Matt Ross: All The Kings Men Cast: Phaneuf and Quick

Honestly, besides Kopitar & Doughty other roster players should go, need to get younger & faster and thats either thru drafting well or smart trades.

I just don't see JQ being the problem with this team, and with either Campbell or Peterson, if one of them falters even a little bit, this team is giving up 5-8 EVERY NIGHT. The D is just not good enough to bail out a goaltender anymore. But on the other hand, aside from an aging Carter, I don't see anyone being interested in other Kings players. I'm just glad it's not my decision to make... but if the team is going to suck then I'd rather JQ retire a King.

Honestly, besides Kopitar & Doughty other roster players should go, need to get younger & faster and thats either thru drafting well or smart trades.
- Hell_Bent

Agreed with you on the need for good drafting and smart trades, Hell_Bent

I just don't see JQ being the problem with this team, and with either Campbell or Peterson, if one of them falters even a little bit, this team is giving up 5-8 EVERY NIGHT. The D is just not good enough to bail out a goaltender anymore. But on the other hand, aside from an aging Carter, I don't see anyone being interested in other Kings players. I'm just glad it's not my decision to make... but if the team is going to suck then I'd rather JQ retire a King.
- Stu17

Do you make a business decision if the right offer comes for JQ or do you stick to the same mistake that Lombardi did and keep them because of loyalty? If you look at his game stats for the season he gave up many 5-8 goals in the game (10 to be exact) because of this D. The numbers look scarier if you look at the 4-8 goals (17). I hope Quick retires as a King but I also wouldn't mind if he decided to retire earlier or find his resurgence like Fleury elsewhere.

I just don't see JQ being the problem with this team, and with either Campbell or Peterson, if one of them falters even a little bit, this team is giving up 5-8 EVERY NIGHT. The D is just not good enough to bail out a goaltender anymore. But on the other hand, aside from an aging Carter, I don't see anyone being interested in other Kings players. I'm just glad it's not my decision to make... but if the team is going to suck then I'd rather JQ retire a King.
- Stu17

Hey Stu,

I don't think JQ is the problem either, as there are a number of areas that could be addressed. I think the idea of trading him now is made thinking that you can still get some pretty good pieces back for him - maybe prospects, picks, younger guys already in the league or some kind of package combo of the three?

I hear you on it being a decision we don't have to make

Do you make a business decision if the right offer comes for JQ or do you stick to the same mistake that Lombardi did and keep them because of loyalty? If you look at his game stats for the season he gave up many 5-8 goals in the game (10 to be exact) because of this D. The numbers look scarier if you look at the 4-8 goals (17). I hope Quick retires as a King but I also wouldn't mind if he decided to retire earlier or find his resurgence like Fleury elsewhere.
- kingsfan626

Good points, Kingsfan626

Do you make the tough decision to move on because it could benefit the organization, or do you hold onto him for the loyalty aspect and because he's a fan favorite?

Might have to take the chance with this rebuild and have the Vince McMahon approach :

"I'm not afraid of failing. I don't like to fail. I hate to fail. But I'm not afraid of it."

If it worked out, Blake would be walking to the rink like this everyday. HA!:

Phaneuf back to Calgary for James Neal and a second.

The Kings should have traded Quick and kept Jones imo. Quick had value then and Jones would have been ideal. Younger. A lot cheaper. And produce just as good. Now we have an even older Quick with a contract that will be hard to move and yet another chance we lose another young, cheap and good goalie in Campbell as I am sure he wants to be a #1 for any team.

If you can trade Quick now then you do it. He has had too many major injuries lately and Campbell can handle the job.

The Kings should have traded Quick and kept Jones imo. Quick had value then and Jones would have been ideal. Younger. A lot cheaper. And produce just as good. Now we have an even older Quick with a contract that will be hard to move and yet another chance we lose another young, cheap and good goalie in Campbell as I am sure he wants to be a #1 for any team.

If you can trade Quick now then you do it. He has had too many major injuries lately and Campbell can handle the job.
- Bojangle

I’m down with giving Campbell the push, Bojangle and giving him that #1 spot by moving Quick out.

What’s the plan if that happens? Does Petersen become the backup, or find someone else on a short deal and Cal get a little more experience before bringing him up for good?

I’m down with giving Campbell the push, Bojangle and giving him that #1 spot by moving Quick out.

What’s the plan if that happens? Does Petersen become the backup, or find someone else on a short deal and Cal get a little more experience before bringing him up for good?
- Matt Ross

I feel Petersen should be the back up then for at least a season. Even though most of this core is still here (I seriously hope Carter, Brown and even Kopitar get traded so the Kings can do a real rebuild and have the youth step up and lead), the Kings aren't going to compete for a Cup anytime soon so having Petersen start as backup for now wouldn't hurt. He did quite well when he had his chances. IF the Kings get a good offer for him, then I wouldn't be upset if they traded him and bring up another goalie as backup. I just think Campbell should be the #1 going forward and as much as I love Quick and what he has done, it is time to move on from him before we lose yet another talented goalie like Jones.

