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grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
If I'm Yzerman, I would offer Athanasiou (C), Hronek (RHD) and a 1st round pick to Winnipeg in exchange for J. Trouba. Do you like this trade offer Jets fans?
- batman8990


Would certainly be worth consideration. Can we do better? That is the question. Trouba would no doubt re-sign in Detroit, so maybe worth more?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 16 @ 11:22 PM ET
If I'm Yzerman, I would offer Athanasiou (C), Hronek (RHD) and a 1st round pick to Winnipeg in exchange for J. Trouba. Do you like this trade offer Jets fans?
- batman8990

I do this trade everyday all day
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 16 @ 11:24 PM ET
Holy macamonees, you have Lowry on every deal? Edmonton goes deep into the playoffs with this compliment of Jets.
- CharlieDog

And then the Jets beat them to advance to the cup final courtesy of Draisatl.
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 16 @ 11:36 PM ET
If I'm Yzerman, I would offer Athanasiou (C), Hronek (RHD) and a 1st round pick to Winnipeg in exchange for J. Trouba. Do you like this trade offer Jets fans?
- batman8990


yes please, this is the ideal return for us but extremely unlikely and red wing fans will laugh hysterically at it.

but i'm glad you threw it out there, lets hope it gains momentum lol
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 16 @ 11:38 PM ET
Sorry I don't think Chevy would make his trade as the Jets would want a better center and don't need a prospect like Hronek. The #1 is great however.
- islansjet

seriously? this is the ideal return, we are not getting a #1 center for Trouba, wont happen
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 16 @ 11:39 PM ET
whats very clear is how upset some fans will be in the Trouba return, I think we need to temper expectations asap
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 17 @ 12:16 AM ET
I love Ehlers but if it nets us a #1 Center, I am willing to make the sacrifice.

To EDM: Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry, 2019 second round pick, Dylan Sandburg

To WPG: Leon Draisatl

- TheUltimateJet


Massive overpay
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 17 @ 12:17 AM ET
I would rather the Jets turn this into a package deal.

To Buff: Adam Lowry, Jacob Trouba, 2019 second round pick

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt, Rasmuss Ristolainen, 2019 first round pick

- TheUltimateJet


I wouldn’t touch Risto.

Reinhart for Trouba in some form has my attention
CharlieDog
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 17 @ 8:07 AM ET
Massive overpay
- Rexypoo


Thank you Rexy. 👍
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

May 17 @ 9:09 AM ET
Massive overpay
- Rexypoo


So what's a 50 goal 100 point C worth Rexpoo?
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 17 @ 9:39 AM ET
So what's a 50 goal 100 point C worth Rexpoo?
- BWJumper


When he does it at C, without McD, I’ll let you know
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
When he does it at C, without McD, I’ll let you know
- Rexypoo


I think he can totally do it. Edmonton has a lack of quality wingers. Draisatl was putting up similar numbers in his rookie season with RNH and Taylor Hall. I can see him putting up those numbers with Kyle Connor and Jack Roslovic.
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
I love Ehlers but if it nets us a #1 Center, I am willing to make the sacrifice.

To EDM: Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry, 2019 second round pick, Dylan Sandburg

To WPG: Leon Draisatl

- TheUltimateJet



Rule of thumb is that the team getting the best player wins the trade but the only way this trade happens is if Edmonton is unhappy with Draisatl, that offer isn't going to do it.

My personal rule of thumb for western conference teams is that you don't do a deal that might help the Oil while McDavid is in his prime.

So on the whole both sides say 'no'.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
I think he can totally do it. Edmonton has a lack of quality wingers. Draisatl was putting up similar numbers in his rookie season with RNH and Taylor Hall. I can see him putting up those numbers with Kyle Connor and Jack Roslovic.
- TheUltimateJet


My argument here isn’t against Draisaitl being a top level player.
My argument is that the two are close enough in value that it isn’t worth adding so much. Ehlers isn’t far behind
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
My argument here isn’t against Draisaitl being a top level player.
My argument is that the two are close enough in value that it isn’t worth adding so much. Ehlers isn’t far behind

