This was my suggestion last week. If we had gotten Kane and kept Cole we wouldn’t need him yet here we are. In order to afford Zucc we would basically need to move Maatta and Hornqvist at the draft or at the very least ahead of 7/1. He’s also going to get a big pay day. Don’t be surprised if it’s above 6 for 4-5 years
- WSCTeton17

I'm not as high on Kane as everyone else. Cole? Johnson and Gudbranson have been attempts to replace what he brought. While hindsight is 20/20, the Brassard trade was a good trade at the time. Would I have preferred they moved someone else over Cole? Yes, but Sullivan was already doing his best to play him out of the lineup.

I'm not as high on Kane as everyone else. Cole? Johnson and Gudbranson have been attempts to replace what he brought. While hindsight is 20/20, the Brassard trade was a good trade at the time. Would I have preferred they moved someone else over Cole? Yes, but Sullivan was already doing his best to play him out of the lineup.
- Rinosaur

Yeah man for sure. I’m not high on 30 goal wingers who have size, skill AND speed who score mostly at even strength especially when they’re selling at a discount. Just kinda meh. Pitt doesn’t need guys like that

I agree. I'm not too familiar with Zuccarello but Hornquist was pretty much a no show all season. With Guentzal playing the net front presence on the pp, I dont see a need for a 5.3 mil third line.

I like Zucc. He always kills us when he played for the Rangers, but then again, we got Brassard and look how that went. The problem with signing a guy like him in FA is that he will have a lot of suitors. Likely the team that signs him will pay too much for too long and the Pens really cannot afford another bad contract.

To me, the two main goals of the offseason are to solidify the wings with more speed and build a puck moving defense. A nice secondary goal would be to find Sid a permanant RWer. I cant imagine him and jake doing well if Sully keeps switching their 3rd linemate.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/43555/oula-palve

Finnish playmaker. Between him and Blueger I would say it’s official that Cullen won’t be back, which is obviously no surprise to us.

We also have almost no cap space to re-sign Petts, ZAR, and Blueger. Someone has to go. Maatta is the obvious choice as he still has perceived value and was scratched
- WSCTeton17

Thanks!

If it means Cullen is done, I'm all for it. I'm with Rino.... ZAR can go too. Maatta is def gone.

👍👍 quote not working, thumbs up to letting ZAR walk

Thanks!

If it means Cullen is done, I'm all for it. I'm with Rino.... ZAR can go too. Maatta is def gone.
- madmike71

Yeah. It was worth keeping him this season to see if there was anything more imo. He had some good shifts in him but it just wasn’t often enough to earn a spot. Maybe elsewhere

Yeah man for sure. I’m not high on 30 goal wingers who have size, skill AND speed who score mostly at even strength especially when they’re selling at a discount. Just kinda meh. Pitt doesn’t need guys like that
- WSCTeton17

You're very simple, aren't you?

Yeah. It was worth keeping him this season to see if there was anything more imo. He had some good shifts in him but it just wasn’t often enough to earn a spot. Maybe elsewhere
- WSCTeton17

I pretty much thought Cullen was done after the last cup. I was glad he chose to go to Minny. I was kind of stunned Rutherford chose to bring him back after he struggled with the Wild.

You're very simple, aren't you?
- Rinosaur

It’s called sarcasm because I don’t get how your mind works and I’ve stopped caring. Anyone who “isn’t high” on a 30 goal guy in his prime who has multiple dimensions to his game isn’t someone worth furthering conversation with. Someone else called you out on it last blog. Someone says something and back up their opinion with some sound reasoning and you go “Yeah, ok. Lol”

Great insight.

This was a fun blog. Get a sense of humor, people.

This blog has to be a bad joke. He's poop on Ristolainen regularly.
- Rinosaur

This blog is a very obvious joke.

It’s called sarcasm because I don’t get how your mind works and I’ve stopped caring. Anyone who “isn’t high” on a 30 goal guy in his prime who has multiple dimensions to his game isn’t someone worth furthering conversation with. Someone else called you out on it last blog. Someone says something and back up their opinion with some sound reasoning and you go “Yeah, ok. Lol”

Great insight.
- WSCTeton17

If you've stopped caring, then stop replying.

This blog is a very obvious joke.
- Victoro311

I didn't notice the 420 thing at first.

