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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
Potentially one good thing I see about him going to RFD is being able to bond with some other players that could be in the team pic in a few years.

The bigger ? For me is will he get the coaching needed from King and are there any mentoring types on the team? I know Versteeg will be there and hopefully that’s a role he can embrace and excel at.

- HawkintheD


Brian Campbell worked with Boqvist last year on a few occasions. I would guess that option is still open.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 11:09 AM ET
Now that you mention it, it's been a while since Stan made a deal. I have a feeling another move is coming today, but it could be just gas I'm feeling, not too sure yet.
- DarthKane


Both.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
London lost solely because they were weak up-front. Simply didn’t have enough forward scoring. Boqvist had 10 in 11 and Bouchard was also great. Can’t fault the London D. Can we stop comparing Boqvist to Gus, as Gus is clueless on the ice and should not be in the NHL.
- Z3Hawk


It's kind of an inevitable comparison. Outside of pedigree, they are very similar players. They both are offensively gifted, with below average defensive abilities. You could also strongly make the argument that Boqvist should not be in the NHL.

What about the comparison do you object to? (for the English majors, I apologize for the poor sentence structure).
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 11:14 AM ET
It's kind of an inevitable comparison. Outside of pedigree, they are very similar players. They both are offensively gifted, with below average defensive abilities. You could also strongly make the argument that Boqvist should not be in the NHL.

What about the comparison do you object to? (for the English majors, I apologize for the poor sentence structure).

- Chunk


Even though I am, it's not something I nit-pick. My man, Raptor, is who you need to worry about, haha.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
London lost solely because they were weak up-front. Simply didn’t have enough forward scoring. Boqvist had 10 in 11 and Bouchard was also great. Can’t fault the London D. Can we stop comparing Boqvist to Gus, as Gus is clueless on the ice and should not be in the NHL.
- Z3Hawk

No Londondodn't lose soley because of scoring, they lost in part to that and in part because they were not able to deal with Guelph's forechecking. And the comparison to Gus is strictly in reference to they both have strong offenssive skills and are not strong without the puck. I want to see both of them work on prevent defense and winning puck battles. Gus is currently a defenseman that can only play in offensive situations, I want to see Gus and Boqvist on the ice against the other team's top players, do some penalty killing and be an option in the last minutes to hold a lead.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
No Londondodn't lose soley because of scoring, they lost in part to that and in part because they were not able to deal with Guelph's forechecking. And the comparison to Gus is strictly in reference to they both have strong offenssive skills and are not strong without the puck. I want to see both of them work on prevent defense and winning puck battles. Gus is currently a defenseman that can only play in offensive situations, I want to see Gus and Boqvist on the ice against the other team's top players, do some penalty killing and be an option in the last minutes to hold a lead.
- paulr


Can Erik Karlsson do that? And he is getting $11 mil./yr.
Abadseed
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington hts, IL
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jul 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
Tyler do you think if Stan would have signed Dzingel took the money and term he got from the canes he wouldn’t have traded for Shaw?
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
I think it was 10 playoff games. Isn't that the number to burn the first year?
- I Am The Breadman


I don't know all the nuances - I was just replying that it wasn't only regular season games that would knock off a year on an ELC contract - playoff games can too.

There seem to be some rule differences for players coming from college and especially after their senior season. Sikura completed his college career and signed the 2-year "college senior" ELC and had the first year of his ELC knocked off by playing 5 games with the Hawks at the end of the 2017/18 season.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
Tyler do you think if Stan would have signed Dzingel took the money and term he got from the canes he wouldn’t have traded for Shaw?
- Abadseed



All else being equal it likely would have come down to Shaw or Dzingel, there's isn;t enough cap space for both. Plus, I don't think Stan wants to tie up too much salary cap space going forward, he wouldn't sign both Shaw and Dzingel is it jeopardized the team's chances of being able to re-sign both DeBrincat at Strome.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
I don't know all the nuances - I was just replying that it wasn't only regular season games that would knock off a year on an ELC contract - playoff games can too.

There seem to be some rule differences for players coming from college and especially after their senior season. Sikura completed his college career and signed the 2-year "college senior" ELC and had the first year of his ELC knocked off by playing 5 games with the Hawks at the end of the 2017/18 season.

- EbonyRaptor


I knew your basic gist, I don't know the nuances either, just trying to pick your brain if you did. I don't think Hillman & Hayden played more than Sikura to eat up their first year either.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Even though I am, it's not something I nit-pick. My man, Raptor, is who you need to worry about, haha.
- I Am The Breadman


Ha ... I'm hardly an English major. I can barely put two sentences together. The who/whom thing was just an annoyance because I wasn't sure which one to use all the time either so I did a little research and found the he/him rule which helped.


walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
It's only $3.375 per year.
- BINGO!


Think it’s a fair deal, doesn’t tie either party up for a long time. He’s a decent regular season player, as long as you realize he’s probably going to be MIA come playoff time.

