Peter Tessier: Closed meeting, no practice, are Jets looking in the mirror? Some thoughts on the closed players meeting, the break from practice and if they really understand where things are going wrong?

If the Jets don't play like they did against Nashville they could very well end up in third place.

Last couple of games will tell the tale - we're easy first round fodder if we continue to play the way we did Tuesday.

Dallas has owned us lately, if we play them we're in tough.

I'm pessimistic.

keep losin' boys

Last season we won playing desperation hockey, and Hellebuyck looked like George Vezina.
I'm hoping we can get back to that - now!

Hopefully Tanev is okay to lead the charge - and they re-unite the TLC line although the Perrault-Copp-Roslovic line has been our best line lately, so do we break them up? I'm thinking we we'll see Buff on #1 power-play tonight, if we get any chances that is.

Don't care who we play, just want home-ice advantage.
Not sure why, but I'm still optimistic

Not to blame one player, but can't you make the case that the expectant goal rate has gone down because Laine has not met expectations.
I mean the expectant goal rate has gone down by a margin of 0.2 per 60, over the course of 80 games that is 16 goals, shouldn't Laine have 46 goals now instead of 30

Not to blame one player, but can't you make the case that the expectant goal rate has gone down because Laine has not met expectations.
I mean the expectant goal rate has gone down by a margin of 0.2 per 60, over the course of 80 games that is 16 goals, shouldn't Laine have 46 goals now instead of 30
- BWJumper

Interesting point to look at this angle, amongst many angles. But the math seems to correlate.

easiest and laziest job in journalism right now is anyone covering the Jets. it has been an exercise in regurgitating the same analytics data we have seen and read for the past 3 months.

"Is it between the ears ?" ... d_mn straight

I can't help myself to think that they've been 'waiting' for the playoffs ... it's so consistent amongst younger people (players) to take things for granted ... 'we're real good - just wait until the playoffs' ... 'we made it to the conference final last year - no worries'

Well - IT'S THE PLAYOFFS ! ... NOW !

You don't start from where you left off - you start all over again

Avs and 'Yotes games will reveal a lot

Not to blame one player, but can't you make the case that the expectant goal rate has gone down because Laine has not met expectations.
I mean the expectant goal rate has gone down by a margin of 0.2 per 60, over the course of 80 games that is 16 goals, shouldn't Laine have 46 goals now instead of 30
- BWJumper

So that's a really good point and I'm sure some folks have looked at variables around certain players.

So Laine's numbers

18-19

CF% 44.99
Cf/60 52.17
SF/60 27.87
GF/60 2.58

17-18

CF% 50.14
CF/60 59.34
SF/60 30.73
GF/60 3.26

These are all on-ice stats so what happens when he is on the ice not individual. So let's look at another player- Scheifele

18-19

CF% 48.43
CF/60 55.75
SF/60 30.66
GF/60 2.66

17-18
CF% 51.14
CF/60 59.88
SF/60 34.31
GF/60 3.13

We could keep doing this and I bet we would see similar drops across the board because as a team they have dropped across the board. Why? Why has that happened as that is what has changed the most and I'm of the belief their is a tactical desire to find the best shot at the expense of shot volume and it's coming back to bite them because teams are figuring them out.

I hope Laine doesn't look in the mirror, he'll break it! Lolz

Just like I pointed out early in the season. Maurice burned out Scheifele and Wheeler and now both are so fatigued, they look invisible. This is all on Maurice. His shelf life has expired.

Just like I pointed out early in the season. Maurice burned out Scheifele and Wheeler and now both are so fatigued, they look invisible. This is all on Maurice. His shelf life has expired.
- TheUltimateJet

Those two probably haven't had a game over 20 minutes in the last 10 games. One could actually argue that their reduced minutes is actually hurting the team.

Those two probably haven't had a game over 20 minutes in the last 10 games. One could actually argue that their reduced minutes is actually hurting the team.
- jetsnation

So the perception we have depth is an illusion then.

