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Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Mar 19 @ 2:53 AM ET
Trevor Shackles: Senators Stats Since the Big Trades Individual and team stats since Stone, Duchene, and Dzingel got traded
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Mar 19 @ 3:07 AM ET
Mark Stone now has

32 goals, 70 points this season

At the same age, Daniel Alfredsson was not scoring like Mark Stone is
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:15 AM ET
So, the Sens are hoping to sign Josh Norris for next season.

One more body added to the list of prospects under contract.

How many guys under the age of 22 will start next season for the Sens?

The Sens need to move some young guys up quick. A new wave of prospects is coming (especially from the 2020 draft). Prospects need ice time in a top 6 role.

Nick Paul is playing the best hockey of his career. I wonder if he has finally found himself?

Batherson is a runaway as best rookie in the AHL. Wolanin has proven he deserves a full time NHL job. Brannstrom is the real deal. I believe Formenton will be a Calder candidate next year. Has Logan Brown finally grown into his body and can he put together a string of games without getting hurt?

Perhaps the harder question is not how many rookies start next year. More important, how many spaces need be set aside for veterans that the kids can lean on for direction and support?

Feeling a lot better about the direction of the team than a few months ago.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:33 AM ET
"Rookie defenceman Christian Wolanin, who played 24:29 in the absence of the injured Thomas Chabot (only Toronto’s very poor Norris Trophy candidate Morgan Rielly played more), echoed Paajarvi’s thoughts, talking about the “amazing” work by the forwards, defence and goaltender Anders Nilsson.

He also took plenty of pride in sending much of the loaded Maple Leafs crowd away unhappy.

“It was a fun building, it was fun to send those Leafs fans home with about three minutes left and seeing them all leaving the building,” he said. “It was a fun game, an emotional game.”

Trevor has been a huge booster of Wolanin since early in the season. He appears to have got it right.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
"Rookie defenceman Christian Wolanin, who played 24:29 in the absence of the injured Thomas Chabot (only Toronto’s very poor Norris Trophy candidate Morgan Rielly played more), echoed Paajarvi’s thoughts, talking about the “amazing” work by the forwards, defence and goaltender Anders Nilsson.

He also took plenty of pride in sending much of the loaded Maple Leafs crowd away unhappy.

“It was a fun building, it was fun to send those Leafs fans home with about three minutes left and seeing them all leaving the building,” he said. “It was a fun game, an emotional game.”

Trevor has been a huge booster of Wolanin since early in the season. He appears to have got it right.

- spatso
agree
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Mar 19 @ 9:22 AM ET
"Rookie defenceman Christian Wolanin, who played 24:29 in the absence of the injured Thomas Chabot (only Toronto’s very poor Norris Trophy candidate Morgan Rielly played more), echoed Paajarvi’s thoughts, talking about the “amazing” work by the forwards, defence and goaltender Anders Nilsson.

He also took plenty of pride in sending much of the loaded Maple Leafs crowd away unhappy.

“It was a fun building, it was fun to send those Leafs fans home with about three minutes left and seeing them all leaving the building,” he said. “It was a fun game, an emotional game.”

Trevor has been a huge booster of Wolanin since early in the season. He appears to have got it right.

- spatso


troll
ktownfan
Joined: 12.07.2014

Mar 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
Nick Paul shouldn't be suprising anyone lately. He has all the tools, just needed a little confidence. With Boucher gone he probably feels a little pressure off as Crawford might not just call him up to sit in the press box.
Wolanin has game and should be locked up before Eugene can't afford him. Gibbons and Duclair are worth contracts going forward.
Nilson also worth keeping around. Condon has hit his expiry date and Andy has hit his best before.
TDBSenatoR
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 09.28.2018

Mar 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
Mark Stone now has

32 goals, 70 points this season

At the same age, Daniel Alfredsson was not scoring like Mark Stone is


Alfredsson also played in the dead puck era though.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 2:30 PM ET
"Rookie defenceman Christian Wolanin, who played 24:29 in the absence of the injured Thomas Chabot (only Toronto’s very poor Norris Trophy candidate Morgan Rielly played more), echoed Paajarvi’s thoughts, talking about the “amazing” work by the forwards, defence and goaltender Anders Nilsson.

