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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:17 PM ET
No but I’d heavily consider it if it helped us get someone
- sbroads24


Sure
I’d consider it to get a player back

I’m not moving that pick to get rid of Okposo though
No way
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 22 @ 8:21 PM ET
Sure
I’d consider it to get a player back

I’m not moving that pick to get rid of Okposo though
No way

- jdfitz77


What if freeing that salary cap space allows the Sabres to get an impactful player
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:27 PM ET
What if freeing that salary cap space allows the Sabres to get an impactful player
- jcragcrumple


As a UFA?
I’m not a fan of giving Duchene 9mil +
Or overpaying Hayes
*just for examples

Also...
We will have about 30mil in Cap Room for next year
Even if u sign Skinner at 9mil,
none of our RFAs will cost anything significant

There’s plenty of room to bring in a couple more guys
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:32 PM ET
Sure
I’d consider it to get a player back

I’m not moving that pick to get rid of Okposo though
No way

- jdfitz77

if the pick is in the late 20s, move it to shred that contract
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
if the pick is in the late 20s, move it to shred that contract
- Mentalorgasm5


I’d rather keep Okposo for one more year then give up a first rounder for nothing. Money shouldn’t be a problem for us. If we go over we can move Hunwick, Sobotka, Scandella, Sheary to become compliant.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:54 PM ET
I’d rather keep Okposo for one more year then give up a first rounder for nothing. Money shouldn’t be a problem for us. If we go over we can move Hunwick, Sobotka, Scandella, Sheary to become compliant.
- Pegullaville

It is not for nothing, it is for an extra 6 million dollars in space. I dont think there has ever been a UFA class this good.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
It is not for nothing, it is for an extra 6 million dollars in space. I dont think there has ever been a UFA class this good.
- Mentalorgasm5


Like I said we can move Sobotka, Hunwick, Scandella and recoup almost $11M right there.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
Like I said we can move Sobotka, Hunwick, Scandella and recoup almost $11M right there.
- Pegullaville



And okposo and save 17 million
Plus 6
Plus 6
Plus 6

- the 25th pick
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
It is not for nothing, it is for an extra 6 million dollars in space. I dont think there has ever been a UFA class this good.
- Mentalorgasm5


We're still talking about guys approaching 30, almost all are already in decline.

To put it in perspective, Okposo is one of the Sabres best UFA signings of all time, in terms of production as a Sabre.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:08 PM ET
And okposo and save 17 million
Plus 6
Plus 6
Plus 6

- the 25th pick

- Boss34


The 25th pick could acquire a top 6 forward that is younger then the guy you are going to sign in FA. Or we draft a player that plays a role on our team even if it’s a bottom 6 role at 950K. Those are gold. Not to be given away to get rid of a contract.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
Yeah, I have to admit growing up in Buffalo the Leafs were my 'second' team when they were in the Campbell conference. They had Eddie Olcyzk, Curtis Joseph ect.. And you had to watch Don Cherry during the intermission.

Nowadays I hate that they invade our arena and we suck so bad we just let em buy all our tickets. I also hate their 'center of the hockey universe' B.S. We had to settle for 'Hockey Heaven' B.S.

So yeah, Bruins in 7! And hopefully they get swept in the second round by the Islanders or whatever.

- notalent


My sentiments exactly.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
The 25th pick could acquire a top 6 forward that is younger then the guy you are going to sign in FA. Or we draft a player that plays a role on our team even if it’s a bottom 6 role at 950K. Those are gold. Not to be given away to get rid of a contract.
- Pegullaville



We both know there is no guarantee.

Or

We both should know there is no guarantee


These late firsts aren't sure bets
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:27 PM ET
I'm very happy to be here.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:28 PM ET
We both know there is no guarantee.

