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Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
Shero is pretty firm here

https://www.apnews.com/65...1ecb542459e6fcd6890b7a6d5

- TRDevil



Pretty shocked to read 'peppering his comments with profanities...'

Doesn't sound like Ray Ray. He's seems pretty calm and professional to me.
But, I don't think the KHL plays average players that well so I doubt they'd offer him anything great. And then you have to move to Russia which might sound less crappy to someone from the Czech Republic then to an American, but still...it's moving far away. So I guess Ray was just trying to be as dismissive of that hollow threat as possible.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Sep 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
I read that Ludvig Larsson wasn't invited to main camp, and after the tying goal and OT goals today they invited him to come. Probably won't amount to anything but would be a cool story if it does.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Sep 9 @ 3:30 PM ET
Just call 1-800-pen-guin and Shero will answer immediately.
- Queenie_5_hole


I dont usually laugh, but I did here. So shame on you.
slesko
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.30.2016

Sep 9 @ 3:36 PM ET
I'm sort of on the fence. He was 'only' making about $1.75 so $1M is a significant increase. Plus the question of term. I think they get it done.

I don't think it sets any type of bad precedence one way or another because I think how you value Zacha is very subjective.

Not saying I don't Like Leniwm1's creative idea of having him play D, but I don't know any forwards who did this. Seems going from D to F is a lot easier.

- Queenie_5_hole



Brent Burns...
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Sep 9 @ 4:02 PM ET
Brent Burns...
- slesko


I think Burns was D-F-D
Big Buff played wing too.
Land-Creature
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.09.2019

Sep 9 @ 4:50 PM ET
This could be great for Zacha and New Jersey. Far too many players overstay their time in North America when they should leave, instead of hurting themselves. Hopefully he can find his way in Russia. This open spot is extremely valuable to the team.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 9 @ 5:00 PM ET

- smellmyfinger

Damn - one of my favorite actors ever...




KAAPO KAKKO
Thunder_daddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Van isle ferda, BC
Joined: 09.06.2015

Sep 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
The team is better with zacha on it then without him. If the dispute is the team offering him 1.5 a year and hes asking 2.5?? Just pay him.
If I'm zacha and I see them bringing in a pk subban on huge money or a gusev who hasnt even played an nhl game getting 4 mill a year, I'm not going to sign for 1.5.
That being said I wouldnt give zacha anything over 3 lol
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Sep 9 @ 5:23 PM ET
The team is better with zacha on it then without him. If the dispute is the team offering him 1.5 a year and hes asking 2.5?? Just pay him.
If I'm zacha and I see them bringing in a pk subban on huge money or a gusev who hasnt even played an nhl game getting 4 mill a year, I'm not going to sign for 1.5.
That being said I wouldnt give zacha anything over 3 lol

- Thunder_daddy


I have a feeling people don't understand.
If Zacha is worth 1.5 by comparable stats/players and you give in to 2.5. EVERY AGENT representing the Devils will use that for more money. I think that is why overpaying usually occurs for the elites because they are the difference makers. If the low end people get overpaid, your cap is doomed.
Thunder_daddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Van isle ferda, BC
Joined: 09.06.2015

Sep 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
I have a feeling people don't understand.
If Zacha is worth 1.5 by comparable stats/players and you give in to 2.5. EVERY AGENT representing the Devils will use that for more money. I think that is why overpaying usually occurs for the elites because they are the difference makers. If the low end people get overpaid, your cap is doomed.

- Leniwm1

Yeah that makes sense I never thought of that. I just dont feel that 2.5 is an overpayment. Hes also only what, 22? Only going to improve and hes already one of the better defensive forwards around.
Plus I'm just a fan and want to see my boy get paid hahaha
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Sep 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
But how does this all affect Zacha?
- devilspep

Lol
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Sep 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
Yeah that makes sense I never thought of that. I just dont feel that 2.5 is an overpayment. Hes also only what, 22? Only going to improve and hes already one of the better defensive forwards around.
Plus I'm just a fan and want to see my boy get paid hahaha

- Thunder_daddy


Im a zacha fan too. But if he is using the threat to KHL to get paid more for not living up to his potential then let him go. We still have his rights and after one year if he doesnt resign in KHL he could come back, hopefully a better player. And if not, its only a draft pick we lost.
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
I still can't believe you guys took Zacha over Provorov.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 9 @ 6:27 PM ET
Did Shero really say he doesn't give a (frank) if zacha signs in the khl or in Brampton?
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 9 @ 6:28 PM ET
People are concerned about Hughes and his turnovers
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Sep 9 @ 7:01 PM ET
whatever.

I really want him to stay and develop with us. He's an asset on the PK. He may improve to be a better offensive player at evens. Having him as our 4th line center, or even a 3rd line LW, is an asset to the depth of this team.

Annoying, but it is what it is.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Sep 9 @ 7:02 PM ET
Did Shero really say he doesn't give a (frank) if zacha signs in the khl or in Brampton?
- dmarsden2988


When people who don't normally use strong language use strong language to say they don't care, I'm guessing he does actually care.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Sep 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
When people who don't normally use strong language use strong language to say they don't care, I'm guessing he does actually care.
- archromat


A clip of Shero's statements

Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
When people who don't normally use strong language use strong language to say they don't care, I'm guessing he does actually care.
- archromat


Ray Shero has always been a very caring GM.

I think he wants to sign Zacha but the KHL threat is a stupid tactic. Not just because it seems unlikely they are lining up to pay him a big salary.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...salaries-comparables.html
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Sep 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
Ray Shero has always been a very caring GM.

I think he wants to sign Zacha but the KHL threat is a stupid tactic. Not just because it seems unlikely they are lining up to pay him a big salary.

- Queenie_5_hole


I think his comments are trolling Zacha's agent for such a bush league tactic.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 9 @ 7:21 PM ET
I think his comments are trolling Zacha's agent for such a bush league tactic.
- TRDevil


I just added an article on KHL Salaries. I’m sure Ray has much better info. So Zacha is saying I’m not going to play for you about $2M minimum on the qualifying offer so I’ll be lucky as (frank) to make $2M in the KHL. Because that’s somehow better for his career.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 7:53 PM ET
Somebody in Zacha's camp think he's worth a whole lot more than he actually is. I like him for his defensive prowess but the kid can't score. I don't know what the deal is here.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 9 @ 8:03 PM ET
Did Shero really say he doesn't give a (frank) if zacha signs in the khl or in Brampton?
- dmarsden2988



To paraphrase, yes. Then said if he went over it would be very difficult to come back.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
Ok who’s taking Zacha’s job? Rooney. Boqvist. Coleman. Bastian. McLeod. All play center.
Keep the party rolling.


Boyle?
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