Ty Smith & 2-2nds.
Jets want a young D & picks for cap space.
- Nighthawk

No (frank)ing way

Trouba is good but some of these people are making it seem like it's Scott Niedermayer or something.

would we do Boqvist + Bratt for Trouba? WITH some of our picks?

You gotta lose some to get some. Bratt + our early 2nd won't get it done.

Severson + Bratt for Trouba? Vats+Bratt+2nd? hm.

Severson is on the books for a pleasant 4mil for the next 5 seasons. Vats only has next season left, so he won't have as much value in a trade as Severson.

I'd love to send Wood the other way in a deal.

Trouba and Smith in our top 4 would be a nice foundation. Severson in there wouldn't be bad, but do you feel confident when you think of Severson? eh. We'd need a 3rd guy in that top 4. Severson, to me, is a #4 dman. Smith or Trouba would be his better half. But we'd need someone to play on the top pair next to Smith/Trouba.
- MartysBetter88

Vatanen and a second should be the max for trouba

Trouba is good but some of these people are making it seem like it's Scott Niedermayer or something.
- Pomegrant

I can’t believe some of these mock trades

Trouba is good but some of these people are making it seem like it's Scott Niedermayer or something.
- Pomegrant

Some of these people are making it seem like Ty Smith is the next Scott Neidermayer.

(frank)ing nobody except (frank)ing Scott Neidermayer is Scott (frank)ing Neidermayer.

Vatanen and a second should be the max for trouba
- shvingter88

I'd do Vats+Zacha. I'd hate to lose Bratt but if he's involved I'd probably be ok with it. Definitely hope that Smith isn't involved though.

This deal wouldn't happen as it not nearly enough from NJ for those three players. Also it does not improve the Jets as they can get much better deals trading them individually. Plus Hall will want more money to resign then the Jets have cap space for.
- islansjet

Good luck getting a hart trophy winner for Trouba then.

I'd do Vats+Zacha. I'd hate to lose Bratt but if he's involved I'd probably be ok with it. Definitely hope that Smith isn't involved though.
- rmdevil313

Yeah I would do that too

Vatanen and a second should be the max for trouba
- shvingter88

Is this offer based on 1 year of Trouba or Trouba signed to an extension?
With Karlsson re-signing in SJ, the price for Trouba just went up. Like I said earlier, NJ doesn't have the assets to make this work unless they grossly over-pay.

Is this offer based on 1 year of Trouba or Trouba signed to an extension?
With Karlsson re-signing in SJ, the price for Trouba just went up. Like I said earlier, NJ doesn't have the assets to make this work unless they grossly over-pay.
- mcjags

Trouba is out of contract now. He's an RFA so you are trading for his restricted rights. So the extension has to be a part of the deal or at least some assurance you aren't trading for an ugly hold out situation.

Vats has 1 year left which isn't ideal for Winnipeg either.

Todd Cordell: Are the New Jersey Devils targeting Jacob Trouba?
- Todd.Cordell

If Larry Brooks is anywhere near correct, then no deal. Smith and Bo are just too important.
Vats at 50% retained + Zacha and a 2nd rd pick would work.

young puck moving, smooth skating D lineup of:

Butcher Trouba
Smith Severson
Davies/Greene Carrick

Not giving up our CHL D of the year for a guy who finally put up good offensive numbers 6 years into his career, and has glaring errors in his own zone. Otherwise keep Smith and add Gardiner on a 2 year deal.

Let’s turn this into a blockbuster:

To NJ: Jacob Trouba, Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Damon Severson, Taylor Hall, one of NJ 2nd round picks
- TheUltimateJet

Haha!!!! Honestly if we wanted an offensive D (who actually produces far more regularly than Trouba), who is questionable in his own zone and likely to be overpaid, we would scoop up Gardiner. Trouba had a career high 33 points in his first 5 seasons, and finally had one good offensive season. Personally, I consider Damon Severson an equal in terms of ceiling, but with a vastly better contract. And Hall.......WOW!!! maybe if you swap out Connor and Ras with Lowry the deal could get done. Last thing the Jets need is another C.

Laughable trade proposal. If the Isles offered you Noah Dobson and a 1st, you would be foolish to pass.

Trouba is out of contract now. He's an RFA so you are trading for his restricted rights. So the extension has to be a part of the deal or at least some assurance you aren't trading for an ugly hold out situation.

Vats has 1 year left which isn't ideal for Winnipeg either.
- Queenie_5_hole

Kind of the point I'm making. I would assume an extension would have to be a part of this. I don't see how a 25 Year old RHD with 6 years in the NHL coming off a 50 point season who is in his prime is worth Vats and a 2nd. I'm not a Trouba fan at all but c'mon.

And I am no way saying I want NJ to get him. I've watched him the last 6 years and have witnessed so many D zone giveaways I've been advocating that he gets traded for the last 3 years. Someone will overpay though.

Sharks dishing out the big bucks for Karlsson.

Kind of the point I'm making. I would assume an extension would have to be a part of this. I don't see how a 25 Year old RHD with 6 years in the NHL coming off a 50 point season who is in his prime is worth Vats and a 2nd. I'm not a Trouba fan at all but c'mon.

And I am no way saying I want NJ to get him. I've watched him the last 6 years and have witnessed so many D zone giveaways I've been advocating that he gets traded for the last 3 years. Someone will overpay though.
- mcjags

I haven't seen Trouba enough to know if he's a good move for us or not. I mean with our D I'm sure he'd help but I can't say if he's worth the cost. So I'm in no way advocating for getting him (or not).

