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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 14 @ 7:24 PM ET
Woo has to go back to Jr?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 14 @ 7:26 PM ET
Woo has to go back to Jr?
- Nighthawk


Or he can play in the show. Word is he'd rather return to junior because the jerseys are nicer.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:26 PM ET
Flyers have to retain 1/3 salary and Niskanen thinks he had an off year last year. Still a good deal IMO. I seen they are targeting Kadri also and maybe Trouba . Swinging for the fences this year.
- VANTEL

Niskanen is a good pick up. Needed a guy like him to steady things. AV will get them scoring, ghost/porvorov could easily get north of 50 in his system.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:27 PM ET
Or he can play in the show. Word is he'd rather return to junior because the jerseys are nicer.
- golfingsince

I thought it was just cause the team was better?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:31 PM ET
Or he can play in the show. Word is he'd rather return to junior because the jerseys are nicer.
- golfingsince


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 14 @ 7:32 PM ET
Or he can play in the show. Word is he'd rather return to junior because the jerseys are nicer.
- golfingsince

Aah good hockey IQ šŸ‘šŸ˜‚
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:32 PM ET
Still too young for Comets. Probably back to Jr.
- VANTEL

Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 14 @ 7:33 PM ET
What would it take to get Gostisbehere out of Philly? Heā€™s being shopped. Would Virtanen and a 2020 second do it? Or add Hutton other than the second.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:34 PM ET
Or he can play in the show. Word is he'd rather return to junior because the jerseys are nicer.
- golfingsince

Understandable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:51 PM ET

- 1970vintage



He's not wrong
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:52 PM ET
What would it take to get Gostisbehere out of Philly? Heā€™s being shopped. Would Virtanen and a 2020 second do it? Or add Hutton other than the second.
- Supirium99



There will be about 10 teams bidding
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:58 PM ET
There will be about 10 teams bidding
- VANTEL


And Raymond, Ballard and.a second isnā€™t enough?


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:00 PM ET
And Raymond, Ballard and.a second isnā€™t enough?



- 1970vintage



Back in the day that would have been a sweet deal
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 14 @ 8:19 PM ET
There will be about 10 teams bidding
- VANTEL

For sure. Was just talking with a philly friend of mine about it and wanted to know some other opinions of what itā€™d take. Personally mine was virtanen and Tanev for Ghost and a 2nd this year. I could be way off though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:39 PM ET
For sure. Was just talking with a philly friend of mine about it and wanted to know some other opinions of what itā€™d take. Personally mine was virtanen and Tanev for Ghost and a 2nd this year. I could be way off though.
- Supirium99


I think he would be costly, a first Jake and a guy like Tryamkin. I personally would not pursue him.

All the big trades seem to center around Dmen . Other teams will have interest in guys like Woo and OJ also in a few years . This is why I want Canucks drafting Dmen with the first and second round. They have extremely high trade value down the road.

If a guy like Rafferty or Eliot turn out that is a bonus but the the big tickets are high drafted Dmen.

Look at what a guy like Brandon Carlo could fetch now and he was selected 37 th.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 8:47 PM ET
I think he would be costly, a first Jake and a guy like Tryamkin. I personally would not pursue him.

All the big trades seem to center around Dmen . Other teams will have interest in guys like Woo and OJ also in a few years . This is why I want Canucks drafting Dmen with the first and second round. They have extremely high trade value down the road.

If a guy like Rafferty or Eliot turn out that is a bonus but the the big tickets are high drafted Dmen.

Look at what a guy like Brandon Carlo could fetch now and he was selected 37 th.

- VANTEL


According to our resident note taker, Carlo is a 5th defenseman.
Would love to have a couple defensemen like Carlo Pietrangelo or Parayko.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:48 PM ET
According to our resident note taker, Carlo is a 5th defenseman.
Would love to have a couple defensemen like Carlo Pietrangelo or Parayko.

- Reubenkincade


Even bringing back Tryamkin on a three year deal would fetch a huge return if he was over here playing
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 14 @ 8:51 PM ET
I think he would be costly, a first Jake and a guy like Tryamkin. I personally would not pursue him.

All the big trades seem to center around Dmen . Other teams will have interest in guys like Woo and OJ also in a few years . This is why I want Canucks drafting Dmen with the first and second round. They have extremely high trade value down the road.

If a guy like Rafferty or Eliot turn out that is a bonus but the the big tickets are high drafted Dmen.

Look at what a guy like Brandon Carlo could fetch now and he was selected 37 th.

- VANTEL

Get more picks & use 2nds & 3rds on D.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:54 PM ET
Get more picks & use 2nds & 3rds on D.
- Nighthawk


If I wanted to do it that way would I have not said that?


High picks= first round picks not third round
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 14 @ 8:56 PM ET
I think he would be costly, a first Jake and a guy like Tryamkin. I personally would not pursue him.

All the big trades seem to center around Dmen . Other teams will have interest in guys like Woo and OJ also in a few years . This is why I want Canucks drafting Dmen with the first and second round. They have extremely high trade value down the road.

If a guy like Rafferty or Eliot turn out that is a bonus but the the big tickets are high drafted Dmen.

Look at what a guy like Brandon Carlo could fetch now and he was selected 37 th.

- VANTEL

Fair enough. Iā€™d probably do a version of your trade to be honest. I have a huge liking for offensive thinking d men though. Thanks for the input.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:59 PM ET
Fair enough. Iā€™d probably do a version of your trade to be honest. I have a huge liking for offensive thinking d men though. Thanks for the input.
- Supirium99

He is a young player so it might be worth persuing
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 14 @ 9:08 PM ET
He is a young player so it might be worth persuing
- VANTEL

Him and Colin Miller. Thatā€™s my d wish list ask this off-season. No more Loui is a give in also.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:10 PM ET
Him and Colin Miller. Thatā€™s my d wish list ask this off-season. No more Loui is a give in also.
- Supirium99


It is a good list
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 14 @ 9:11 PM ET
Fair enough. Iā€™d probably do a version of your trade to be honest. I have a huge liking for offensive thinking d men though. Thanks for the input.
- Supirium99


I wouldn't do that.

I think trading a 1st round pick at this point is detrimental to the organization for that kind of return. That 1st round pick could look pretty good in 3 years.

We have a young offensive talent coming to our blue line, let's let him show what he can do.
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 14 @ 9:14 PM ET
It is a good list
- VANTEL

Costly dreams for sure but the d game change alone would be insane. With Hughes in As well thatā€™s a fun d group.
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