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HockeyBuzz Wire
Joined: 01.22.2009

Nov 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Wire: Bortuzzo suspended four games
Nucker101
Location: #FreePierre
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 24 @ 5:38 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Wire: Bortuzzo suspended four games
- hockeybuzz_wire

well deserved


that was gutless, let the guy get up if you wanna rough him up
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Nov 24 @ 6:19 PM ET
After that exact cross check wasn't a penalty when the Preds did it, it was suddenly enough to gives the Preds a 5 on 3. Arvidsson sold it, laying on the ice like he was shot, until he knows he got the call then magically able to start getting up no problem.

Does that make it ok for Bortuzzo to give the second cross check? Nope. He deserves his 4 game suspension. Just because the officials were bending the Blues over and Arvidsson sold a call doesn't excuse that second cross check where Bortuzzo thinks he'll get his money's worth.
GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
As a Blues fan, I’m not going to complain about the 4 games. But how did Foligno only get 3 games recently for a flying elbow that knocked the snot out of Bellamare?
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:51 PM ET
I'd say no, it's not enough but worse has been done and received less.
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:29 PM ET
After that exact cross check wasn't a penalty when the Preds did it, it was suddenly enough to gives the Preds a 5 on 3. Arvidsson sold it, laying on the ice like he was shot, until he knows he got the call then magically able to start getting up no problem.

Does that make it ok for Bortuzzo to give the second cross check? Nope. He deserves his 4 game suspension. Just because the officials were bending the Blues over and Arvidsson sold a call doesn't excuse that second cross check where Bortuzzo thinks he'll get his money's worth.
-Antilles

"Nashville Predators forward Viktor Arvidsson will miss four to six weeks after hurting his lower body when cross-checked during the first period of Saturday night’s 4-2 win over St. Louis."

https://www.tsn.ca/viktor...ing-cross-check-1.1403008

I don't ever want to hear about homer-ism in non-traditional markets again. StL fan is being ridiculous here.
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Nov 24 @ 11:33 PM ET
After that exact cross check wasn't a penalty when the Preds did it, it was suddenly enough to gives the Preds a 5 on 3. Arvidsson sold it, laying on the ice like he was shot, until he knows he got the call then magically able to start getting up no problem.

Does that make it ok for Bortuzzo to give the second cross check? Nope. He deserves his 4 game suspension. Just because the officials were bending the Blues over and Arvidsson sold a call doesn't excuse that second cross check where Bortuzzo thinks he'll get his money's worth.

- Antilles




Ref had his arm up right away. It was a cross checking penalty FOR SURE, 4 game suspension tho ???????
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Nov 24 @ 11:52 PM ET
"Nashville Predators forward Viktor Arvidsson will miss four to six weeks after hurting his lower body when cross-checked during the first period of Saturday night’s 4-2 win over St. Louis."

https://www.tsn.ca/viktor...ing-cross-check-1.1403008

I don't ever want to hear about homer-ism in non-traditional markets again. StL fan is being ridiculous here.

- yzermaneely


I think he’s referring to the first cross-check which was clearly a dive. The second cross-check is where the injury occurred.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Nov 24 @ 11:54 PM ET
"Nashville Predators forward Viktor Arvidsson will miss four to six weeks after hurting his lower body when cross-checked during the first period of Saturday night’s 4-2 win over St. Louis."

https://www.tsn.ca/viktor...ing-cross-check-1.1403008

I don't ever want to hear about homer-ism in non-traditional markets again. StL fan is being ridiculous here.

- yzermaneely


This sort of comment is exactly why people insult fans in non-traditional markets. Arvidsson was fine after the first cross check. He acted like his head hit the cross bar, but it pretty clearly missed as shown by the side camera angle.

Arvidsson is out with a lower body injury, which (obviously to anyone who actually watched the play) occurred when Bortuzzo cross checked him much harder, the second time.

At least watch the play before commenting next time. Bortuzzo lightly cross checked, Arvidsson embellished, Bortuzzo cross-checked again but much harder, Arvidsson got hurt.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Nov 24 @ 11:58 PM ET


Ref had his arm up right away. It was a cross checking penalty FOR SURE, 4 game suspension tho ???????

- Udogs


The first cross check wasn't a penalty at any other point in the game, despite happening quite a few times.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Nov 25 @ 8:48 AM ET

The league got it right.
copelal
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Baltimore, MD
Joined: 03.12.2014

Nov 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
Cross Checking is illegal on its face. If the ref, using his discretion, decides to call or not call a penalty, that's up to him. Once the player has committed a cross-check, however, to complain that the ref didn't call it some other time is just stupid. If you don't want to get called, don't do it in the first place.

