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Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
Draisatl proved he can carry his own line. Look at his stats from his rookie year! That is also the most asinine comment I have ever read on this board!

Furthermore, Eberle, Lucic and Maroon all played with McDavid as well.

- TheUltimateJet

I get it, your still mad the Florida writer quoted a couple of us and not you, no worries, have a great long weekend.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
I get it, your still mad the Florida writer quoted a couple of us and not you, no worries, have a great long weekend.
- Ross77


Not mad at all. If I wrote about Myers or our other #5-6 d-men as much as the rest of the posters, I probably would have been quoted as well.

Good long weekend to you too!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 17 @ 7:03 PM ET
I get it, your still mad the Florida writer quoted a couple of us and not you, no worries, have a great long weekend.
- Ross77


Also sorry for calling your comment asinine.
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

May 17 @ 7:22 PM ET
If I'm Yzerman, I would offer Athanasiou (C), Hronek (RHD) and a 1st round pick to Winnipeg in exchange for J. Trouba. Do you like this trade offer Jets fans?
- batman8990

Um, if this was actually offered there is no way Chevy could turn that down. The only way an offer like that comes for Trouba is if Detroit was allowed to negotiate an extension beforehand. Even then I think it would be an overpay by Detroit. Hronek is going to be a legit Top 2. I'm not sure if Athanasiou is actually playing centre or wing now though.
DrunkenCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto , ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

May 17 @ 7:23 PM ET

To WPG: Nylander Kadri Dermott

To TOR: Laine Trouba
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 17 @ 8:44 PM ET
Also sorry for calling your comment asinine.
- TheUltimateJet

All good
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 17 @ 8:51 PM ET
Two things from Frank Seravali interview on 1290 this afternoon.

-he mentioned Shiefele, Wheeler and Morrisey are all training together with Adam Oates already. That’s great but I have to say since I had heard rumours 55&26 were actually not that close or getting along based on rumours I was told. This news today would obviously go against that so it’s important to me I mention that. Also, should we not be offering Oates an assistant coaching job by now?

-secondly, he mentioned the Avs and Detroit as interested in Trouba. I for one never buy into the whole “don’t trade within your division BS”. If the Avs make the best offer, take it!! If they give us the 4th overall and Connor Timmons (although I’d need to know more about his health) I’d take it.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 17 @ 10:50 PM ET
To WPG: Nylander Kadri Dermott

To TOR: Laine Trouba

- DrunkenCanuck

How about just Kadri and a second round pick for Trouba?
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 17 @ 11:35 PM ET
To WPG: Nylander Kadri Dermott

To TOR: Laine Trouba

- DrunkenCanuck



I make that trade all day. The trick is to find a RD (3M) to play with Morrissey. re-sign Myers, Tanev, Copp and deal Perrault and Kulikov this year, Little next year.
Ehlers-Scheif-Wheeler, Connor-Kadri-Nylander, Tanev-Lowry-Copp, and Appleton-Little-Roslovic with Vesalainen waiting in the wings. look pretty good to me.
Next year one might have to deal Kadri but with Nylander ready to step in, and Jacko moving up
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
I make that trade all day. The trick is to find a RD (3M) to play with Morrissey. re-sign Myers, Tanev, Copp and deal Perrault and Kulikov this year, Little next year.
Ehlers-Scheif-Wheeler, Connor-Kadri-Nylander, Tanev-Lowry-Copp, and Appleton-Little-Roslovic with Vesalainen waiting in the wings. look pretty good to me.
Next year one might have to deal Kadri but with Nylander ready to step in, and Jacko moving up

- grahamzky

I am not as high on Tanev as some are. I think a guy like Dano can do what he can.

Otherwise, I really like your line combinations.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 18 @ 3:26 PM ET
I am not as high on Tanev as some are. I think a guy like Dano can do what he can.

Otherwise, I really like your line combinations.

- TheUltimateJet



Love Brandon Tanev, no one works harder than Tanev. Really hope he's resigned. Don't have quite the same opinion on Dano as you, but seemingly a good team guy.
One thing the Jets might do is get Kadri and move him for a d-man? Then it might be someone like Roslovic/Appleton moving to second line? Might that work better?
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 18 @ 3:39 PM ET
How about just Kadri and a second round pick for Trouba?
- TheUltimateJet


Good lord
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Ehlers was on pace for 28 goals and 48 points this past year. Good luck convincing anyone that Draisaitl and Ehlers are close to equal.
- BWJumper


And? Points aren’t typically a reliable measuring stick for players. Actually, I never look at points when comparing players.

