Trade can still be made within the 7 day period.
Some people need everything explained for them
- JiggsDinner

This is very true. Some people are so quick to crap.

He is a very calculated GM. He makes other teams more nervous if Canes match. They will get down to biz sooner than later now. I’m glad a GM with balls uses the CBA & forces other GM’s to get serious & down to work. Predatory moves is trying to win in the Pros idgaf about other GM’s own problems.
- Nighthawk

That's a weird reason to use offer sheets, seems like a lot of time and effort just to make other GMs sign their own talented players while getting nothing for the Habs? I'm all for it if it gets Marner signed sooner though!

The only thing that's significant is holding the picks, the Habs still have $11 mil due to the 10% cap increase, they wouldn't use the total space in 7 days even if they had it all.
- dumper40

Agreed and Bergevin can still negociate and conclude something with another RFA as we speak and wait until the Hurricanes match to sign the deal with the other RFA say Laine. Laine would only have to reject the offers made by Winnipeg until MTL signs the OS...

So really, that 7 day waiting period ain’t penalizing anyone... the only reason why Carolina would not be signing the deal right now is in hope of getting a better « trade offer » for Aho from Montreal.

That's a weird reason to use offer sheets, seems like a lot of time and effort just to make other GMs sign their own talented players while getting nothing for the Habs? I'm all for it if it gets Marner signed sooner though!
- 13sundin13

Time & effort is a GM’s job.
Next up Point or Connor?

Canadiens made it easy for the Hurricanes. Yes its front loaded but still works out to the same cash over 5 yrs.

Time & effort is a GM’s job.
Next up Point or Connor?
- Nighthawk

For their own team yes, not to help other teams get better...

Habs trying to ink Kawhi

Canadiens made it easy for the Hurricanes. Yes its front loaded but still works out to the same cash over 5 yrs.
- spazzbot

For Aho getting money sooner is better than letting inflation erode it. In reverse for the Canes.

This is very true. Some people are so quick to crap.
- habsp

Well so much for crap about a sweetener trade.

Sweeten it how? Canes match or don’t. There is no 3rd option. You are incredible posting this crap.

Explain yourself or don’t bother responding when called out on your blogs as usual.
- Nighthawk

Enjoy your ban.

didnt know hockey buzz was a hangout of NHL GMs who know everything about offer sheets.

does Chiraelli hangout in here and talk about his glory days with the Bruins..

didnt know hockey buzz was a hangout of NHL GMs who know everything about offer sheets.

does Chiraelli hangout in here and talk about his glory days with the Bruins..
- wingz4life

Nope.

Think of it as a valid contract. Carolina has two options, and two options only:

- match the contract. It has to be matched exactly - no changes allowed. None. Think of it as taking the Word document and doing a search and replace: take out Montreal Canadians and put in Carolina Hurricanes. IF they do, no trade for a year.

- decline to match and take the compensation.

What Carolina can do is tell the Habs they won't match if the Habs trade another player to Carolina for a ham sandwich.

Example:

"Hey Bergy - if you trade us Carey Price for a 4th round draft pick, we won't match your offer sheet."

So technically, Ek isn't wrong on this, in that there is something possible.

It won't happen, but technically it is possible.
- Atomic Wedgie

It has happened before. What the trade is normally for is the return of the draft picks.

So Carolina walks from Aho, and takes the picks as compensation. They then trade the picks back to Montreal for player A, B and C

Metzler spoke of this today on the Flyers signing Chris Gratton. Tampa Bay walked and got 4 firsts, which they traded back to Philly for Renberg and Dykhuis. Not too difficult to understand. The player signing the offer sheet can't be traded for 1 year.

Enjoy your ban.
- RafiDRW

Not everyone is as thin skinned as you might believe. Enjoy

Canadiens made it easy for the Hurricanes. Yes its front loaded but still works out to the same cash over 5 yrs.
- spazzbot

this.

youre a fool if you think Carolina isnt pissed off and has any interest in negotiating with a team that messed with their business.

Agreed and Bergevin can still negociate and conclude something with another RFA as we speak and wait until the Hurricanes match to sign the deal with the other RFA say Laine. Laine would only have to reject the offers made by Winnipeg until MTL signs the OS...

