundamental shift in the direction of the team.

I just don't see that happening w/ MB at the helm.

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- Mashadar

Yes, we have plenty of 65 pts defenseman

Petry is the perfect example of why this trade COULD be good, he was struggling in Edm and was said to be terrible liability...look at how that worked out