Bjugstad and good don’t go together.
- Feds91Stammer

I will fight you on this.

The Dominik Simon argument in a nut shell. See, Rust scores more often when he plays with Sid, but Sid and Jake score less often as a result of Rusts play. Simon doesn't score that often with anyone, but when he plays with Sid and Jake, they score much more often. Therefore Jake Sid Simon outscore Jake Sid Rust as a line making them better despite a single player on that line not producing to the same level as another.

Over the last 2 seasons Lowry saw improvement in every defensive category with Tanev on the ice (using per 60 rates). Granted, it is only 300 minutes away from Tanev, but that is still a large enough sample size to say that Tanev does have a positive impact defensively on his line. He also has a better Scoring Chances For % and High Danger Chances For % with Tanev. There might be something to the Tanev signing
- burgh4life87

Every line needs someone to do the dirty work. Thats why Kessel sucked with Malkin and Crosby. It was easy on the PP. If they can finish like Kunitz....bonus pts.

Every line needs someone to do the dirty work. Thats why Kessel sucked with Malkin and Crosby. It was easy on the PP. If they can finish like Kunitz....bonus pts.
- sammy87

Kessel was actually really good with Crosby. That line owned the puck and scoring chances in the minuscule amount of time they were on the ice together.

I will fight you on this.
- burgh4life87

He’s not good. That’s not an opinion it’s a fact.

Kessel was actually really good with Crosby. That line owned the puck and scoring chances in the minuscule amount of time they were on the ice together.
- j.boyd919

So they had chances and possession but couldn't close? So the coach was smart and split them up.

I have people in my sales team that always have chances to sell but they dont so I fire them.

He’s not good. That’s not an opinion it’s a fact.
- Feds91Stammer

That is opinion.

So they had chances and possession but couldn't close? So the coach was smart and split them up.

I have people in my sales team that always have chances to sell but they dont so I fire them.
- sammy87

In 96 minutes they had 11 goals for and 2 goals against at 5v5. That’s pretty god damn good. They could finish just fine. That’s 6.84 gf/60min

So they had chances and possession but couldn't close? So the coach was smart and split them up.

I have people in my sales team that always have chances to sell but they dont so I fire them.
- sammy87

Like a gf60 of 4.03 which is higher than Crosby’s gf60 of 3.1 without Kessel. Get rekt idiot.

That is opinion.
- burgh4life87

He isn’t good. Sorry bro.

Like a gf60 of 4.03 which is higher than Crosby’s gf60 of 3.1 without Kessel. Get rekt idiot.
- Feds91Stammer

I’m seeing 6.84 gf/60

That is opinion.
- burgh4life87

Yeah Bjugstad is pretty meh.

I’m seeing 6.84 gf/60
- j.boyd919

Was looking at past 3 seasons.

He’s not good. That’s not an opinion it’s a fact.
- Feds91Stammer

That based just on his WOWYs with Simon, because even Simon got a big boost with Bjugstad so it seems they helped each other.

If it's scoring, I think that has a lot to do with having 2 wings on the same line who couldn't buy a goal, but at least they gave up almost nothing.

That based just on his WOWYs with Simon, because even Simon got a big boost with Bjugstad so it seems they helped each other.

If it's scoring, I think that has a lot to do with having 2 wings on the same line who couldn't buy a goal, but at least they gave up almost nothing.
- Tojo.

It’s based on his career. He also had 0 primary assists at 5v5 last season. He’s not bad but he definitely isn’t good especially at his cap hit.

Kahun had 12 points with Strome compared to 9 with Toews despite twice as much ice time with Toews

He also had 18 points with DeBricant, so they did have great chemistry, but Kahun bounced around the line-up quite a bit. He played 1040 minutes, 437 were with DeBrincat and 404 with Toews, but that leaves over 600 away from both.
- Tojo.

10 with strome, 5 with toews, and 16 with debrincat. Where are you getting those numbers?

It’s based on his career. He also had 0 primary assists at 5v5 last season. He’s not bad but he definitely isn’t good especially at his cap hit.
- Feds91Stammer

He's a bit uneven offensively year to year for sure. Last year was actually pretty good. Generally a positive possession guy raw stats or relative but not by much.

Biggest difference between him and Rust for me is who replaces him. I'm not sure McCann is best at center.

If they had a replacement, I'd be willing to move him. But after two years of them trying to replace Bonino, I'd rather keep him for now.

10 with strome, 5 with toews, and 16 with debrincat. Where are you getting those numbers?
- burgh4life87

Natural Stat Trick. 5v5 points with teammates.

No. Stop making excuses for a dogpoop gm.
- Feds91Stammer

If Rutherford has to overpay, he had no one to blame but himself

Natural Stat Trick. 5v5 points with teammates.
- Tojo.

That's what I used. How did we come up with different numbers?

He's a bit uneven offensively year to year for sure. Last year was actually pretty good. Generally a positive possession guy raw stats or relative but not by much.

Biggest difference between him and Rust for me is who replaces him. I'm not sure McCann is best at center.

If they had a replacement, I'd be willing to move him. But after two years of them trying to replace Bonino, I'd rather keep him for now.
- Tojo.

Blueger for 3C over Bjugstad imo

Blueger for 3C over Bjugstad imo
- Feds91Stammer

Possibly, would like to see Teddy get some more time up to prove that. Although he looked just fine when filling in on 2nd line duty for Malkin during his one injury last year.

But on a cost value wise, he is easily > Bjug already. Those ELC deals are just unfair for that metric

I will fight you on this.
- burgh4life87

I think Bjugstad is a good 3rd line player.

Blueger for 3C over Bjugstad imo
- Feds91Stammer

Blueger has played 28 games. I remain cautiously optimistic about him.

That's what I used. How did we come up with different numbers?
- burgh4life87

I don't know here's what I have:

https://www.naturalstattr...te=n&v=t&playerid=8480946

Blueger for 3C over Bjugstad imo
- Feds91Stammer

I'm not real high on his upside. But if he or McCann or a prospect takes the job, they'll need cap dumps next year to. For now, with only questionable other options, I'd rather find space elsewhere.

He at least put up 8 goals in his 32 games an had 30 assists just last year so he is capable.