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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
I look at it this way. Every off season they bring in 3 or 4 new guys. Folks get all fired up with high expectations. Then only 1 or 2 of the new additions comes close to expectations.
So, out of Miller, Myers, Ferland or Benn, who is going to suck weasal nuts and be the scapegoats for failure by the end of the season?

- Marwood


Miller.
Because of the 1st and 3rd round picks.
If he doesn't score 25 goals and 50 points, it will be hysteria in here.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
Really, you hate Podz?! clearly the BPA at 10, average out all the draft sites and he would hvae been highest without a doubt. I don't pay attention to too much on here, was mostly joking and remembered you not liking JB.
- neem55


I don’t hate him, I hated the pick. & I don’t agree with the common assessment of his talents/how they’ll translate. I love his compete... I think he’s going to be a nice middle 6 contributor. But you don’t target that at 10 unless the elite skillsets are all gone. If the Canucks believe he has an elite skillset, great! We’ll see! IMO he’s an overdrafted version of the Rees/Grewe skillset I wanted addressed with our #40 pick. Hoglander should have been gone in the teens. That was a goddamn steal at #40. So at the end of the day, IMO, we actually got a top line ceiling guy @40 and a great middle 6 guy @10. (Sorry for the textblock, hope it made some sense.)
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 1 @ 10:01 PM ET
Will excel - ___Myers____
Will be as advertised - ___Benn_____
Will miss 38 games - ___Fantenburg_____
Will make LE look good - ___impossible_____

- A_SteamingLombardi

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:02 PM ET
I look at it this way. Every off season they bring in 3 or 4 new guys. Folks get all fired up with high expectations. Then only 1 or 2 of the new additions comes close to expectations.
So, out of Miller, Myers, Ferland or Benn, who is going to suck weasal nuts and be the scapegoats for failure by the end of the season?

- Marwood


I think Benn and Miller will come closest to expectations. Benn shouldn't be expected to much more than a bottom pairing D and Miller should get 20 goals 50 points. I think people will have high expectations for Myers with his $6M salary that he won't live up to and Ferland plays a rugged style and scores a bit but i don't think he's well suited to be a full time top 6 player.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
I'd say there odds of making it are about 50/50. They can't afford to have too many things go wrong and make the playoffs. I'd say below average goaltending alone is enough to keep them out.
- golfingsince

Pretty much the case 👍
Consistency & a better PP & PK in the end.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
I don’t hate him, I hated the pick. & I don’t agree with the common assessment of his talents/how they’ll translate. I love his compete... I think he’s going to be a nice middle 6 contributor. But you don’t target that at 10 unless the elite skillsets are all gone. If the Canucks believe he has an elite skillset, great! We’ll see! IMO he’s an overdrafted version of the Rees/Grewe skillset I wanted addressed with our #40 pick. Hoglander should have been gone in the teens. That was a goddamn steal at #40. So at the end of the day, IMO, we actually got a top line ceiling guy @40 and a great middle 6 guy @10. (Sorry for the textblock, hope it made some sense.)
- DrChristianTroy

Still lacking another playmaker. If one steps up then lots to be excited about with the depth & different skill sets. Still maintain it’s the D that can best improve our offence etc.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
Pretty much the case 👍
Consistency & a better PP & PK in the end.

- Nighthawk


How you liking that rumour site?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
I think Benn and Miller will come closest to expectations. Benn shouldn't be expected to much more than a bottom pairing D and Miller should get 20 goals 50 points. I think people will have high expectations for Myers with his $6M salary that he won't live up to and Ferland plays a rugged style and scores a bit but i don't think he's well suited to be a full time top 6 player.
- golfingsince

Lots of wingers for potential line juggling.

Boeser
Miller
Ferland
Pearson
Goldobin
Sven
JV

Finding chemistry for 3 lines will be interesting & how well or soon it gels.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
How you liking that rumour site?
- Reubenkincade

It’s hilarious i guess lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:51 PM ET
I’m also liking DCT’s choice of Antonio Stranges next draft.
- Nighthawk

Don't have to worry about picking him. DCT never gets any right.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
Don't have to worry about picking him. DCT never gets any right.
- manvanfan



I hope the team is not stupid enough to be playing next year in hopes of drafting a certain player.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 1 @ 11:17 PM ET
Don't have to worry about picking him. DCT never gets any right.
- manvanfan


I was pretty much the only person who called Pettersson. One of a few who wanted Hughes. My goal is never to predict who we take. Just who I want.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 1 @ 11:18 PM ET
I don’t hate him, I hated the pick. & I don’t agree with the common assessment of his talents/how they’ll translate. I love his compete... I think he’s going to be a nice middle 6 contributor. But you don’t target that at 10 unless the elite skillsets are all gone. If the Canucks believe he has an elite skillset, great! We’ll see! IMO he’s an overdrafted version of the Rees/Grewe skillset I wanted addressed with our #40 pick. Hoglander should have been gone in the teens. That was a goddamn steal at #40. So at the end of the day, IMO, we actually got a top line ceiling guy @40 and a great middle 6 guy @10. (Sorry for the textblock, hope it made some sense.)
- DrChristianTroy

Podkolzin was rated #3 for quite some time, no 2 for a bit even. He's a steal at 10.
He wouldn't have fallen to 10 if he wasn't signed to khl for 2 years.

