Kinda surprised Petan cleared waivers.

I understand why the Leafs don't have a roster spot for him as we have cornered the market on small, soft, skill/finesse forwards but if you're a team that needs some skilled forward depth (Edmonton?) I thought he'd be worth a look....
- poopstash

Most teams don't seem to want many toddlers

Most teams don't seem to want many toddlers
- walshyleafsfan

I don't know, I think Petan's as tall as your average 6th grade student.. I wouldn't call him a toddler..

At least he's hitting the net with it, though.

Everyone else is either missing the net or hitting the first pair of shin guards on the way.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Admit it. You miss the days of Neon Dion blasting chin-high clappers that either:

1. break joffrey lupul's arm
2. miss the net two feet wide and two feet high

Gotta find a way to be in better position. Give Andersen a break once in a while.

Admit it. You miss the days of Neon Dion blasting chin-high clappers that either:

1. break joffrey lupul's arm
2. miss the net two feet wide and two feet high
- poopstash

Barrie deserves a chance on PP1.. If Babs expects him to play in a more defensive role by pairing him with Muzzin and not giving him PP1 time, then Dubas may have traded for the wrong guy..

Have to play him to his strengths.

Barrie deserves a chance on PP1.. If Babs expects him to play in a more defensive role by pairing him with Muzzin and not giving him PP1 time, then Dubas may have traded for the wrong guy..

Have to play him to his strengths.
- PatC80

It was a very strange trade. And it does seem that Babcock and Dubas are not on the same page. If true it is not a the best way to go for the franchise.

It was a very strange trade. And it does seem that Babcock and Dubas are not on the same page. If true it is not a the best way to go for the franchise.
- aminnes

I can’t wait for the day that Babs is fired and Keefe is hired.

Don Cherry was right, stupid Leafs took willie instead of Richie
- senstroll

of course Don Cherry was wrong - that's a given.

but the beauty is that now Dubas - if he has the cohones to do it (questionable) can trade Nylander for Richie and a whole lot more...

but that would require Dubas recognizing that Nylander is a luxury he doesn't need.

I can’t wait for the day that Babs is fired and Keefe is hired.
- Steven_Seagull

you will be waiting a while....

Most teams don't seem to want many toddlers
- walshyleafsfan

there's that whole short thing I been talking about again...

Toddler...

of course Don Cherry was wrong - that's a given.

but the beauty is that now Dubas - if he has the cohones to do it (questionable) can trade Nylander for Richie and a whole lot more...

but that would require Dubas recognizing that Nylander is a luxury he doesn't need.


- BorjeFan4Ever

Well, Ritchie did play for the Greyhounds. Dubas kind of guy.

you will be waiting a while....
- BorjeFan4Ever

Well, Ritchie did play for the Greyhounds. Dubas kind of guy.
- Steven_Seagull

that may be true... but he's also more than 5'10" which I believe rules him out of Dubas weird stats

that may be true... but he's also more than 5'10" which I believe rules him out of Dubas weird stats
- BorjeFan4Ever

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I can’t wait for the day that Babs is fired and Keefe is hired.
- Steven_Seagull

that is and always will be a Shanahan decision when and if it happens.

I doubt that Shanahan would actually allow Dubas to internally give Babcock the heave-ho.

and if Dubas hasn't had enough tenure as of yet to be judged by the teams results... then he hasn't earned the right to judge the coach ... particularly this coach.

that may be true... but he's also more than 5'10" which I believe rules him out of Dubas weird stats
- BorjeFan4Ever

New players dubas added this summer that are playing on the leafs

Shore 6’ 1””
Mikheyev 6 3”
Spezza 6’ 3”
Barrie 5’ 11”
Kerfoot 5’ 10”


So yeah, just complaining to complain.