What I don't get is that our problem is playing real defense then needing someone who can drive play from the back end. Severson, Vats and Butcher are acceptable all around defender and puck movers. Why can't we find someone who lock down the defensive zone and make a clearing pass? Should be easier then these pipe dreams about Subban, Karlsson and Trouba.

I mean we lost out on Shattenkirk and surprise; he can't (frank)ing play defense. Everyone's looking for offensive defenseman. Can we get some real defensive defenseman?

Sharks dishing out the big bucks for Karlsson.
- Pomegrant

They're now a cap crunched team: they got 12M to pay Pavelski, Meier, Labanc, and some more forwards.

Unless they're basically telling Pavelski to go away... Meier and Labanc alone might consume that cash.

Wonder if they've become a team you can target an RFA like Meier with a big offer sheet that they won't be able to pay. Meier could be that RW the Devils are looking for.

They're now a cap crunched team: they got 12M to pay Pavelski, Meier, Labanc, and some more forwards.

Unless they're basically telling Pavelski to go away... Meier and Labanc alone might consume that cash.

Wonder if they've become a team you can target an RFA like Meier with a big offer sheet that they won't be able to pay. Meier could be that RW the Devils are looking for.
- archromat

You think an argument could be had that a team that doesn't tie up their salary around a few players will have better depth and maybe even a better team? The salary cap going up will just let the elites get paid more. Maybe its wiser to steer away from that and pony up for the nyquist's of the NHL to give 3-4 lines of depth ?

Also, they basically doubled his salary - considering he'll spend more time on the IR and only has a few quality years left. This is going to burn them really bad in 3-4 yrs.

You think an argument could be had that a team that doesn't tie up their salary around a few players will have better depth and maybe even a better team? The salary cap going up will just let the elites get paid more. Maybe its wiser to steer away from that and pony up for the nyquist's of the NHL to give 3-4 lines of depth ?

Also, they basically doubled his salary - considering he'll spend more time on the IR and only has a few quality years left. This is going to burn them really bad in 3-4 yrs.
- Leniwm1

Bruins and Blues - one gander at their cap structure might suggest everyone else is doing it wrong.

I'm guessing in the next CBA, they're going to look at alternative ways for stars to make more cash without damaging salary structure in the league: otherwise, the NHLPA is going to have to step up and tell top player agents to stop driving up contracts for star players so that the rest of the players get paid.

Obviously, what they don't want is teams like the Maple Leafs or the Rangers attracting all the absolute superstars because they can just throw them 40M, but at this point, as long as their contracts are pushing cap% on a team, the structure isn't going to work for the rest of the players and they're going to try to squeeze cash from the owners who don't have the cash they think they do.

No (frank)ing way
- shvingter88

Agreed. Let's let Stafford/Agostino/Gabrial walk. Keep Rooney in Bing, and pick the Sharks graveyard. Lots of good players that clearly will be displaced.

Agreed. Let's let Stafford/Agostino/Gabrial walk. Keep Rooney in Bing, and pick the Sharks graveyard. Lots of good players that clearly will be displaced.
- bikeguy99

Why keep Rooney over Agostino? We probably need centers less then left wingers. We really need guys on the right side.

Totally onboard with losing Stafford and Gabriel. Wish we had traded for Lemieux or drafted him instead of Q. Speaking of, John Q is another center....

They're now a cap crunched team: they got 12M to pay Pavelski, Meier, Labanc, and some more forwards.

Unless they're basically telling Pavelski to go away... Meier and Labanc alone might consume that cash.

Wonder if they've become a team you can target an RFA like Meier with a big offer sheet that they won't be able to pay. Meier could be that RW the Devils are looking for.
- archromat

All in on Meier. The offer sheet path solves a lot of problems for the Devs. Free agency won't work. Drafting will, but then you wonder about time horizon. I know it has not happened recently,but Devs could blow away one of these RFAs with $, the cash strpped team cannot match. After winning the lotterry 2 out of three years, I feel OK losing those future picks, which will not align with the time horizon. Also consider the silly money deals we have seen, Karlsson and Skinner, some owners are beyond crazy and will inflate the FA market. RFA might be a cheaper solution for a younger palyer.

Number 20 and a defensemen is all it took huh?

@CapFriendly
TRADE:

To Winnipeg #Jets
D Neal Pionk (RFA rights)
2019 1st round pick (#20 - Originally WPG's pick)

To New York #Rangers
D Jacob Trouba (RFA rights)

I thought Trouba was worth Crosby but I guess we're all wrong sometimes.

All in on Meier. The offer sheet path solves a lot of problems for the Devs. Free agency won't work. Drafting will, but then you wonder about time horizon. I know it has not happened recently,but Devs could blow away one of these RFAs with $, the cash strpped team cannot match. After winning the lotterry 2 out of three years, I feel OK losing those future picks, which will not align with the time horizon. Also consider the silly money deals we have seen, Karlsson and Skinner, some owners are beyond crazy and will inflate the FA market. RFA might be a cheaper solution for a younger palyer.
- redmonsters

Meier has to be one of the last players SJ wants to lose, for the exact reason of him being young and up-and-coming.

Number 20 and a defensemen is all it took huh?
- willschulme

you're kidding me. what a joke.