The thing I'm puzzled about is that, per the League's video, the second cross-check was "not a hockey play"... so therefore it would seem intent to injure would apply here = match penalty. Bortuzzo got suspended and the Preds won the game anyway, so nothing lost there, I suppose.

As for the length of the suspension - since Bortuzzo had a track record, and the injury occurred from non-hockey play, I think Bortuzzo got off easy.
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: MURFREESBORO, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Nov 25 @ 10:54 AM ET
All these idiot Blues fans whining about embellishment (it wasn't) to justify an intent to injure (obviously). I knew they didn't have any class, I just didn't know they would prove it so often.

He should be out until Arvy comes back.
camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Nov 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
Man are Preds fans simple!
Antilles commented above as to what actually happened. Arvidson feels stick to back- flops like a fish pretending to hit his head on crossbar going down(he dove)
Bozo the clown didn't like the fact that he was receiving a penalty for that(i totally see his frustration over this) Bozo then puts the lumber to arvidson's back(which is when the injury occured)
I get Bozo's frustration. However as also stated above, Do not take the chance that the Zebras will be consistent(never going to happen). What he did out of frustration is unacceptable and in my opinion he got off easy for the suspension.
But how can you not clearly see exactly what happened with that play?
93Cup
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
Joined: 07.19.2019

Nov 25 @ 2:01 PM ET
Bortuzzo, the GOON, should have been suspended for at least 20 games. A disgusting deliberate attack to sustain injury isn't part of hockey and this fact needs to be thoroughly ingrained in every player's mind.
Squatchy
Nashville Predators
Location: Clarksville, TN
Joined: 05.09.2018

Nov 26 @ 12:23 PM ET
It doesn't matter if Arvidsson dived or sold the cross-check or not, I don't care if he recited a scene from Hamlet on the way to the ice, it doesn't justify what Betuzzo did after the fact. Not all of them mind you, but some Blues fans are trying to do exactly that. There's been a couple of idiots on our message boards gleefully squealing about it. Standing by your player is fine when they do something stupid, but there is no defending a player intentionally trying to injure another, and this was a clear attempt at that by a repeat offender. If he had such a problem with what he perceived as a dive, there are plenty of legal ways to get your receipt throughout the game that isn't deliberately threatening somebody's livelihood. This bozo would obviously rather take a cheap shot at the guy when he can't defend himself.
BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 26 @ 3:13 PM ET
I'd take Bortuzzo the Clown on the Bruins tomorrow
I think most Teams in the League could use a guy like this.

But ya 4 games seems ok.
Nucker101
Location: #FreePierre
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
I'd take Bortuzzo the Clown on the Bruins tomorrow
I think most Teams in the League could use a guy like this.

But ya 4 games seems ok.

- BruinBlood

Watching that video probably gave the Bruins fans and management a half chub

If it was Simmonds or Subban instead of Arvidsson, Bortuzzo would be a Bruin right now.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 26 @ 3:43 PM ET
Bortuzzo also has a history of being a goon, particularly with crosschecks. Back in March he got Malkin in the ribs with this nasty one that was not even called on the ice, nor did it receive any supplemental discipline:

https://www.dkpittsburghs...jury-bortuzzo-crosscheck/

Malkin was out for a while. Also, back when he was a Penguin, he got Jagr with a head shot:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...rves-Suspension/177/64494
Manthamania
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ST Clair Shores, MI
Joined: 02.14.2017

Nov 28 @ 8:59 PM ET
Bortuzzo should get 8-10 games for the brutal cross-check to a man on the ground. Regardless of the initial call he blatantly laid the lumber to his lower back and I’m sure the injury is knee-related when you watch how he’s bent. Scum-bag move but he won’t learn
Leaping Liz
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sagamore Hills, OH
Joined: 12.04.2018

Nov 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
The league got it right.
- bcallaway



So, intent to injure Bertuzzo is only one game more than spitting on a player. And elbow to the head, that results in concussion to a #1 draft choice in 2018 is one game LESS than spitting on a player. Burtuzzo should be 10 to 15 and Cernak should be 8 to 10. Just the facts and the injuries should have impact on suspension. So NO way did the league get it right. Too biased!!!
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
So, intent to injure Bertuzzo is only one game more than spitting on a player. And elbow to the head, that results in concussion to a #1 draft choice in 2018 is one game LESS than spitting on a player. Burtuzzo should be 10 to 15 and Cernak should be 8 to 10. Just the facts and the injuries should have impact on suspension. So NO way did the league get it right. Too biased!!!
- Leaping Liz


I totally agree. It is a shame that players have to "build up a reputation" (i.e. create path of damage) before the league will dish out serious suspensions. Cernak especially should have gotten a lot more but he doesn't have a reputation yet.