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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 4:51 PM ET
I'll condense the argument:

Recent 7th overall picks:

Kadri
Scheifele
Skinner
Andersson
Provorov
Keller
Dumba
H. Fleury
Nurse

Depending on your point of view, Trouba is at least as good as many of these guys, and is better than some. He turned 25 two months ago, and would balance our d pairs, while allowing us to safely move Risto for much-needed forward help. He is more stable defensively than Risto, and more suited to a partnership with Dahlin than Risto or Montour. His addition, plus the return for Risto, coupled with smart signings and the development of young players means that we'd have a good team. My perfect off-season looks like this

To TBL - Risto, Blues 2021 2nd
To Buf - Callahan, Cirelli

To WPG - 7oa
To But - Trouba

To Dallas - Scandella
To Buf - 5th round pick

Sign: Skinner, Hayes, Dzingel

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-Hayes-Dzingel
Cirelli/Mitts-Mitts/Cirelli-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Callahan
Asplund
Sobotka

Dahlin-Trouba
McCabe-Montour
Pilut-Bogo
Hunwick

Still have next year's 1st and pick #30. I think it would be a decent team

- jcragcrumple


Hayes, Skinner, Dzingel and Trouba are all getting paid this summer. Even if you move Risto/Scandella, its unlikely that team is cap compliant

Edit: you're taking on callahan's deal too...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 4:53 PM ET
I'll condense the argument:

Recent 7th overall picks:

Kadri
Scheifele
Skinner
Andersson
Provorov
Keller
Dumba
H. Fleury
Nurse

Depending on your point of view, Trouba is at least as good as many of these guys, and is better than some. He turned 25 two months ago, and would balance our d pairs, while allowing us to safely move Risto for much-needed forward help. He is more stable defensively than Risto, and more suited to a partnership with Dahlin than Risto or Montour. His addition, plus the return for Risto, coupled with smart signings and the development of young players means that we'd have a good team. My perfect off-season looks like this

To TBL - Risto, Blues 2021 2nd
To Buf - Callahan, Cirelli

To WPG - 7oa
To But - Trouba

To Dallas - Scandella
To Buf - 5th round pick

Sign: Skinner, Hayes, Dzingel

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-Hayes-Dzingel
Cirelli/Mitts-Mitts/Cirelli-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Callahan
Asplund
Sobotka

Dahlin-Trouba
McCabe-Montour
Pilut-Bogo
Hunwick

Still have next year's 1st and pick #30. I think it would be a decent team

- jcragcrumple

You turn the salary cap off I take it?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 4:55 PM ET
You turn the salary cap off I take it?
- Feds91Stammer



Everybody's taking pay cuts to go to buffalo. They all want to be there for the unveiling of the second peace bridge.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Southampton. He's a bum, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 4:56 PM ET
Hayes, Skinner, Dzingel and Trouba are all getting paid this summer. Even if you move Risto/Scandella, its unlikely that team is cap compliant

Edit: you're taking on callahan's deal too...

- Sabresfan-365


I haven't run it through cap friendly.

I figure $8.5 for Skinner, $6 for Hayes, Dzingel ($5?) Callahan $6 - that's 25ish

Money out - $11m from Risto and scandella.

I actually think it approximately works
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'll condense the argument:

Recent 7th overall picks:

Kadri
Scheifele
Skinner
Andersson
Provorov
Keller
Dumba
H. Fleury
Nurse

Depending on your point of view, Trouba is at least as good as many of these guys, and is better than some. He turned 25 two months ago, and would balance our d pairs, while allowing us to safely move Risto for much-needed forward help. He is more stable defensively than Risto, and more suited to a partnership with Dahlin than Risto or Montour. His addition, plus the return for Risto, coupled with smart signings and the development of young players means that we'd have a good team. My perfect off-season looks like this

To TBL - Risto, Blues 2021 2nd
To Buf - Callahan, Cirelli

To WPG - 7oa
To But - Trouba

To Dallas - Scandella
To Buf - 5th round pick

Sign: Skinner, Hayes, Dzingel

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-Hayes-Dzingel
Cirelli/Mitts-Mitts/Cirelli-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Callahan
Asplund
Sobotka

Dahlin-Trouba
McCabe-Montour
Pilut-Bogo
Hunwick

Still have next year's 1st and pick #30. I think it would be a decent team

- jcragcrumple


Not bad, but I really don't want to give up the 7th OA for a D man. I would rather draft Caufield, i know he is small but I really think he is going to light up the NHL for years... The league is getting smaller and faster....
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 16 @ 4:57 PM ET
Nobody cares
- Boss34


Wrong.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 4:58 PM ET
I haven't run it through cap friendly.

I figure $8.5 for Skinner, $6 for Hayes, Dzingel ($5?) Callahan $6 - that's 24ish

Money out - $11m from Risto and scandella.

