Jan Levine: Hockey Buzz Mock Draft: Minn pick is in, ANA on clock, thoughts on Trouba
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Tough call on Trouba. That’s a steep price to pay but I think as long as we sign Panarin Buch is expendable.

Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Chytil Kravtsov
Lemeuix Andersson Strome

Skjei Trouba
Hajek ADA
Staal Fox
Lindgren

I like it

You have to give to get:
Trouba would be an undeniable top pair defenseman for this team for YEARS to come. You make the trade only contingent if you can sign him --- 7 x $7.5 and you don't look back! The same argument I used to obtain Fox : young, talented, right-handed and AVAILABLE defensemen are unicorns --- for us to obtain 2 in one off-season would be AMAZING!

20th overall, Lias, Vesey and Pionk = DONE! Would even add slightly more if pressed.

Skjei and Trouba would be a great, long-term, top pairing for this team, cannot believe those here that would hesitate on this.

Go Gorton Go!

Tough call on Trouba. That’s a steep price to pay but I think as long as we sign Panarin Buch is expendable.

Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Chytil Kravtsov
Lemeuix Andersson Strome

Skjei Trouba
Hajek ADA
Staal Fox
Lindgren

I like it
- nyrangers9479

Getting Trouba without giving up 1 of Miller, Kratsov or Chytil. Totally going happen.

Don't forget that his hometown team in Detroit is also rumored to be very interested in acquiring Trouba. Should they, or either the Devils with their glut of top young prospects, or the Isles decide to be heavily involved with offers, I would instead consider a much cheaper cost option on a two year deal in bringing back Adam McQuaid as a UFA if reaching the market.

McQuaid when healthy & in the lineup played well defensively, & when partnered with Skjei, provided good chemistry which allowed Skjei's game to return to the playing level that was expected as per his contract. McQuaid is a team first player, in making whatever sacrifice is necessary to both protect his teammates, and win. He would be a good mentor for what is currently the second youngest average age team in the league.

You have to give to get:
Trouba would be an undeniable top pair defenseman for this team for YEARS to come. You make the trade only contingent if you can sign him --- 7 x $7.5 and you don't look back! The same argument I used to obtain Fox : young, talented, right-handed and AVAILABLE defensemen are unicorns --- for us to obtain 2 in one off-season would be AMAZING!

20th overall, Lias, Vesey and Pionk = DONE! Would even add slightly more if pressed.

Skjei and Trouba would be a great, long-term, top pairing for this team, cannot believe those here that would hesitate on this.

Go Gorton Go!
- TommyGTrain

The issue as of now is that the Jets are not permitting any teams to have contract negotiating talks done at all with Trouba.

At this point, until hearing of what other teams may be officially offering the Jets, if indeed that word should ever get out there, any deal combination of players centered around Lias being the main playing piece to go along with the 20th overall pick, will likely not be enough to acquire Trouba.

Getting Trouba without giving up 1 of Miller, Kratsov or Chytil. Totally going happen.
- tomburton99

The proposal was Buch Nils 20. Go back to ur hole

You have to give to get:
Trouba would be an undeniable top pair defenseman for this team for YEARS to come. You make the trade only contingent if you can sign him --- 7 x $7.5 and you don't look back! The same argument I used to obtain Fox : young, talented, right-handed and AVAILABLE defensemen are unicorns --- for us to obtain 2 in one off-season would be AMAZING!

20th overall, Lias, Vesey and Pionk = DONE! Would even add slightly more if pressed.

Skjei and Trouba would be a great, long-term, top pairing for this team, cannot believe those here that would hesitate on this.

Go Gorton Go!
- TommyGTrain

I think we’re selling Lias very cheap here. Give him another year and let’s see what we have.

Don't forget that his hometown team in Detroit is also rumored to be very interested in acquiring Trouba. Should they, or either the Devils with their glut of top young prospects, or the Isles decide to be heavily involved with offers, I would instead consider a much cheaper cost option on a two year deal in bringing back Adam McQuaid as a UFA if reaching the market.

McQuaid when healthy & in the lineup played well defensively, & when partnered with Skjei, provided good chemistry which allowed Skjei's game to return to the playing level that was expected as per his contract. McQuaid is a team first player, in making whatever sacrifice is necessary to both protect his teammates, and win. He would be a good mentor for what is currently the second youngest average age team in the league.
- RangerSaver

If we missed on Trouba I wouldn’t be opposed on signing McQuaid on a 1 or 2 year deal

Well this better be the greatest pick the ducks ever made.

Tough call on Trouba. That’s a steep price to pay but I think as long as we sign Panarin Buch is expendable.

Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Chytil Kravtsov
Lemeuix Andersson Strome

Skjei Trouba
Hajek ADA
Staal Fox
Lindgren

I like it
- nyrangers9479

I agree that if that current rumor out there is a fact, it is too high a price for the Rangers to pay to acquire Trouba. Acquiring Trouba would assure that a buyout of Shatty &/or Smith is a must, especially after no other team was interested in acquiring either, despite the Rangers willingness to pick up 50% of their remaining contracts. That's why Gorton has to have an alternative plan in mind to improve his back line for the coming season, starting with a lower cost means for one, in re-uniting with McQuaid on a two years deal.