Nikolaj Ehlers is our best winger, by some distance, and would likely hit 90 points with a full season of Scheifele and a team with a system that doesn’t drown all offensive players
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
I am not as high on Tanev as some are. I think a guy like Dano can do what he can.

Otherwise, I really like your line combinations.

- TheUltimateJet

I agree with you about tanev, can’t over pay this guy
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 18 @ 5:45 PM ET
Good lord
- Rexypoo

What would you say would be a good return for Trouba? Please give a trade scenario you think is fair.

Thank you!
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 18 @ 6:15 PM ET
What would you say would be a good return for Trouba? Please give a trade scenario you think is fair.

Thank you!

- TheUltimateJet


-Player of equal value (Lindholm?)
-Roster dman, top d prospect, 1st rounder
DrunkenCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto , ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

May 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
How about just Kadri and a second round pick for Trouba?
- TheUltimateJet


Too Rich for the Leafs. Close though

Kadri Zaitsev for Trouba Little?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 18 @ 9:38 PM ET
-Player of equal value (Lindholm?)
-Roster dman, top d prospect, 1st rounder

- Rexypoo

There is not one team in the NHL that would give you that. If they do, they should fire their GM.

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 18 @ 9:38 PM ET
Too Rich for the Leafs. Close though

Kadri Zaitsev for Trouba Little?

- DrunkenCanuck

I would do this! I know the Jets are not going to get a defenseman of equal or better caliber. I am willing to upgrade another position in the interim.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
And? Points aren’t typically a reliable measuring stick for players. Actually, I never look at points when comparing players.

Nikolaj Ehlers is our best winger, by some distance, and would likely hit 90 points with a full season of Scheifele and a team with a system that doesn’t drown all offensive players

- Rexypoo

I love Ehlers and no way is Maurice giving him a full season with Scheifele.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 18 @ 9:43 PM ET
There is not one team in the NHL that would give you that. If they do, they should fire their GM.


- TheUltimateJet


You keep making the mistake of trading him as the player you think he is in your personal opinion.
Our opinions don’t matter.
The numbers don’t matter.

To NHL GMs, perception is reality. The perception around Trouba is that he’s a big, fast dman who logs heavy minutes against top players, has elite defensive ability, and just dropped 50 points. He’s also in the middle of his prime, and has been known to be hitty. His value could quietly rival Karlsson’s just by virtue of comparative age and health
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
I love Ehlers and no way is Maurice giving him a full season with Scheifele.
- TheUltimateJet


Love Ehlers as well. Connor and Nicky are untouchable IMO.
No there is no way Ehlers will get 82 games with Scheif-Wheeler - but most night think it will be Ehlers-Schef-Wheeler or Connor-Scheif-Wheeler - that gives them the best chance to win.
Can't play all 82 games with the same lines, gotta be prepared for injuries.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
I would do this! I know the Jets are not going to get a defenseman of equal or better caliber. I am willing to upgrade another position in the interim.
- TheUltimateJet


Zaitsev is a "no way" IMO. Let the Leafs pay for their mistake.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 18 @ 10:19 PM ET
What would you say would be a good return for Trouba? Please give a trade scenario you think is fair.

Thank you!

- TheUltimateJet


Liked the previous trade suggestion - Laine and Trouba for Nylander (dynamite), Kadri and Dermott (injured but potential).
Yes the Leafs would have Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Laine to pay - but that's their problem.
Trouba alone? Signed - would expect either a decent young RFA NHL "D" with potential, a prospect, plus a draft choice; or a good young NHL C plus a draft choice (or plus a prospect depending on the draft choice).
Trouba is not chopped liver!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 18 @ 11:22 PM ET
Liked the previous trade suggestion - Laine and Trouba for Nylander (dynamite), Kadri and Dermott (injured but potential).
Yes the Leafs would have Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Laine to pay - but that's their problem.
Trouba alone? Signed - would expect either a decent young RFA NHL "D" with potential, a prospect, plus a draft choice; or a good young NHL C plus a draft choice (or plus a prospect depending on the draft choice).
Trouba is not chopped liver!

- grahamzky

Never said Trouba was chopped liver. I expect to get for Trouba, what Calgary got for Hamilton, or what Ottawa got for Karlsson.
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