Obviously you don't like him which you're entitled to. Personally i feel he brings something we lack and most teams salivate over. I also love that he was 200 lbs at 17. Hopefully he will fill out at 235
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 1 @ 11:19 PM ET
Podkolzin was rated #3 for quite some time, no 2 for a bit even. He's a steal at 10.
He wouldn't have fallen to 10 if he wasn't signed to khl for 2 years.

Obviously you don't like him which you're entitled to. Personally i feel he brings something we lack and most teams salivate over. I also love that he was 200 lbs at 17. Hopefully he will fill out at 235

- SMBDragon


Who. Cares.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 1 @ 11:31 PM ET
I hope the team is not stupid enough to be playing next year in hopes of drafting a certain player.
- VANTEL


It’d be ridiculous to... There are a TON of amazing options. One dman who IMO has better 2019 tape than Broberg is rated as a 2nd-3rd rounder.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 1 @ 11:37 PM ET
I look at it this way. Every off season they bring in 3 or 4 new guys. Folks get all fired up with high expectations. Then only 1 or 2 of the new additions comes close to expectations.
So, out of Miller, Myers, Ferland or Benn, who is going to suck weasal nuts and be the scapegoats for failure by the end of the season?

- Marwood

Because you refuse to see the big picture. Yes agreed every year they have brought in 3-4 players...difference being of course these players brought in this year aren't Gagner, LE and Guddy they are Myers Ferland Miller and Benn. Very different. And in past years there hasn't been a Boeser Petttersson Hughes Demko to work around like now. Things are changing. Moving up 10 spots in three s seasons with this current roster was progress enough...now we are filling needs with complimentary talent to our core, and things should be better. Sitting around with a top ten pick for ten years doesn't help us. Eventually you have to move on bro...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
Podkolzin was rated #3 for quite some time, no 2 for a bit even. He's a steal at 10.
He wouldn't have fallen to 10 if he wasn't signed to khl for 2 years.

Obviously you don't like him which you're entitled to. Personally i feel he brings something we lack and most teams salivate over. I also love that he was 200 lbs at 17. Hopefully he will fill out at 235

- SMBDragon


Guys who fall aren’t always good value. Shinkaruk and Schroeder were top 10 on lists but started to fall during their draft years.


I’m with DCT, don’t like the Pod pick at #10, but he’s still a solid prospect. Love the Hoglander pick, but I don’t see top line upside in either of them. I’d be pretty happy if both ended up as valuable middle 6 players.

I do believe Boldy has top line upside and was disappointed that he was passed on.

Hopefully Pod makes his doubters look silly like Bo and EP did.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 1 @ 11:45 PM ET
No surprised and I called it. The so called politics thread would quickly become a new place for the usual few to run their mouths about people in here and troll them with lies. Now it's just a bunch of crying about having their narratives rejected in the main thread. Politics forgotten about completely.



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:46 PM ET
Don't have to worry about picking him. DCT never gets any right.
- manvanfan

Only Pettersson lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 1 @ 11:50 PM ET
No surprised and I called it. The so called politics thread would quickly become a new place for the usual few to run their mouths about people in here and troll them with lies. Now it's just a bunch of crying about having their narratives rejected in the main thread. Politics forgotten about completely.
- boonerbuck


I posted this there so everything’s out in the open
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:52 PM ET
Guys who fall aren’t always good value. Shinkaruk and Schroeder were top 10 on lists but started to fall during their draft years.


I’m with DCT, don’t like the Pod pick at #10, but he’s still a solid prospect. Love the Hoglander pick, but I don’t see top line upside in either of them. I’d be pretty happy if both ended up as valuable middle 6 players.

I do believe Boldy has top line upside and was disappointed that he was passed on.

Hopefully Pod makes his doubters look silly like Bo and EP did.

- Nucker101

Conservative guess is Pod is top 6 unless he develops more east/west skill & playmaking. Does some of that in his 2yrs in the KHL then real top line potential. Could be a good 3rd wheel & high energy wrecking ball player at the worst.

Hoglander probably more on the finesse & water bug type. Good fit for Bo.

Looking at 3C it’s how well Gaudette develops & Madden not too much later. Either one of them drives the play better & then 3 lines deep & all about dynamics of duos & the 3rd wheel to bring it together.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 1 @ 11:52 PM ET
Because you refuse to see the big picture. Yes agreed every year they have brought in 3-4 players...difference being of course these players brought in this year aren't Gagner, LE and Guddy they are Myers Ferland Miller and Benn. Very different. And in past years there hasn't been a Boeser Petttersson Hughes Demko to work around like now. Things are changing. Moving up 10 spots in three s seasons with this current roster was progress enough...now we are filling needs with complimentary talent to our core, and things should be better. Sitting around with a top ten pick for ten years doesn't help us. Eventually you have to move on bro...
- LordHumungous

Right, it hasn't worked for the oilers at all. All those premium picks and they are basement dwellers
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 1 @ 11:54 PM ET
No surprised and I called it. The so called politics thread would quickly become a new place for the usual few to run their mouths about people in here and troll them with lies. Now it's just a bunch of crying about having their narratives rejected in the main thread. Politics forgotten about completely.
- boonerbuck


Nice investigative work, Sherlock.
😂😂😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:58 PM ET
Right, it hasn't worked for the oilers at all. All those premium picks and they are basement dwellers
- SMBDragon

Poorly constructed roster & even worse execution of getting the vets to augment them. Wasted years & prospects damaged resulted. Add poor D & Goalies & it’s a mess.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:59 PM ET
Who. Cares.
- DrChristianTroy

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