This blog is a very obvious joke.
- Victoro311

Vic, I know you like Maatta in some sense or another. What’s the worst return you would be willing to accept without taking back any cap space? For fun, might as well do one for Hornqvist. Others feel free to join in

The way I look at it is like a business. The Coyotes got ripped for the Schmaltz/Strome trade but Chayka took players that were barely being used and replaced them with one that was successful in his short time there. If we’re not getting usefulness out of these two, I’d like to get something that we can/will use (cap space, trade chips, players) &really that’s what also bothers me about losing Cole. We just have heresay of why he left, right? But the common theme is that he had too much personality. Seriously? That’s why we traded from a position of weakness? He had 7 points in 15 games prior to the trade and was averaging around 18 minutes a game (down from 20 in late December). He had good chemistry with Schultz and trading him created this huge hole.. because of some strict ass coach who’s been getting his s#it handed to him ever since

It’s called sarcasm because I don’t get how your mind works and I’ve stopped caring. Anyone who “isn’t high” on a 30 goal guy in his prime who has multiple dimensions to his game isn’t someone worth furthering conversation with. Someone else called you out on it last blog. Someone says something and back up their opinion with some sound reasoning and you go “Yeah, ok. Lol”

Great insight.
- WSCTeton17

Kane was/is exactly the kind of player this team should pursue.

Wish we had kept Cole and traded for Kane last year. Gave Horn's money to Kane and let Horn walk this year -Don't do the Brass deal

Assume we could have still acquired McCann somehow for picks, given that all Brass got was a 3rd and Sheahan's gonna walk (kinda sounds like we could have got Bjugstad and McCann for the 2nd, a 3rd and 2 4ths)

Don't sign JJ, Don't do the Hags for Pearson for Guds thing, Don't trade Sheary and Hunwick

Our playoff Roster last year could been

Guentzel Crosby Kane
Hornqvist Malkin Kessel
Hagelin Sheahan Rust
Sheary Rowney Kuhn

Letang Dumo
Schultz Cole
Maatta Oleksiak

Murray

This years Playoff Roster would have been

McCann Crosby Guentzel
Hagelin Malkin Kane
Rust Bjugstad Kessel
Simon Cullen Sheary

Letang Dumo
Schultz Cole
Maatta Petterson

Murray
DeSmith

We would of course, still have Gustavsson, Whoever we took with our 2018 1st (Brass Non-trade) and the cap space from not having JJ and Guds on the roster and Hags contract expiring going forward

All GMJR had to do was practically nothing, just sit back and look for a value trade like McCann and Bjugstad from a team looking to dump cap and term

Magic 8 ball says also don't sign Hunwick, Don't do the Reeves trade, etc, etc, etc, but I was working forward from just last years Trade deadline when Cole was moved out and Brass was moved in

Vic, I know you like Maatta in some sense or another. What’s the worst return you would be willing to accept without taking back any cap space? For fun, might as well do one for Hornqvist. Others feel free to join in

The way I look at it is like a business. The Coyotes got ripped for the Schmaltz/Strome trade but Chayka took players that were barely being used and replaced them with one that was successful in his short time there. If we’re not getting usefulness out of these two, I’d like to get something that we can/will use (cap space, trade chips, players) &really that’s what also bothers me about losing Cole. We just have heresay of why he left, right? But the common theme is that he had too much personality. Seriously? That’s why we traded from a position of weakness? He had 7 points in 15 games prior to the trade and was averaging around 18 minutes a game (down from 20 in late December). He had good chemistry with Schultz and trading him created this huge hole.. because of some strict ass coach who’s been getting his s#it handed to him ever since
- WSCTeton17

I don’t see Määttä as a liability. If we had to deal him I’d probably would want to see JJs contract on the way out.

Kane was/is exactly the kind of player this team should pursue.
- madmike71

Many disagree but I would settle for JT Miller. He very likely will be available, but he likely wont be cheap. He can play wing and center and he’s good at both. He’s great insurance in case Sid or Geno should go down for a short period. He’s young. He’s exactly the kind of player I think we can get

Chicago fans would love to tell you that Tampa Bay, Winnipeg and Toronto are all in hard spots with the cap and “they’ll suffer” lol. Ok well TB put themselves in this spot with the steal of the Miller/McD trade, Winnipeg will be fine once they walk away from Myers, and Toronto put themselves in that position by signing JT. If they didn’t sign JT they would be fine. They’ve now put themselves in a position to deal valuable players for futures which will keep their window open longer. Certainly a good spot to be in

Wish we had kept Cole and traded for Kane last year. Gave Horn's money to Kane and let Horn walk this year -Don't do the Brass deal

Assume we could have still acquired McCann somehow for picks, given that all Brass got was a 3rd and Sheahan's gonna walk (kinda sounds like we could have got Bjugstad and McCann for the 2nd, a 3rd and 2 4ths)

Don't sign JJ, Don't do the Hags for Pearson for Guds thing, Don't trade Sheary and Hunwick

Our playoff Roster last year could been

Guentzel Crosby Kane
Hornqvist Malkin Kessel
Hagelin Sheahan Rust
Sheary Rowney Kuhn