New players dubas added this summer that are playing on the leafs

Shore 6’ 1””
Mikheyev 6 3”
Spezza 6’ 3”
Barrie 5’ 11”
Kerfoot 5’ 10”


So yeah, just complaining to complain.
- Santo_44

But but Petan...

that is and always will be a Shanahan decision when and if it happens.

I doubt that Shanahan would actually allow Dubas to internally give Babcock the heave-ho.

and if Dubas hasn't had enough tenure as of yet to be judged by the teams results... then he hasn't earned the right to judge the coach ... particularly this coach.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I never mentioned Dubas. I just want Babs fired. Keefe would guide the Leafs to a Championship like he did with the Marlies.

But but Petan...
- Steven_Seagull

Leaf fans are nuts.

They will never be happy.

Barrie deserves a chance on PP1.. If Babs expects him to play in a more defensive role by pairing him with Muzzin and not giving him PP1 time, then Dubas may have traded for the wrong guy..

Have to play him to his strengths.
- PatC80

Barrie has been horrific and deserves nothing.

I get that a PP promotion may benefit him, but the powerplay itself has been disastrous. I don't see how adding a guy who hasn't scored a single goal and has been prone to giving up shorthanded rushes on the 2nd unit is going to do the team any favours...

Barrie has been horrific and deserves nothing.

I get that a PP promotion may benefit him, but the powerplay itself has been disastrous. I don't see how adding a guy who hasn't scored a single goal and has been prone to giving up shorthanded rushes on the 2nd unit is going to do the team any favours...
- joel878

It's all part of the new plan. After Marner had a breakout season paired with Tavares he was able to rake Dubas over the coals in contract negotiations.

By pairing Barrie with Muzzin and forcing him to play in a role he's not comfortable with he's playing like poop, not putting up points, and getting brainwashed that he sucks and should sign long-term immediately with the Leafs for peanuts.

It's (frank)ing brilliant i tells ya

New players dubas added this summer that are playing on the leafs

Shore 6’ 1””
Mikheyev 6 3”
Spezza 6’ 3”
Barrie 5’ 11”
Kerfoot 5’ 10”


So yeah, just complaining to complain.
- Santo_44

seriously, there's this thing called sarcasm, and another called humor.

I know I'm a repulsive dumb boomer...so my ability to comprehend you deep ongoing persistent analysis is limited... but at times, it might be useful to loosen the schvincter a bit... and relax.

just to be clear - I was mocking Dubas tendency for small players versus large players...so yes of course there will be exceptions.... but that is what they are exceptions.

Barrie has been horrific and deserves nothing.

I get that a PP promotion may benefit him, but the powerplay itself has been disastrous. I don't see how adding a guy who hasn't scored a single goal and has been prone to giving up shorthanded rushes on the 2nd unit is going to do the team any favours...
- joel878

It's all part of the new plan. After Marner had a breakout season paired with Tavares he was able to rake Dubas over the coals in contract negotiations.

By pairing Barrie with Muzzin and forcing him to play in a role he's not comfortable with he's playing like poop, not putting up points, and getting brainwashed that he sucks and should sign long-term immediately with the Leafs for peanuts.

It's (frank)ing brilliant i tells ya
- poopstash

Lol. Fair. Gotta temper that 8 year 8 mil per demand...

Don Cherry was right, stupid Leafs took willie instead of Richie
- senstroll

At the time I was so happy that ritchie was available for us to take... then we took willie and I honestly had no idea who he was at the time..

Ritchie isn't nearly as skilled as willie... but would give us what we don't have, size toughness and can keep up with our forwards.

Also manson is the ideal RHD we would covet... we don't need more smallish offensively skilled forwards or d... we need size and can still move and drive the play.. and a little nastiness...

Robertson has already surpassed bracco, and we could throw in petan or a pick or something to sweeten if need be..

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Ritchie -Matthews-Johnsson
Mikheyev-kerfoot-kapanen
Moore-spezza/goat-timashev

Reilly-manson
Barrie-muzzin
Dermott-holl