There is also no guarantee by the end of next weekend's Draft, that any definitive word on Panarin's long term future will be known. In contrary, by then the odds are greater that Trouba will have either already been dealt most likely elsewhere, (if those Jets rumored demands wanted from the Rangers in return had never lowered), or that Trouba & Winnipeg will have agreed to terms on a new contract to remain there & avoid becoming an RFA.

There is always the sign and trade.

There is always the sign and trade.
- wreckage

that's that thing they do in the NBA

I am warming up more to the Trouba idea than I ever was

I like the idea of 3 assets only

20th overall
Lias
DeAngelo (my preference over Lundkvist)

I am fine with the future right side of blue line being Trouba, Fox, Lundqvist as we head into the roaring 20's

just some feedback about the draft:

I'd prefer that picks not get traded and teams just make their pick when it comes

Welp, back to the grind. Vacation was fun while it lasted. Anyway, I don't think Buch is untradable. He did really come on at the end of last year, but I still don't think we have seen enough consistency to really consider him part of the core moving forward. My biggest issue with Trouba is that I think the contract is going to be way to big for what he is. He's pretty much a solid second pairing guy on a contending team. I don't want to pay him like a 1D.

I think ADA actually has a ceiling of a 1D. I'm not sure what his chances are of getting there. I'd rather roll the dice on someone who might become that guy than someone who we pretty much know exactly what he is.

Welp, back to the grind. Vacation was fun while it lasted. Anyway, I don't think Buch is untradable. He did really come on at the end of last year, but I still don't think we have seen enough consistency to really consider him part of the core moving forward. My biggest issue with Trouba is that I think the contract is going to be way to big for what he is. He's pretty much a solid second pairing guy on a contending team. I don't want to pay him like a 1D.

I think ADA actually has a ceiling of a 1D. I'm not sure what his chances are of getting there. I'd rather roll the dice on someone who might become that guy than someone who we pretty much know exactly what he is.
- 2sticks1puck

it is amazing that Trouba is considered a polished player, he is who he is, and Tony D is still considered a developing player and these guys are virtually the same age

it is amazing that Trouba is considered a polished player, he is who he is, and Tony D is still considered a developing player and these guys are virtually the same age
- jimbro83

On that part of the age curve, 2 years is a lot of difference. I know it's sort of a dangerous exercise to do, but if you extrapolate ADA's numbers for a full season, he would have almost matched Trouba's 50 points. That's also with better underlying numbers and probably a much cheaper contract. It's very much possible that ADA's season was an aberration, but if he's a mistake it will cost you much much less than if Trouba is a mistake.

ADA will never be a Norris contender, but again I'd rather roll with the guy who at least as shown potential of growing into a top pair role, than someone who probably is exactly who he is.

On that part of the age curve, 2 years is a lot of difference. I know it's sort of a dangerous exercise to do, but if you extrapolate ADA's numbers for a full season, he would have almost matched Trouba's 50 points. That's also with better underlying numbers and probably a much cheaper contract. It's very much possible that ADA's season was an aberration, but if he's a mistake it will cost you much much less than if Trouba is a mistake.

ADA will never be a Norris contender, but again I'd rather roll with the guy who at least as shown potential of growing into a top pair role, than someone who probably is exactly who he is.
- 2sticks1puck

the other option would be to keep ADA and to instead include Lundkvist in the deal

but if they have both Tony D and Trouba on the right side, they have to protect both in expansion draft

Can’t we just pick players? Everyone trying to be a big deal GM with all these trades. Just pick your position

the other option would be to keep ADA and to instead include Lundkvist in the deal

but if they have both Tony D and Trouba on the right side, they have to protect both in expansion draft
- jimbro83

No, I really hope they steer clear of Trouba. As you pointed out earlier, we need to win while people are making pennies. ADA is a bunch closer to making pennies than Trouba will ever be. A ADA-Fox-Shatty right side is solid enough as is. Then we could start bringing people up eventually.

No, I really hope they steer clear of Trouba. As you pointed out earlier, we need to win while people are making pennies. ADA is a bunch closer to making pennies than Trouba will ever be. A ADA-Fox-Shatty right side is solid enough as is. Then we could start bringing people up eventually.
- 2sticks1puck

ultimately I probably agree with this, but I think the reality is, they are speaking to the Jets about Trouba. I definitely believe they are in it.

Can’t we just pick players? Everyone trying to be a big deal GM with all these trades. Just pick your position
- halo63

yeah, it's hard to believe people who come to a hockey rumour site every day of their lives are wanna be NHL GM's

yeah, it's hard to believe people who come to a hockey rumour site every day of their lives are wanna be NHL GM's
- jimbro83

4 days

I am at the beach with a beer in my hand all week, keep me updated Jimbo

If we missed on Trouba I wouldn’t be opposed on signing McQuaid on a 1 or 2 year deal
- nyrangers9479

TOTALLY FAIR VALUE! NOT BIASED AT ALL!