He also took plenty of pride in sending much of the loaded Maple Leafs crowd away unhappy.

“It was a fun building, it was fun to send those Leafs fans home with about three minutes left and seeing them all leaving the building,” he said. “It was a fun game, an emotional game.”

Trevor has been a huge booster of Wolanin since early in the season. He appears to have got it right.

- spatso



why are you the way that you are?
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
why are you the way that you are?
- senstroll

I'd rather be a poor norris candidate than not a candidate at all
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:41 PM ET
Nick Paul shouldn't be suprising anyone lately. He has all the tools, just needed a little confidence. With Boucher gone he probably feels a little pressure off as Crawford might not just call him up to sit in the press box.
Wolanin has game and should be locked up before Eugene can't afford him. Gibbons and Duclair are worth contracts going forward.
Nilson also worth keeping around. Condon has hit his expiry date and Andy has hit his best before.

- ktownfan

Does Paul have the foot speed to excel at the next level??
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 19 @ 5:44 PM ET
So, the Sens are hoping to sign Josh Norris for next season.

One more body added to the list of prospects under contract.

How many guys under the age of 22 will start next season for the Sens?

The Sens need to move some young guys up quick. A new wave of prospects is coming (especially from the 2020 draft). Prospects need ice time in a top 6 role.

Nick Paul is playing the best hockey of his career. I wonder if he has finally found himself?

Batherson is a runaway as best rookie in the AHL. Wolanin has proven he deserves a full time NHL job. Brannstrom is the real deal. I believe Formenton will be a Calder candidate next year. Has Logan Brown finally grown into his body and can he put together a string of games without getting hurt?

Perhaps the harder question is not how many rookies start next year. More important, how many spaces need be set aside for veterans that the kids can lean on for direction and support?

Feeling a lot better about the direction of the team than a few months ago.

- spatso


Only took being bigger, stronger, older and more experienced than his ahl opponents. I could see him having all the same advantages in the nhl.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Mar 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
Only took being bigger, stronger, older and more experienced than his ahl opponents. I could see him having all the same advantages in the nhl.
- Tumbleweed


And playing with Batherson and Brown.

Don't get me wrong I'm liking his play, and maybe he'll be a late bloomer, but I've learnt to temper by expectations.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
So, the Sens are hoping to sign Josh Norris for next season.

One more body added to the list of prospects under contract.

How many guys under the age of 22 will start next season for the Sens?

The Sens need to move some young guys up quick. A new wave of prospects is coming (especially from the 2020 draft). Prospects need ice time in a top 6 role.

Nick Paul is playing the best hockey of his career. I wonder if he has finally found himself?

Batherson is a runaway as best rookie in the AHL. Wolanin has proven he deserves a full time NHL job. Brannstrom is the real deal. I believe Formenton will be a Calder candidate next year. Has Logan Brown finally grown into his body and can he put together a string of games without getting hurt?

Perhaps the harder question is not how many rookies start next year. More important, how many spaces need be set aside for veterans that the kids can lean on for direction and support?

Feeling a lot better about the direction of the team than a few months ago.

- spatso


Takes a while to unpack all the derp. Usually players with skill/talent win that award. But i can see why you would think a future 4th penalty killer could be a candidate.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 19 @ 6:11 PM ET
Takes a while to unpack all the derp. Usually players with skill/talent win that award. But i can see why you would think a future 4th penalty killer could be a candidate.
- Tumbleweed


i love the irony of you posting the first bolded portion, followed immediately by the 2nd...........keep your retarded "derp" opinions in the forums where they belong, with idiots like Prock and Dopps
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 19 @ 6:13 PM ET
And playing with Batherson and Brown.

Don't get me wrong I'm liking his play, and maybe he'll be a late bloomer, but I've learnt to temper by expectations.

