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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:54 PM ET
If the south was eliminated what would of happened to the champions of social justice, the democratic party?
- corduroy

Southern democrats are pretty much the Republican Party today
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 22 @ 8:54 PM ET
I am not quite sure how to comment on this at all. I just thank God that I was born into a family where I was taught skin colour and ethnic backgound was a non-issue in any aspect. My parents grew up in the 1930s and 40s.
- sabreadvocate1


Actually they are very much an issue and very important. Why? Because they are part of the person's experience with life. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

I think what you meant to say is that you do not judge anyone by their skin color or ethnic background, which is commendable, but to say they are not an issue is incorrect.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
Comcast and Wells Fargo with morality after their corporate BS is laughable.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
How annoyed are you statue huggers™ that Gritty has been adopted as the anti fascist mascot all over the internet?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 22 @ 9:11 PM ET
Southern democrats are pretty much the Republican Party today
- 2Real


Not even close to being true. You really DO drink the koolaid don't you?


Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
Hah classic can’t handle the changing times.
- 2Real


It has been said “He who argues with a fool, is but a fool himself”. I get that you are a moron, so I disengage, not because I can’t handle the changing times, but because refuse to. The times are only changing ever so slightly at this point. When it reaches the breaking point, I guarantee you will be on the losing side. Keep poking the beast. There an awful lot of people fed up with all this nonsense. Don’t be surprised when the switch gets flipped. I sincerely hope we can avoid it and build a bridge within a united community, but people with your narrow minded, intollerant, and singular views, are preventing it. Seems like the ones preaching tolerance and inclusion, are the least tolerant and inclusive!!

Now go away, you’re annoying AND ignorant!
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
How annoyed are you statue huggers™ that Gritty has been adopted as the anti fascist mascot all over the internet?
- hereticpride


My sister is dating a French model she met on the internet. Bonjour.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:21 PM ET
I’m sure quite a few businesses do but the well run and good companies have a set of core values and stick by them.
One example is Chick Fil A. They got tons of backlash and still do because they stand by their values and don’t change because the heat is on.
As a matter of fact I’d say the social media push to hurt their business back fired.
You, know I’m right.

- bird_dog_pa


There's always outliers. Obviously the best way to look at it is what happens in general.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
IMO


In this current version of the world this was a loss loss scenario meaning their really is no good or correct move to make but the steps taken were the best of a bad list of options.

The people of this country are equal parts more in touch with their emotions, a good thing, and more prone to being snowflakes then at any other time I can remember and so doing nothing would have resulted in a lot of unnecessary drama.

Do I find it ridiculous that a rapper can spew out racists or misogynistic lyrics under the guise of artistic creativity without anyone pointing the finger while another flavor of singer apparently can't do the same thing..I sure do but that is the way life is.

That being said Im a big follower of Jocko Willink and his philosophy of Extreme Ownership. Meaning many things but one of them is that their is no such thing as a bad team , just bad leaders. If the leadership group responsible for the decision to erase this sad part of history would have allowed the statue and song to stay then they were telling those the lead that you can behave this way without consequences and that when you accept failure then failure becomes acceptable.

Im short while their was no right move to make doing nothing to address this would have been the worst choice of all.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
There's always outliers. Obviously the best way to look at it is what happens in general.
- MJL


Of course when your wrong that’s the reply to use.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:02 PM ET
You nailed it Bill. Wonderful blog.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:09 PM ET
Damn this Nashville power play blows
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:10 PM ET
Not even close to being true. You really DO drink the koolaid don't you?
- MBFlyerfan


He lives in California all they have to drink is koolaid
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
IMO


In this current version of the world this was a loss loss scenario meaning their really is no good or correct move to make but the steps taken were the best of a bad list of options.

The people of this country are equal parts more in touch with their emotions, a good thing, and more prone to being snowflakes then at any other time I can remember and so doing nothing would have resulted in a lot of unnecessary drama.

Do I find it ridiculous that a rapper can spew out racists or misogynistic lyrics under the guise of artistic creativity without anyone pointing the finger while another flavor of singer apparently can't do the same thing..I sure do but that is the way life is.

That being said Im a big follower of Jocko Willink and his philosophy of Extreme Ownership. Meaning many things but one of them is that their is no such thing as a bad team , just bad leaders. If the leadership group responsible for the decision to erase this sad part of history would have allowed the statue and song to stay then they were telling those the lead that you can behave this way without consequences and that when you accept failure then failure becomes acceptable.

Im short while their was no right move to make doing nothing to address this would have been the worst choice of all.

- opeth_pa


If the flyers had a backbone they would have came out of this fine. This can be addressed in one press release and if they had anyone articulate and intelligent working for them they would have been just fine.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
How annoyed are you statue huggers™ that Gritty has been adopted as the anti fascist mascot all over the internet?
- hereticpride


Not much... I dislike all sports mascots equally.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:17 PM ET
Hah classic can’t handle the changing times.
- 2Real


Hockey is for everyone except if your name is Kate Smith
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 22 @ 10:23 PM ET
Can’t believe fletcher hasn’t made a trade yet, his hands are more numb than Bran’s legs right now 🙄
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 22 @ 10:27 PM ET
Still no Simmonds?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 22 @ 10:35 PM ET
Isn’t it amazing that Robert kraft’s attorneys are claiming he and others we’re filmed illegally? Even if they were, really? lol
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
Isn’t it amazing that Robert kraft’s attorneys are claiming he and others we’re filmed illegally? Even if they were, really? lol
- funmaster18


The whole thing is gross
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Apr 22 @ 10:54 PM ET
Liberals ruin everything.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 11:21 PM ET
Still no Simmonds?
- funmaster18

Some guys here wanted to re up him to 7 mil a year during this season. Right now he might end up with not much more than half that. Talk about falling off a cliff.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 11:27 PM ET
IMO


In this current version of the world this was a loss loss scenario meaning their really is no good or correct move to make but the steps taken were the best of a bad list of options.

The people of this country are equal parts more in touch with their emotions, a good thing, and more prone to being snowflakes then at any other time I can remember and so doing nothing would have resulted in a lot of unnecessary drama.

Do I find it ridiculous that a rapper can spew out racists or misogynistic lyrics under the guise of artistic creativity without anyone pointing the finger while another flavor of singer apparently can't do the same thing..I sure do but that is the way life is.

That being said Im a big follower of Jocko Willink and his philosophy of Extreme Ownership. Meaning many things but one of them is that their is no such thing as a bad team , just bad leaders. If the leadership group responsible for the decision to erase this sad part of history would have allowed the statue and song to stay then they were telling those the lead that you can behave this way without consequences and that when you accept failure then failure becomes acceptable.

Im short while their was no right move to make doing nothing to address this would have been the worst choice of all.

- opeth_pa

Well said. With this viewpoint I really have no issue with how they handled the situation.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 22 @ 11:55 PM ET
Lol did simmonds even play
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 11:58 PM ET
If I just realized that if Carolina eliminates the Caps these playoffs are going to end up with the worst tv ratings in a longgggg time.
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