- Rexypoo


I love Ehlers, but until the day he scores 50/50, you cannot make that argument.
Babych's Moustache
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 05.13.2019

May 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Holy macamonees, you have Lowry on every deal? Edmonton goes deep into the playoffs with this compliment of Jets.
- CharlieDog


Yeah, I'd rather keep Lowry a Jet as long as possible. He and Morissey are the future leaders of the team.
islansjet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 03.13.2017

May 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
I love Ehlers, but until the day he scores 50/50, you cannot make that argument.
- TheUltimateJet

Ehlers has the ability to drive the play but needs to have the right players to play with. If he was on McD line it could be scary. Draisaitl doesn't need McD to drive a line of his own as was shown when McD was out of the line up. If the Jets could ever pry Draisaitl out of Edmonton they should do it. Ehlers, Trouba, Copp for Draisaitl and a 1st could do it as it addresses the Jets need for a solid #2 center and a draft choice while the Oilers get a true top pairing d-man, a winger for McD and a good 3rd line center/winger.
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 17 @ 12:22 PM ET
If you are pittsburg and looking to shed some salary, get younger and stay competitive would you consider Letang and Bjugstad for Trouba? Do they really need Bjugstad with Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel and more down the middle?

Jets get a 2C candidate at 4.1 mil with only 2 years term and star d (when healthy) with similar money to what trouba will get for 3 years. (again not a long term). Letang has 18 team NMC, Bjugstad is from Minneapolis.

Salary added but can be saved elsewhere.
islansjet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 03.13.2017

May 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
If you are pittsburg and looking to shed some salary, get younger and stay competitive would you consider Letang and Bjugstad for Trouba? Do they really need Bjugstad with Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel and more down the middle?

Jets get a 2C candidate at 4.1 mil with only 2 years term and star d (when healthy) with similar money to what trouba will get for 3 years. (again not a long term). Letang has 18 team NMC, Bjugstad is from Minneapolis.

Salary added but can be saved elsewhere.

- 2.0

This trade won't happen as Letang at 32 is paid more than what Trouba is asking and Bjugstad salary would put the Jets i even more cap trouble.
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
I love Ehlers, but until the day he scores 50/50, you cannot make that argument.
- TheUltimateJet


when has ehlers played with McDavid?
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 17 @ 1:21 PM ET
This trade won't happen as Letang at 32 is paid more than what Trouba is asking and Bjugstad salary would put the Jets i even more cap trouble.
- islansjet


Letang is paid 7.5, Trouba was asking for that on his last contract negotiation, and it's about 2m higher than current trouba hit. the 4.1 for Bjugstad is similar to Hayes contract. Bottom line is that if the teams like the hockey side of this they can make it happen for cap without too much trouble.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 17 @ 2:20 PM ET
when has ehlers played with McDavid?
- Ross77


Draisatl proved he can carry his own line. Look at his stats from his rookie year! That is also the most asinine comment I have ever read on this board!

Furthermore, Eberle, Lucic and Maroon all played with McDavid as well.
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
Draisatl proved he can carry his own line. Look at his stats from his rookie year! That is also the most asinine comment I have ever read on this board!

Furthermore, Eberle, Lucic and Maroon all played with McDavid as well.

- TheUltimateJet



I can think of worse, i apologized for most of them.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

May 17 @ 2:42 PM ET
My argument here isn’t against Draisaitl being a top level player.
My argument is that the two are close enough in value that it isn’t worth adding so much. Ehlers isn’t far behind

- Rexypoo


Ehlers was on pace for 28 goals and 48 points this past year. Good luck convincing anyone that Draisaitl and Ehlers are close to equal.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

May 17 @ 2:52 PM ET
Draisatl proved he can carry his own line. Look at his stats from his rookie year! That is also the most asinine comment I have ever read on this board!

Furthermore, Eberle, Lucic and Maroon all played with McDavid as well.

- TheUltimateJet


Take it easy Ultimate.

If you look at the stats they compliment each other.
At even strength
McDavid with Draisaitl 888 mins goals for 75
McDavid w/o Draisaitl 576 mins goals for 22
Draisaitl w/o McDavid 594 mins goals for 19
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