So the perception we have depth is an illusion then.
- TheUltimateJet

It was just an observation. As I said earlier, I pin a lot of the hurt on Laine-the-line-killer , loss of Buff ...and especially Morrissey, and #1 PP not producing with Trouba. Solve those three main issues and I think the old Jets from the first half of the season will be back. The PK also misses Buff and Morrissey so it truly shows how important those two are to the team.

The PP, in particular, is uber important. It can be a goal or two a game which is key when so many games are close. Morrissey and Buff on the PK might also help subtract a goal a game. Suddenly we are a winning team again.

It was just an observation. As I said earlier, I pin a lot of the hurt on Laine-the-line-killer , loss of Buff ...and especially Morrissey, and #1 PP not producing with Trouba. Solve those three main issues and I think the old Jets from the first half of the season will be back. The PK also misses Buff and Morrissey so it truly shows how important those two are to the team.

The PP, in particular, is uber important. It can be a goal or two a game which is key when so many games are close. Morrissey and Buff on the PK might also help subtract a goal a game. Suddenly we are a winning team again.
- jetsnation

It’s been this bad all season, and the injuries are simply exposing us as the early season luck wears off more and more.
You can keep picking scapegoats, and hoping JoMo can save us, but the bottom line is we weren’t good with Morrissey. Even if he’s been unreal.

The early standouts for me are Perrault and Hellebuyck. It’s been a while since Matthew has skated like this

Wondering if part of the reason Buff is on number two pp is to limit minutes. He could be less than 100%

So do any of Wpg, Nash, or STL want to play Dallas in the 1st round. Dallas has handled the Blues this season

After torturing us all season with Gord and Cassies Safeway commercials, I am never setting foot in either Sobeys or Safeway ever again.

So do any of Wpg, Nash, or STL want to play Dallas in the 1st round. Dallas has handled the Blues this season
- BluesDroogie

Those are four good teams. Anyone of them could be dangerous. The stars are sleepers in the west with Bishop playing as well as he is

The Jets got what they deserved tonight. They were good but the Avs were better.

Unlike some, I am not worried about the final standings and winning first in the central . I think it suits the personality of Winnipeg and the Jets to be in the underdog roll. Finishing first second or third really doesn’t matter to me, Second or third might even be better than first.

The Jets got what they deserved tonight. They were good but the Avs were better.

Unlike some, I am not worried about the final standings and winning first in the central . I think it suits the personality of Winnipeg and the Jets to be in the underdog roll. Finishing first second or third really doesn’t matter to me, Second or third might even be better than first.
- 2.0

I certainly don't think the Avs outplayed us. The thin air definitely took some wind out of our sails in the third. A post here or there. Total nailbiter which cant really be blamed on anyone. Some might point the finger at Connor for a really dumb penalty but that's it. Jets are very good a three on three but we never got to see it. Cue up St. Louis.

The Jets got what they deserved tonight. They were good but the Avs were better.

Unlike some, I am not worried about the final standings and winning first in the central . I think it suits the personality of Winnipeg and the Jets to be in the underdog roll. Finishing first second or third really doesn’t matter to me, Second or third might even be better than first.
- 2.0

I am with you on this one. Home ice is nice, but my opinion would be to avoid Dallas first round.

I didn’t like Buf’s pass to try and hit Connor in the slot at the end. I think it was Connor and he was covered (was it three Avs?). He doesn’t get a shot or control and now Buf is caught behind everyone and the Avs race down with Connor trying to catch up and Buf is way behind and out of the play completely.

Like 2.0 says, the way Dallas is playing along with Bishop, good luck to whoever plays them. They are going to be tough to beat.

I sure like Helle’s game though. Our goalie is certainly playing the right way at the right time.

We can go round and round pointing fingers, blaming fatigue or injuries but the bottom line is teams have adapted to the way they play us and our coach has not adjusted. He himself continues to make excuses and believe if “we play our game” we will win. This is not true! Teams know how to beat us. The amount of “post” excuses I heard in the post game interviews says it all!!! Colorado hit more posts than us so if we were a post away from winning, I guess they were a few posts away from blowing us out?