So really, that 7 day waiting period ain’t penalizing anyone... the only reason why Carolina would not be signing the deal right now is in hope of getting a better « trade offer » for Aho from Montreal.
- biggysebby

That makes sense theoretically but I don’t think it’s practical or realistic. It’s too complicated and I don’t think most 21-24yr olds have the stomach for it. Agent might, but not the player or their families for that matter. Take Nylander, he comes from a hockey family and had his dad nhl experience to fall on and yet he talked about how stressful the uncertainty of waiting and negotiating was for him.

this.

youre a fool if you think Carolina isnt pissed off and has any interest in negotiating with a team that messed with their business.
- systemtool

Its the Pros not rummoli 😂
Aah who cares what Waddel thinks anyways. Name of the game is winning & he has done nothing as a GM in his career. He inherited what Francis built. He’s paid peanuts & Dundon isn’t worth worrying about. MB has 29 & soon to be 30 other teams he can deal with. Anyone thinking a ruthless GM won’t do what it takes to win believes there is the good ol boys club.

There's something no one is talking about. From the start this has been about a trade for Aho. Bergevin may have threatened to use offer sheet if Carolina overvalued Aho (perhaps thinking they could get him cheap for 7 years) Bergevin followed through with the offer sheet to regain advantage in the negotiation. 5 years (that Carolina didnt want), very front loaded...ouch, and for a bit more $. I honestly don't think Bergevin ever thought Carolina wouldnt match the offer if it came down to it. Carolina does hate it though and it does force their hand a bit if they really do prefer trading him vs paying him. It makes sense if that was the main reason they were talking trade with Montreal in the first place.
What are your thoughts?

Dundon and Waddell have made it clear they are matching. The delay in matching is to tie up Montreal for the full seven days for the cap space to prevent them from chasing other free agents and seeking trades with their 3 draft picks.
- Barbecued Hockey

There's something no one is talking about. From the start this has been about a trade for Aho. Bergevin may have threatened to use offer sheet if Carolina overvalued Aho (perhaps thinking they could get him cheap for 7 years) Bergevin followed through with the offer sheet to regain advantage in the negotiation. 5 years (that Carolina didnt want), very front loaded...ouch, and for a bit more $. I honestly don't think Bergevin ever thought Carolina wouldnt match the offer if it came down to it. Carolina does hate it though and it does force their hand a bit if they really do prefer trading him vs paying him. It makes sense if that was the main reason they were talking trade with Montreal in the first place.
What are your thoughts?
- Jelugo1977

The contract is fair cap-wise for him there could be many scenarios. Maybe his agent asked Bergevin for the offersheet because he wore habs PJ's as a kid? Before Bergevin offered he called Carolina and they negotiated behind Aho's back. It's hard telling when you don't know.

That's a weird reason to use offer sheets, seems like a lot of time and effort just to make other GMs sign their own talented players while getting nothing for the Habs? I'm all for it if it gets Marner signed sooner though!
- 13sundin13

MB may have calculated that he can help tie up leaf cap space by making it easier for Marner to show he should get 10.5 per since Aho is getting 8.5+mill per year...

MB may have calculated that he can help tie up leaf cap space by making it easier for Marner to show he should get 10.5 per since Aho is getting 8.5+mill per year...
- kaptaan

This has to be right because it revolves around Toronto.

this.

youre a fool if you think Carolina isnt pissed off and has any interest in negotiating with a team that messed with their business.
- systemtool

For sure they're pissed. $21 million in the 1st year to coincide with a no trade provision for the first 12 mo of the contact. Bergevin is hoping the Carolina owner doesn't want to pay that out.

Agreed and Bergevin can still negociate and conclude something with another RFA as we speak and wait until the Hurricanes match to sign the deal with the other RFA say Laine. Laine would only have to reject the offers made by Winnipeg until MTL signs the OS...

So really, that 7 day waiting period ain’t penalizing anyone... the only reason why Carolina would not be signing the deal right now is in hope of getting a better « trade offer » for Aho from Montreal.
- biggysebby

That is some strong Canadian koolaid you are drinking.

There's something no one is talking about. From the start this has been about a trade for Aho. Bergevin may have threatened to use offer sheet if Carolina overvalued Aho (perhaps thinking they could get him cheap for 7 years) Bergevin followed through with the offer sheet to regain advantage in the negotiation. 5 years (that Carolina didnt want), very front loaded...ouch, and for a bit more $. I honestly don't think Bergevin ever thought Carolina wouldnt match the offer if it came down to it. Carolina does hate it though and it does force their hand a bit if they really do prefer trading him vs paying him. It makes sense if that was the main reason they were talking trade with Montreal in the first place.
What are your thoughts?
- Jelugo1977

Money wasn't the main issue. Carolina wanted a longer term. Aho wanted a shorter term to get to UFA status.