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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
Todd Cordell: The New Jersey Devils aren't done shopping
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 30 @ 10:55 AM ET
I would say Shero has to get one more premiere player. So far he has shown restraint in not doing anything foolish. Let's hope that continues.
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Jun 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
Boyle, Nyquist and a LHD would be ideal
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
DOOMED
cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

Jun 30 @ 12:24 PM ET
So no one likes Nichushkin then ?

Although Nikita Gusev would be better or both
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
Sekera?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:03 PM ET
Sekera?
- redmonsters

Eh
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:16 PM ET
Sekera?
- redmonsters



He's only played 50 games over the last two seasons due to injury and isn't getting any younger.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 30 @ 1:18 PM ET
So no one likes Nichushkin then ?

Although Nikita Gusev would be better or both

- cu45161


It’s nothing against getting one of these guys but it isn’t the one significant move we are looking for.

Since we don’t actually know Hall will resign I’d try for someone really established and productive.

Also, Boyle is pretty done. No need to sign him.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
What about nichuskin's zero goals is attractive.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:56 PM ET
What about nichuskin's zero goals is attractive.
- Pomegrant

HES A BIG NET FRONT PRESENCE
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 30 @ 2:10 PM ET
What about nichuskin's zero goals is attractive.
- Pomegrant


Ever hear of analytics?



Kidding.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
Ever hear of analytics?



Kidding.

- Queenie_5_hole

For a guy who scored no goals and had almost no other offensive contribution, his metrics aren't the worst. Just based on his body of work why would anybody sign him.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
For a guy who scored no goals and had almost no other offensive contribution, his metrics aren't the worst. Just based on his body of work why would anybody sign him.
- Pomegrant



PTO?

But really IDK why.
Gio's Devil's
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.17.2019

Jun 30 @ 2:55 PM ET
WE DO NOT HAVE A TON OF CAP SPACE LEFT UNLESS WE WANT TO BE NEXT YR'S VEGAS!!!

LET ME BREAK IT DOWN:

All using Cap Friendly & Spotrac

We're basically at 15 contracts & $54. Add Ty, Boqvist, Hughes = $56.75 @18 contracts. I don't see Hayden as an NHL player so take him out & we're at 17 contracts $56. This is where Ray is gonna earn his paycheck. We've got Zacha, Butcher, Mueller, Carrick to sign. We'll use the writers $7 and add in Carrick to that. That's now 21 contracts at $63. We'll stop right there. If we're going to add free agents we'll need 1 or 2 spots for them. If we don't add anyone else & just go with Anderson & Bastian (Rooney is included in the 15) we'd be at 23 contracts $64.5.

Now we go to next yr. Assuming Sami & Greene come off that's $10. We'll use the 21 contracts at $63 so it shows how much more we can spend for 2019. So Sami & Greene's $10 off puts us at $53. Hall from $6 to $11.5 is a $5.5 raise. Nico [email protected]$7.5. $6.5 raise. Bratt @$3.5 & Blackwood @$3.5 is $5.5 raise. That takes us from $53 to $70.5. Rooney would come off so we're basically at $70 @ 18 contracts. This is also using all minimums. Bratt & Bwood are the wild cards here. With a 50+ pt season from Bratt he gets more than $3.5. if Bwood takes the starting job & has a great playoff run he could go way up. If Shero duplicates Seversons offer of long term @$4 for Butcher we just went up $2.5. So let's say minimum 18 contracts @$70 & maximum 18 contracts @$75. Adding a $5 contract this yr leaves us at $75-$80 with 19 contracts next yr. If we're at $80 and our D consists of PK, Sevs, Butch, Ty, Mueller, Carrick. We already need to add to that or take a big step back. If Ty is struggling we're in a lot of trouble & limited Cap space. Now if we were to sign Gardiner or a solid Dman I'm totally good with a big signing because it goes to what we'll need next yr.

What Zacha, Butcher, Mueller, & Carrick get this yr is gonna be huge!!!

If we have a great 19-20 that more than likely will push up what we'll pay for Nico, Bratt, Blackwood, & Rooney.

I'd be comfortable spending another $5. More comfortable if it was on D. The more we spend this yr the more we're handcuffed on spending next season. We're already gonna have a ton of new faces with PK, Hughes, Ty, Boqvist. I'd much rather see where this team is at & spend during the season, at the deadline, in trades, etc then spend to what puts us at the Cap next yr & not be able to make any significant moves.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:20 PM ET
PTO?

But really IDK why.

- Queenie_5_hole

He might be a serviceable 4th line checker at near league minimum. But he'll probably get more in Russia anyway.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
He might be a serviceable 4th line checker at near league minimum. But he'll probably get more in Russia anyway.
- Pomegrant



If we are going out and signing 4th liners I'd rather take another chance on Boyle, we could do worse than a 20 point center who was fairly effective on our PP and won't be a headache like it seems Nichushkin will be. My bet is that if an NHL team signs Nichushkin he bolts to the KHL as soon as he doesn't like his ice time/contract.
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Jun 30 @ 5:37 PM ET
It’s nothing against getting one of these guys but it isn’t the one significant move we are looking for.

Since we don’t actually know Hall will resign I’d try for someone really established and productive.

Also, Boyle is pretty done. No need to sign him.

- Queenie_5_hole

How is Boyle done? He’s 34 and has averaged 13 goals a year for the last 5 years playing 4th line minutes he’s the perfect 4th Line center who can be a net front presence on the PP
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:44 PM ET
For a guy who scored no goals and had almost no other offensive contribution, his metrics aren't the worst. Just based on his body of work why would anybody sign him.
- Pomegrant

HE JUST DIDNT WANT TO PLAY IN DALLAS
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
How is Boyle done? He’s 34 and has averaged 13 goals a year for the last 5 years playing 4th line minutes he’s the perfect 4th Line center who can be a net front presence on the PP
- Devils314


Todd did a piece on how Boyle wasn't driving play and was pretty bad 5 v 5. He's just slow and getting old. Yes, he can score a few garbage goals on the PP but that's what your getting. He can't fight for poop and unless it's hockey fights cancer night you aren't going to notice him.... except maybe trying to hustle his ass back into the play that just went blowing past him. OLD+SLOW=NO.

There are supposedly several teams interested in him so he's not likely to be back anyway. And if you don't like my opinion you can take comfort in the fact Ray Ray doesn't ask me to approve signings anyway. But for what you'd be getting anyway you may as well sign Kevin Rooney, pocket the savings and enjoy watching someone 8 years younger get up and down the ice.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
HE JUST DIDNT WANT TO PLAY IN DALLAS
- shvingter88

lol the narrative of "you can't teach size" is so great. Guy can't score his entire career but people still want him.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 30 @ 7:29 PM ET
lol the narrative of "you can't teach size" is so great. Guy can't score his entire career but people still want him.
- Pomegrant


Size is important. Anyone who tells you different you're either 'dating' or they're lying to you. It's just the way it is...

I got a buddy who worked for the press in Hartford. He occasionally was in the locker room and told me Kevin Deneen's nickname should have been 'little ween'.
It's funny cause it's true. I mean probably true.

But none of this is what you meant so carry on.

Brian Boyle is big. We should (frank)ing sign that guy.

MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:09 PM ET
I thought free agency began tomorrow...?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:12 PM ET
I thought free agency began tomorrow...?
- MartysBetter88

Lol yeah we know a ton already. Pavelski, Zuccarello, Connoly
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:27 PM ET
Kenny Agostino is going to the leafs. Good for him thought he played well during his time in NJ.
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