- david22


i don't see him replicating his offensive numbers in the NHL, but i think he could be a good replacement for Zach Smith or Pageau....big body, who probably has a little bit more offensive potential. a solid 3rd line center.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 20 @ 5:47 AM ET
What is the knock on Anthony Duclair? I have heard the Tortorella comment in regard to his being "uncoachable." So far he looks okay. 3 goals in 11 games is fine.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 20 @ 6:20 AM ET
Need to get up to speed for watching playoffs.

Riddle me this. Are the recent Leaf loses merely a late season slow spell. Or, is this the expected choke just coming a little early?

The Leaf post season is hugely important for Sens fans. Leafs will go into next season with more than $40m in CAP committed to just 4 players. Even if the Leafs don't collapse there will be some very good players available as they try to figure out how to give themselves some CAP flexibility. Same goes for multiple other CAP challenged teams (Tampa, San Jose, Winnipeg....even Vegas).

The Sens have purposely put themselves in the position of needing to get up to the CAP floor. There are multiple teams like the Leafs that will need to shed at least one substantial veteran contract in order to sign their own RFAs. One of my interests in watching the playoffs will include wondering which veteran players might become available to the Sens?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Mar 20 @ 7:57 AM ET
What is the knock on Anthony Duclair? I have heard the Tortorella comment in regard to his being "uncoachable." So far he looks okay. 3 goals in 11 games is fine.
- spatso


I've liked his play so far, but 5 teams in such little time makes you wonder.

Has there been a player before who was in a similar situation who put it together on team 5?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 20 @ 8:04 AM ET
I've liked his play so far, but 5 teams in such little time makes you wonder.

Has there been a player before who was in a similar situation who put it together on team 5?

- david22


You are right. Long history of under performing top picks that got moved because a different GM thought they could find the missing spark they thought they saw in junior. Has there ever been a lottery level pick that failed to live up to expectations but was able to recover his elite status by going to a new team?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
Go Felix...TSN2
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Mar 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
Bobby Ryan. The guy just keeps positive and plays his game. Seems like a good guy.. he is having his best point year in about 4 years. Hard to believe this is his 6th Sens season
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Mar 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
I've liked his play so far, but 5 teams in such little time makes you wonder. Has there been a player before who was in a similar situation who put it together on team 5?
- david22

From what I can see, the issue with Duclair has been more about his attitude and general willingness to play beyond the offensive zone. He's already got a 20G NHL season under his belt, so it's not surprising that he could produce when given a larger role, limited roster competition, and minimal expectations. Whether or not you would want Duclair playing a top-6 role on a team with playoff expectations is another matter entirely.

Fortunately for Ottawa, that's more of a 2021/22 kind of problem... or at least until younger forwards like Batherson, Chlapik, Formenton, Norris, and Verroneau start making a case for NHL scoring line minutes.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Mar 20 @ 8:06 PM ET
What is the knock on Anthony Duclair? I have heard the Tortorella comment in regard to his being "uncoachable." So far he looks okay. 3 goals in 11 games is fine.
- spatso

Brian Gibbons has been a SOLID pick up.

Duclair is likely an enigmatic player who might never reach his full potential. He has the speed, hands, shot, hockey IQ (offensively especially) but obviously if a guy is traded that much, there's a reason. That said, for a short sample size, it might be the perfect fit
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
From what I can see, the issue with Duclair has been more about his attitude and general willingness to play beyond the offensive zone. He's already got a 20G NHL season under his belt, so it's not surprising that he could produce when given a larger role, limited roster competition, and minimal expectations. Whether or not you would want Duclair playing a top-6 role on a team with playoff expectations is another matter entirely.

Fortunately for Ottawa, that's more of a 2021/22 kind of problem... or at least until younger forwards like Batherson, Chlapik, Formenton, Norris, and Verroneau start making a case for NHL scoring line minutes.

- khawk


I'd be happy to sign him to a 2 year deal. Go from there in regards to how the the team develops, / see how he works and if he can finally pull it together regarding his constant moving.

I agree that as it stands right now you likely wouldn't want him as a top 6 player on a contdner.
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