I actually think it approximately works

- jcragcrumple



risto is 5.4, scandella is 4. that's 9.4 mil

Edit: Huh I think it might actually work.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Southampton. He's a bum, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
risto is 5.4, scandella is 4. that's 9.4 mil
- Sabresfan-365



Edit: forgot Trouba too. I'll run it through cap friendly and do it right. I'ma have to trade that late first to get rid of Okposo
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
I haven't run it through cap friendly.

I figure $8.5 for Skinner, $6 for Hayes, Dzingel ($5?) Callahan $6 - that's 25ish

Money out - $11m from Risto and scandella.

I actually think it approximately works

- jcragcrumple

its 26ish on your estimates

and money out is 9.4

Not gonna work.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
risto is 5.4, scandella is 4. that's 9.4 mil

Edit: Huh I think it might actually work.

- Sabresfan-365

As long as Trouba plays for free.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 5:01 PM ET
risto is 5.4, scandella is 4. that's 9.4 mil
- Sabresfan-365


I have been beating the trade Risto drum for a while, but only if we are getting a poop ton in return.

now if we can get (trade or FA sign) a #2 Center and get Skinner Signed, even if it does cost 18-20 mill a year combined, we would then have 2 solid scoring lines, and a thrid tht can score with Mitts centering. that takes a lot of pressure off your goalies and D... keep Risto, his contract is very good
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:02 PM ET
As long as Trouba plays for free.
- Feds91Stammer


Trouba-7
Skinner-8.5
Dzingel-5
Hayes-6
Callahan-5.8


Risto-5.4
Scandella-4

Sabres have about 29 mil in space before these moves (assuming an upper limit of 83 mil)

It can work...for a year.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:02 PM ET
I have been beating the trade Risto drum for a while, but only if we are getting a poop ton in return.

now if we can get (trade or FA sign) a #2 Center and get Skinner Signed, even if it does cost 18-20 mill a year combined, we would then have 2 solid scoring lines, and a thrid tht can score with Mitts centering. that takes a lot of pressure off your goalies and D... keep Risto, his contract is very good

- hehateme


I don't think his contract is good
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 16 @ 5:03 PM ET

- washedup20


Checkmate
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Southampton. He's a bum, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 5:03 PM ET
Trouba-7
Skinner-8.5
Dzingel-5
Hayes-6
Callahan-5.8


Risto-5.4
Scandella-4

Sabres have about 29 mil in space before these moves (assuming an upper limit of 83 mil)

It can work...for a year.

- Sabresfan-365


Thank you for doing the hard math for me (not sarcasm) Callahan and Bogo drop out after next year. I don't think it's crazy
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 5:03 PM ET
Trouba-7
Skinner-8.5
Dzingel-5
Hayes-6
Callahan-5.8


Risto-5.4
Scandella-4

Sabres have about 29 mil in space before these moves (assuming an upper limit of 83 mil)

It can work...for a year.

- Sabresfan-365

If they plan on rolling with a 19 man roster maybe.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:04 PM ET
If they plan on rolling with a 19 man roster maybe.
- Feds91Stammer


...no?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:06 PM ET
Thank you for doing the hard math for me (not sarcasm) Callahan and Bogo drop out after next year. I don't think it's crazy
- jcragcrumple


Idk, Reinhart due next year, you could probably bridge Mittelstadt but it makes things really tight leading up to whatever dahlin gets and if you have to make any other adjustments.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 5:09 PM ET
Idk, Reinhart due next year, you could probably bridge Mittelstadt but it makes things really tight leading up to whatever dahlin gets and if you have to make any other adjustments.
- Sabresfan-365

Montour too.

Maybe it squeezes under cap in year 1 but it cripples you long term without making them a contender.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:09 PM ET
Montour too.

Maybe it squeezes under cap in year 1 but it cripples you long term without making them a contender.

- Feds91Stammer



I agree I was just impressed that it worked out for this year.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Southampton. He's a bum, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 5:12 PM ET
I agree I was just impressed that it worked out for this year.
- Sabresfan-365


*Bows and leaves*

No follow up questions
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:12 PM ET
*Bows and leaves*

No follow up questions

- jcragcrumple



I missed your location, who said that?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Southampton. He's a bum, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
I missed your location, who said that?
- Sabresfan-365


It's a bastardized version of a quote from a certain grumpy poster who said of Grönborg: "I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Sweden. He's a bum." I tweaked it to fit Krueger
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
PLY 2001–02 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals
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PLY 2006–07 Won J. Ross Robertson Cup
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- Der Kaiser



That can’t be real ..
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:21 PM ET
It's a bastardized version of a quote from a certain grumpy poster who said of Grönborg: "I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Sweden. He's a bum." I tweaked it to fit Krueger
- jcragcrumple




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