I like Shaw a lot more at $3.9 per year than Dzingle at $3.375.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
Ha ... I'm hardly an English major. I can barely put two sentences together. The who/whom thing was just an annoyance because I wasn't sure which one to use all the time either so I did a little research and found the he/him rule which helped.



- EbonyRaptor


Hahahaha, just giving you a little bit of poop.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Think it’s a fair deal, doesn’t tie either party up for a long time. He’s a decent regular season player, as long as you realize he’s probably going to be MIA come playoff time.

I like Shaw a lot more at $3.9 per year than Dzingle at $3.375.

- walleyeb1


Plus the Hawks were looking for players that were harder to play against and are defensively responsible, we did not lack goal scoring last year.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Think it’s a fair deal, doesn’t tie either party up for a long time. He’s a decent regular season player, as long as you realize he’s probably going to be MIA come playoff time.

I like Shaw a lot more at $3.9 per year than Dzingle at $3.375.

- walleyeb1



It's a fair deal and a fair term. Not a home-run signing but a solid move nonetheless. I am happy with Stan's off season plan so far, he's addressed the specific needs of the team and has not put the team in any long-term cap stress. While Stan has improved the team there are several players without any type of NTC that can be moved if needed, that's a big difference compared to previous years.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
Plus the Hawks were looking for players that were harder to play against and are defensively responsible, we did not lack goal scoring last year.
- LAHawk


Yep, these two players play entirely different roles.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
This was in Powers article yesterday too:

Strome has remained in Chicago this offseason and has been participating in the Blackhawks’ strength and conditioning program and working on the ice with Prodigy Hockey’s Brian Keane. DeBrincat is in Chicago again this offseason as well.

“It was a combination of things,” Strome’s agent Mark Guy said of the decision to remain in Chicago. “It was something the team recommended just based on the success that DeBrincat had the year before, and it was also Dylan feels very comfortable there. He likes the setup there, he likes the people he was going to be working with, and the fact that Alex is going to be there doing it again and a few of the other players made sense for him to stay.”


Keane’s clients this summer include Toews, Kane, Strome, DeBrincat, Saad and Murphy.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 12 @ 12:11 PM ET
Brian Campbell worked with Boqvist last year on a few occasions. I would guess that option is still open.
- Chunk



Brian Campbell now has an official title on the Blackhawks’ website: player development coach. He was listed in the media guide last season as hockey/business operations liaison.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
Plus the Hawks were looking for players that were harder to play against and are defensively responsible, we did not lack goal scoring last year.
- LAHawk


I'll be interested to see if the scoring keeps pace with last year considering all the new faces.
BDT36
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
Quite a number also getting on the ice to occasionally play some semi-serious games against other pros (current and past). If you're in Chicago, the games are only $5 per ticket and you can stand at the glass or sit in the stands. When it's a hot day, it's a perfect respite.

Active Hawks System
Toews
Kane
DBC
Strome
Beaudin
Louis
Boqvist
Murphy
Vlasic
Broadhurst

Some Hawks Alums
Bollig
Darling
Pirri
Hinostroza
Hartman

Saw Q and StanBo at a couple of the games last year. Good way for them to see the new guys on ice in a lower pressure situation.

This year, they've also got a women's division (Kendall Coyne was on Kane's team last year)

- pdx2ord


Kendall is still playing with the boys this year and is on Kane’s team again. We saw them play last year and it’s a lot of fun. Kane did not come that night, but Kendall held her own with the boys just fine, and we got to see DeBrincat, Dzingel, etc. too.
Bubbs613
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Anywhere but Toronto , ON
Joined: 09.19.2018

Jul 12 @ 12:25 PM ET
I'm glad he's in Chicago and not in Detroit.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 12 @ 12:29 PM ET
Ha ... I'm hardly an English major. I can barely put two sentences together. The who/whom thing was just an annoyance because I wasn't sure which one to use all the time either so I did a little research and found the he/him rule which helped.



- EbonyRaptor



Just say who the (frank). Solves that issue.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
This was in Powers article yesterday too:

Strome has remained in Chicago this offseason and has been participating in the Blackhawks’ strength and conditioning program and working on the ice with Prodigy Hockey’s Brian Keane. DeBrincat is in Chicago again this offseason as well.

“It was a combination of things,” Strome’s agent Mark Guy said of the decision to remain in Chicago. “It was something the team recommended just based on the success that DeBrincat had the year before, and it was also Dylan feels very comfortable there. He likes the setup there, he likes the people he was going to be working with, and the fact that Alex is going to be there doing it again and a few of the other players made sense for him to stay.”


Keane’s clients this summer include Toews, Kane, Strome, DeBrincat, Saad and Murphy.

- walleyeb1


Very interesting to see Saad’s name on that list. Maybe he got sick of hearing the same criticisms as Toews (not playing up to contract, etc) and decided to go the same route.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 12 @ 12:36 PM ET
Traded Joki to entice Mitchell to sign. Meeting Stan next week to discuss.
- Assman22


Ass backwards if true
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
I'll be interested to see if the scoring keeps pace with last year considering all the new faces.
- Chunk


At least i believe the opponent won't be scoring goals like they were last year
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