Like i said...
I’d obviously prefer not to have him

BUT since he’s actually putting up 14goals as a bottom6 player- he’s not as dreadful/useless/etc as ppl are saying

And since he does provide a bit (not a lot- i know) to the bottom6
I don’t wanna use that late 1st to get rid of him
Bc that’s what it would take

I wanna use that late 1st to continue building much needed talent

And unfortunately...
it might get to the point where we eventually have to bury him like we did Moulson
- jdfitz77

But he isn’t putting up 14 goals “as a bottom 6 player”

He put up 7, with 8 more on the PP where he wouldn’t get that ice time if he had any top 6 forward ahead of him.

That’s how to objectively evaluate him.

guys who put up similar numbers to okposo last season
simmonds
eriksson
e-rod
maroon
brad richardson
sam bennett
- homiedclown

Now do how many of them have a $6m cap hit over the next 4 years. Erikkson

The point is, he cramps our style on trade targets and FA acquisitions.

If Skinner signs, it sure would be nice to have more than $17 mil to sign 5 guys

But he isn’t putting up 14 goals “as a bottom 6 player”

He put up 7, with 8 more on the PP where he wouldn’t get that ice time if he had any top 6 forward ahead of him.

That’s how to objectively evaluate him.
- sbroads24

Even that is being kind.

Now do how many of them have a $6m cap hit over the next 4 years. Erikkson

The point is, he cramps our style on trade targets and FA acquisitions.

If Skinner signs, it sure would be nice to have more than $17 mil to sign 5 guys
- jcragcrumple

I'd give up the late first to move him

he doesn't check any boxes

1. can't score
2. no speed
3. no grit

addition by subtraction


I'd rather have reinhart, nylander and player x with a true scrub for 4th line

I like the age range you’re targeting

Cost might be too high for me considering we have Mitts as our “2C in waiting”
And we could be drafting another guy this year with that high of a ceiling also

I’m thinking more long term, than short term here
- jdfitz77

Hence why much earlier this season I was, and still am vocal about acquiring RNH.
- Age is perfect
- 2 years left is ok
- $6m for 65 - 75 points is terrific
- versatility to move to 2nd line wing for Mitts at 2c is valuable

I'd give up the late first to move him

he doesn't check any boxes

1. can't score
2. no speed
3. no grit

addition by subtraction




I'd rather have reinhart, nylander and player x with a true scrub for 4th line
- homiedclown

I kinda agree:

It changes another face of losing from the lockerroom

4. He cant fight
5. Injury prone/ dependability issues

Yes , if he is a 4th liner , he should have the ability to protect himself . Even better if he could: protect the other soft guys.

That's a straw man trade, so I'm not going to argue about that. There are numerous other options out there

But if you're asking me whether I'd have that late pick and Okposo over the cap space, I'll take the possibility of Duchene or Eberle over Okposo and Roslovic
- jcragcrumple

We see that differently i guess

Overpaying Duchene will end up being a mistake too

But he isn’t putting up 14 goals “as a bottom 6 player”

He put up 7, with 8 more on the PP where he wouldn’t get that ice time if he had any top 6 forward ahead of him.

That’s how to objectively evaluate him.
- sbroads24

Fair
Idk that we are bringing in enough guys that he’ll be knocked off the PP though?

And PP goals do count

Now do how many of them have a $6m cap hit over the next 4 years. Erikkson

The point is, he cramps our style on trade targets and FA acquisitions.

If Skinner signs, it sure would be nice to have more than $17 mil to sign 5 guys
- jcragcrumple

U keep bring up the 6mil like i dosagree on his contract

Yes, it sucks

No, i don’t believe we will get rid of him for anything less than the late 1st
And that’s a bad idea imo

Hence why much earlier this season I was, and still am vocal about acquiring RNH.
- Age is perfect
- 2 years left is ok
- $6m for 65 - 75 points is terrific
- versatility to move to 2nd line wing for Mitts at 2c is valuable
- IonSabres

Assuming we can get him for Risto,
Ok

But as much as ppl bash Risto,
we would need to replace him

You're assuming again
- jcragcrumple

What do u think Duchene will get in free agency?

U keep bring up the 6mil like i dosagree on his contract

Yes, it sucks

No, i don’t believe we will get rid of him for anything less than the late 1st
And that’s a bad idea imo
- jdfitz77

There are plenty of other scenarios

What do u think Duchene will get in free agency?
- jdfitz77

$9.5M/per and 7 years.

What do u think Duchene will get in free agency?
- jdfitz77

Idk, but I do know if we still have Okposo and Bogo, Skinner will be our only splash move apart from the inevitable Risto trade. Salary constraints dictate that unless money is moved out in the off season, we can re-sign our own and basically stand pat. If we're interested in FA or trades, cash has to leave

I kinda agree:

It changes another face of losing from the lockerroom

4. He cant fight
5. Injury prone/ dependability issues

Yes , if he is a 4th liner , he should have the ability to protect himself . Even better if he could: protect the other soft guys.
- Boss34

I like it when we agree

Banned

Reported

Fair
Idk that we are bringing in enough guys that he’ll be knocked off the PP though?

And PP goals do count
- jdfitz77

They count. But if he were to be taken off the PP, which IMO he will, what does his production look like?

Problem with him is he takes way too many penalties for a role player. And isn’t really good defensively.

He’s gotta he priority #1 to move

Reported
- BeadyEyedDouche

Tarred and feathered

Reported
- BeadyEyedDouche

do that crap on facebook

There are plenty of other scenarios
- jcragcrumple

Well if that happens, I’d applaud the move
But i highly doubt it

$9.5M/per and 7 years.
- Pegullaville

That’s overpaid imo

They count. But if he were to be taken off the PP, which IMO he will, what does his production look like?

Problem with him is he takes way too many penalties for a role player. And isn’t really good defensively.

He’s gotta he priority #1 to move
- sbroads24

But are u ok moving the 1st to do so?
I’m not

But are u ok moving the 1st to do so?
I’m not
- jdfitz77

No but I’d heavily consider it if it helped us get someone

When are we bringing the Royal blues back ? They’ve only been teasing them for the past 3 years.