Or

We both should know there is no guarantee


These late firsts aren't sure bets

- Boss34


Someone will value that late first. We just got Montour using a late first and Guhle. What does a late first and Nylander get us ? Zucker ?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
The 25th pick could acquire a top 6 forward that is younger then the guy you are going to sign in FA. Or we draft a player that plays a role on our team even if it’s a bottom 6 role at 950K. Those are gold. Not to be given away to get rid of a contract.
- Pegullaville

Yes but it probably wont. I dont think people really realize how bad the NHL draft is. It is not the NFL
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:33 PM ET
poopty call on that Capitals (non)goal
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
Someone will value that late first. We just got Montour using a late first and Guhle. What does a late first and Nylander get us ? Zucker ?
- Pegullaville



That's a good point

I'm just worried about 6 million in years 1,2,3 and 4 left on the deal.

Hypothetically it could cost us a good free agent or homegrown talent (sure)

Also , the expansion draft.
He might cost us a 25th pick type guy

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:39 PM ET
That's a good point

I'm just worried about 6 million in years 1,2,3 and 4 left on the deal.

Hypothetically it could cost us a good free agent or homegrown talent (sure)

Also , the expansion draft.
He might cost us a 25th pick type guy

- Boss34


I’m not saying to not get rid of Okposo. I’m just saying he’s more tradable next offseason then this one. Maybe we give up a first rounder later on to get rid of his deal. I just don’t see the urgency to do it this offseason when even after signing Skinner we’d still have 16M and we can move out $11M in Sobotka, Hunwick, Scandella this offseason. Have another 7M in Sheary and Bogo coming off the year after.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
Yes but it probably wont. I dont think people really realize how bad the NHL draft is. It is not the NFL
- Mentalorgasm5

We all realize it.

The problem is this team will NEVER win a thing until they build a pipeline of talent that’s going to supplement this roster when 26,9,23,53 hopefully are all making 7-10 mil.

We will never contend without hitting a few home runs in the draft.

Murray (frank)ed this teams depth and cap so bad that this is legitimately rebuild 2.0
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 22 @ 9:44 PM ET
We all realize it.

The problem is this team will NEVER win a thing until they build a pipeline of talent that’s going to supplement this roster when 26,9,23,53 hopefully are all making 7-10 mil.

We will never contend without hitting a few home runs in the draft.

Murray (frank)ed this teams depth and cap so bad that this is legitimately rebuild 2.0

- sbroads24


2 options:

1) Use the pick and stock the cupboard

2) Use it to make a Montour esque deal to add to the forward group.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:48 PM ET
2 options:

1) Use the pick and stock the cupboard

2) Use it to make a Montour esque deal to add to the forward group.

- Pegullaville

If they trade it, it better be for a guy under 24
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 22 @ 9:51 PM ET
I’m not saying to not get rid of Okposo. I’m just saying he’s more tradable next offseason then this one. Maybe we give up a first rounder later on to get rid of his deal. I just don’t see the urgency to do it this offseason when even after signing Skinner we’d still have 16M and we can move out $11M in Sobotka, Hunwick, Scandella this offseason. Have another 7M in Sheary and Bogo coming off the year after.
- Pegullaville



Okposo is 5% of our team (1 out of 20 guys)
But makes up like 15% of the cap?

Some of these "just happy to be in the nhl guys" have to go. They are not winners. Okposo chose the $ to come to buffalo. Winners dont do that.

Hes a "happy to be alive guy"
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
We all realize it.

The problem is this team will NEVER win a thing until they build a pipeline of talent that’s going to supplement this roster when 26,9,23,53 hopefully are all making 7-10 mil.

We will never contend without hitting a few home runs in the draft.

Murray (frank)ed this teams depth and cap so bad that this is legitimately rebuild 2.0

- sbroads24

Sorry but Botts has made this cap worse.

Scandella, hunwick, pommer, and sheary (and according to some on here, he could have traded bogo his first offseason here, elected not to do it)
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
Sorry but Botts has made this cap worse.

Scandella, hunwick, pommer, and sheary (and according to some on here, he could have traded bogo his first offseason here, elected not to do it)

- Mentalorgasm5


Look at their commitments beyond this year and reassess.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:56 PM ET
Look at their commitments beyond this year and reassess.
- Lunaion

looks at the cap space before he acquired those players. Wonders what he could have used it on this year.
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