I feel Petersen should be the back up then for at least a season. Even though most of this core is still here (I seriously hope Carter, Brown and even Kopitar get traded so the Kings can do a real rebuild and have the youth step up and lead), the Kings aren't going to compete for a Cup anytime soon so having Petersen start as backup for now wouldn't hurt. He did quite well when he had his chances. IF the Kings get a good offer for him, then I wouldn't be upset if they traded him and bring up another goalie as backup. I just think Campbell should be the #1 going forward and as much as I love Quick and what he has done, it is time to move on from him before we lose yet another talented goalie like Jones.
- Bojangle

I like Petersen’s game, too. Feels like there’s some good potential there. I don’t think I’d trade him, though. Guess it would depend on what the offer would be.

A Campbell/Petersen tandem could be pretty cool.

In any of these discussions, it seems folks are too dismissive of the cap, salaries, and the age of the vets that they want shipped out. Carter, Brown, Dion, Quick: who is going to take these deals on? Carter is the only one who's salary is appreciably below his cap hit next year. He might be attractive to a cap floor team. Quick is set to earn 7mm this year with a 5.8mm cap hit.

We are going to ride most of these contracts out. Best to accept this reality.

Do whatever needs to be done to land another top 5 pick next year.

Quick, Carter, phaneuf all need to be gone.

Let the kids play

In any of these discussions, it seems folks are too dismissive of the cap, salaries, and the age of the vets that they want shipped out. Carter, Brown, Dion, Quick: who is going to take these deals on? Carter is the only one who's salary is appreciably below his cap hit next year. He might be attractive to a cap floor team. Quick is set to earn 7mm this year with a 5.8mm cap hit.

We are going to ride most of these contracts out. Best to accept this reality.
- Only_A_Ladd

Great point, man.

I do think some teams who are in "win now" mode might look at Quick, or some of the other guys that need to be moved out, a little differently.

But some of the contracts are rough. Haha. Kings might have to eat money, or settle for (lower) return if it means someone is willing to take on any of those contracts.

I guess no would be the time to do it. Just take picks and prospects (if possible).

Do whatever needs to be done to land another top 5 pick next year.

Quick, Carter, phaneuf all need to be gone.

Let the kids play
- KINGS67

For me. We trade Quick for w/e the best possible return is. And let Peterson and Campbell take over. Also doing w/e you can to not take back big salary in a Quick trade. I dont see a point in buying out Phaneuf this year unless they really want to open a spot for a youngster. Id rather buy him out next year or possibly not all.

Quick will forever be a legend for LA fans and the org. But its a business and at his age now. We cant afford to lose what we have in Peterson.

Well, I think almost all of us are in agreement that we should trade Quick if we can get a reasonable return. I'll let management know we've come to a decision.

Well, I think almost all of us are in agreement that we should trade Quick if we can get a reasonable return. I'll let management know we've come to a decision.
- GregDM

Thanks, Greg. Please CC us on the email.

For me. We trade Quick for w/e the best possible return is. And let Peterson and Campbell take over. Also doing w/e you can to not take back big salary in a Quick trade. I dont see a point in buying out Phaneuf this year unless they really want to open a spot for a youngster. Id rather buy him out next year or possibly not all.

Quick will forever be a legend for LA fans and the org. But its a business and at his age now. We cant afford to lose what we have in Peterson.
- poisondhearts37

I agree that swapping big contracts in a Quick deal would be counterintuitive.

In any of these discussions, it seems folks are too dismissive of the cap, salaries, and the age of the vets that they want shipped out. Carter, Brown, Dion, Quick: who is going to take these deals on? Carter is the only one who's salary is appreciably below his cap hit next year. He might be attractive to a cap floor team. Quick is set to earn 7mm this year with a 5.8mm cap hit.

We are going to ride most of these contracts out. Best to accept this reality.
- Only_a_Ladd

Dion - likely going to be bought out
Carter - Pretty sure a Cup contending team will take him at the deadline. I think him being injured for a week or so just before the deadline put people off.
Quick - Just have to pray some team will want him and get moved this summer. granted the Kings may need to eat some of his salary but I would take that over him staying on the roster and being the #1 guy still when imo as of now he isn't nor should be.
Brown - With his past 2 seasons of good play, there could be a team now with interest.

I agree that swapping big contracts in a Quick deal would be counterintuitive.

The exception might be if you can take one back that expires in say 2020 instead of Quick's 2023. I think we'll really want to have cap space in 2-3 years when we could get good again.

Outsider here....who the hell would want Quick. He used to be good ....and still is when NOT injured. However he is ALWAYS injured. Way to much of a liability this late in his career.

Outsider here....who the hell would want Quick. He used to be good ....and still is when NOT injured. However he is ALWAYS injured. Way to much of a liability this late in his career.
- 5Hole Mgee

Im not going to suggest he nets some huge return. But Quick is very much of interest to a team who desperately needs a goalie. His numbers have always been good. This past season his numbers are bad. But the entire team was bad.

The exception might be if you can take one back that expires in say 2020 instead of Quick's 2023. I think we'll really want to have cap space in 2-3 years when we could get good again.
- GregDM

Excellent point.