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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
Rossi just posted an article trading Bjugs, ZAR, and Gudbranson to Ott - A 2021 2nd to Vegas, OTT send a 2020 3rd to Vegas, Vegas sends PGH Gusev and Ottawa sends PGH Condon. Then he wants Petts to sign a 4 year 14 mill deal or 6 year 19.5, Murray to go 8 x 7.5 and Schultz 6x6.5

I think I see better and realistic props on this site. Who gave him a job?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:03 PM ET
The problem was the team had no identity, and got outworked by a hungrier team.

This has been addressed.

- stackthepads

They addressed it by doing what exactly?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:06 PM ET
Rossi just posted an article trading Bjugs, ZAR, and Gudbranson to Ott - A 2021 2nd to Vegas, OTT send a 2020 3rd to Vegas, Vegas sends PGH Gusev and Ottawa sends PGH Condon. Then he wants Petts to sign a 4 year 14 mill deal or 6 year 19.5, Murray to go 8 x 7.5 and Schultz 6x6.5

I think I see better and realistic props on this site. Who gave him a job?

- burgh4life87


I think we should try to sign Petts in the
1.75-2.75 range for 2-3 years.

I’m not interested in Schultz at 6.5x6.

Murray extension seems “okay,” Id like to see how he plays this season before shelling out a huge contract.

Only problem with shipping Bjugstad is who plays 3C? I didn’t mind him at 3C and I think they want McCann on the wings so unless they are willing to commit to McCann at 3C, I’m not sure I see Bjugstad moving before Rust unfortunately. Still wish it was Horny being moved.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
They addressed it by doing what exactly?
- Feds91Stammer


Acquiring worse players for the players they traded away and let go.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
You guys think I don’t have the insider scoop? Check this out...

Per my female roommate: Benn wasn’t going to re-sign in Montreal because he has pitties (pitbulls) and they’re banned

😂

- WSCTeton17



Well accordingly to this homeless guy I pass on the way home from work, he once gave Benn a reach around for 10 bucks and during it he said very clearly he would love to sign in Montreal. He even sang O Canada during the 'finish'
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:10 PM ET
besides not signing Perry JR has done a good job.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 2 @ 3:10 PM ET
They addressed it by doing what exactly?
- Feds91Stammer

Arbitrarily got younger for the sake of getting younger.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:12 PM ET
How is this board so pissed about paying Tanev 3.5 when Hagelin made 4 and everyone thought he was great? Hagelin was the worst contract pens had for years.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:19 PM ET
How is this board so pissed about paying Tanev 3.5 when Hagelin made 4 and everyone thought he was great? Hagelin was the worst contract pens had for years.
- Grinder47


Nah.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:21 PM ET
Nah.
- j.boyd919

Hagelin this day still isn’t better than Chris Kunitz.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:22 PM ET
Arbitrarily got younger for the sake of getting younger.
- Victoro311

Gotta fill up your roster with past peak age players and bank on a lottery shot of untapped potential whenever you can.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
How is this board so pissed about paying Tanev 3.5 when Hagelin made 4 and everyone thought he was great? Hagelin was the worst contract pens had for years.
- Grinder47

That’s an awfully entertaining way of trying to justify a poop contract.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:27 PM ET
Hagelin this day still isn’t better than Chris Kunitz.
- Grinder47


No one claimed that he is? That’s an odd post. I don’t believe he was ever better than Kunitz either.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:27 PM ET
That’s an awfully entertaining way of trying to justify a poop contract.
- Feds91Stammer


Not really Hagelin sucked at $4mil but everyone was pissed he got traded. There were like 4 months of him playing well on hte HBK line. Thats it.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
That’s an awfully entertaining way of trying to justify a poop contract.
- Feds91Stammer

6 years from now the least of the Pens worries are going to be paying Tanev 3.5. If he’s still a penguin at that time.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 2 @ 3:32 PM ET
How is this board so pissed about paying Tanev 3.5 when Hagelin made 4 and everyone thought he was great? Hagelin was the worst contract pens had for years.
- Grinder47


Carl Hagelin has only had a shots for % under 54% twice in his career. Those two seasons saw him at 53.8 % and 51.2%. 5 years of ELITE defensive play. Tanev has been a positive shot differential player 1 time in his 3* seasons. Also, 6 years of term is certifiably insane.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
Carl Hagelin has only had a shots for % under 54% twice in his career. Those two seasons saw him at 53.8 % and 51.2%. 5 years of ELITE defensive play. Tanev has been a positive shot differential player 1 time in his 3* seasons. Also, 6 years of term is certifiably insane.
- burgh4life87

Blah blahdidy blah blah blah.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:41 PM ET
Carl Hagelin has only had a shots for % under 54% twice in his career. Those two seasons saw him at 53.8 % and 51.2%. 5 years of ELITE defensive play. Tanev has been a positive shot differential player 1 time in his 3* seasons. Also, 6 years of term is certifiably insane.
- burgh4life87

Dude, there’s no justification with Grinder. Its 100% eye test and it doesn’t sound like he watches that much either. It’s the opposite of the stat guys who also don’t watch.. kinda
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 2 @ 3:47 PM ET
Dude, there’s no justification with Grinder. Its 100% eye test and it doesn’t sound like he watches that much either. It’s the opposite of the stat guys who also don’t watch.. kinda
- WSCTeton17

I, the anonymous person making this post and the only one in the right side of this argument, am the only one on this board who watches hockey.

-Average Hockeybuzz Pens board poster since about 2014.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:49 PM ET
Dude, there’s no justification with Grinder. Its 100% eye test and it doesn’t sound like he watches that much either. It’s the opposite of the stat guys who also don’t watch.. kinda
- WSCTeton17

Yeah. Hardly ever watched a game. (Jerk off motion).
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 2 @ 3:52 PM ET

Whoa. Leave Hags alone.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:54 PM ET
Dude, there’s no justification with Grinder. Its 100% eye test and it doesn’t sound like he watches that much either. It’s the opposite of the stat guys who also don’t watch.. kinda
- WSCTeton17


I don’t know a single stat guy who doesn’t watch hockey so I’m not really sure where the idea that stats guys don’t want hockey comes in at. Do they watch 82x31 games? But I bet they watch more hockey than 90% of the posters on here.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
How is this board so pissed about paying Tanev 3.5 when Hagelin made 4 and everyone thought he was great? Hagelin was the worst contract pens had for years.
- Grinder47

We literally complained about that contract all the time. Only way to get to this take is if you think criticizing a contract is the same as criticizing the player’s game, which honestly, for you, is probably par for the course.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
I don’t know a single stat guy who doesn’t watch hockey so I’m not really sure where the idea that stats guys don’t want hockey comes in at. Do they watch 82x31 games? But I bet they watch more hockey than 90% of the posters on here.
- j.boyd919


Hockey stat nerds are hockey stat nerds in the first place because we love hockey, and watching hockey is the second best hockey-related activity you can do.

That shot about stat nerds not watching the game isn't even rooted in reality.


…..
I'm also Asian, so I'm good at math.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:02 PM ET
I don’t know a single stat guy who doesn’t watch hockey so I’m not really sure where the idea that stats guys don’t want hockey comes in at. Do they watch 82x31 games? But I bet they watch more hockey than 90% of the posters on here.
- j.boyd919

Counting shots is not watching hockey. That’s why there is that stats guy, and then the coach and GM who make fun of the stats guy.
That the owner hired because he frequents hockeybuzz to much.
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