Letang Dumo
Schultz Cole
Maatta Oleksiak

Murray

This years Playoff Roster would have been

McCann Crosby Guentzel
Hagelin Malkin Kane
Rust Bjugstad Kessel
Simon Cullen Sheary

Letang Dumo
Schultz Cole
Maatta Petterson

Murray
DeSmith

We would of course, still have Gustavsson, Whoever we took with our 2018 1st (Brass Non-trade) and the cap space from not having JJ and Guds on the roster and Hags contract expiring going forward

All GMJR had to do was practically nothing, just sit back and look for a value trade like McCann and Bjugstad from a team looking to dump cap and term

Magic 8 ball says also don't sign Hunwick, Don't do the Reeves trade, etc, etc, etc, but I was working forward from just last years Trade deadline when Cole was moved out and Brass was moved in
- RoloTahmasee

Sound reasoning for sure. The way I’ve ALWAYS justified my position on the Brass trade is that some of us were ok settling for Sheahan as our 3C after he started putting up offense BUT mostly the fact that just about all of us weren’t happy with our D at the time and we traded Cole and never replaced him

Wish we had kept Cole and traded for Kane last year. Gave Horn's money to Kane and let Horn walk this year -Don't do the Brass deal

Assume we could have still acquired McCann somehow for picks, given that all Brass got was a 3rd and Sheahan's gonna walk (kinda sounds like we could have got Bjugstad and McCann for the 2nd, a 3rd and 2 4ths)

Don't sign JJ, Don't do the Hags for Pearson for Guds thing, Don't trade Sheary and Hunwick

Our playoff Roster last year could been

Guentzel Crosby Kane
Hornqvist Malkin Kessel
Hagelin Sheahan Rust
Sheary Rowney Kuhn

Letang Dumo
Schultz Cole
Maatta Oleksiak

Murray

This years Playoff Roster would have been

McCann Crosby Guentzel
Hagelin Malkin Kane
Rust Bjugstad Kessel
Simon Cullen Sheary

Letang Dumo
Schultz Cole
Maatta Petterson

Murray
DeSmith

We would of course, still have Gustavsson, Whoever we took with our 2018 1st (Brass Non-trade) and the cap space from not having JJ and Guds on the roster and Hags contract expiring going forward

All GMJR had to do was practically nothing, just sit back and look for a value trade like McCann and Bjugstad from a team looking to dump cap and term

Magic 8 ball says also don't sign Hunwick, Don't do the Reeves trade, etc, etc, etc, but I was working forward from just last years Trade deadline when Cole was moved out and Brass was moved in
- RoloTahmasee

You may want to know the E Kane is a LW, not right.

Also, you can't afford that lineup, not even close.

You may want to know the E Kane is a LW, not right.

Also, you can't afford that lineup, not even close.
- Guile

I don't really pay attention to who plays what side, make the lines however you want, but keep in mind LAST years roster wouldn't require the full cap hit of Kane because he would have been a deadline pickup

THIS years would easily fit, Horns money went to Kane, JJ wasn't signed (Sheary $$) and Bjudstad and McCann are deadline pickups, so also not full salary - heck get Florida to retain on Bjugs if the moneys tight

I don’t see Määttä as a liability. If we had to deal him I’d probably would want to see JJs contract on the way out.
- Barnaby36

Jump ahead to the 4 minute mark on this one. The safe play is to dump it down the boards. If you recall, this one stung... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPZI-SAz5I

You may want to know the E Kane is a LW, not right.

Also, you can't afford that lineup, not even close.
- Guile

For You

McCann 1.25 Crosby 8.7 Guentzel 0.75
Hagelin 4.0 Malkin 9.5 Kane 7.0
Rust 3.5 Bjugstad 4.1 Kessel 6.8
Simon 0.75 Cullen 0.65 Sheary 3.0

Letang 7.25 Dumo 4.1
Schultz 5.5 Cole 4.0
Maatta 4.1 Petterson 0.8

Murray 3.75
DeSmith 0.675

Even at Full price this only comes to 80.5 Million - Factor out at least 3 Million of Bjugs cap hit alone and you're at 77.5 Million

For You

McCann 1.25 Crosby 8.7 Guentzel 0.75
Hagelin 4.0 Malkin 9.5 Kane 7.0
Rust 3.5 Bjugstad 4.1 Kessel 6.8
Simon 0.75 Cullen 0.65 Sheary 3.0

Letang 7.25 Dumo 4.1
Schultz 5.5 Cole 4.0
Maatta 4.1 Petterson 0.8

Murray 3.75
DeSmith 0.675

Even at Full price this only comes to 80.5 Million - Factor out at least 3 Million of Bjugs cap hit alone and you're at 77.5 Million
- RoloTahmasee

While taking out Bjugs for part of the season you would have to include Sheahan for the rest of it. But it’s entirely possible that it could’ve worked out