strongly disagree.
i don't like nylander much (newsflash).
but not because he isn't a decent hockey player, but he is obsolete on this leafs team - at least in the cap area, leafs should better be spending that money on another player + need wingers with different skillsets.

but nylander would get a great/good return in any trade, independent of his subpar play and bad attitude.
- plantheparade

I thought it was Marleau we are talking about and your Bill Ny the paid guy.


Nylander could fetch the Leafs something decent. What I do not know.

McBackup
- plantheparade

Still on that, eh?

Sparks deserved a chance, we drafted and developed him. Is also 10 years younger than McElhinney and was the AHL goalie of the year last year.

Even though it didn't work out, Sparks was the proper one to keep.
- TrashPanda

Yes, absolutely the case..

Even though it didn't work out, Sparks was the proper one to keep.
- TrashPanda

keep lying to yourself.
it was a bad decision to let mcbackup go.
if Dubas was so high on Sparks, he should have let Holl or Marincin go and keep 3 goalies for first months.

Still on that, eh?

Sparks deserved a chance, we drafted and developed him. Is also 10 years younger than McElhinney and was the AHL goalie of the year last year.
- PatC80

he also sucks

McBackup
- plantheparade

Who cares about the backup, won't see 1 game in the PO's.

Keep the younger guy who just won the Calder Cup or keep the journeyman who had a career year playing for a good team....it was a no brainer.

keep lying to yourself.
it was a bad decision to let mcbackup go.
if Dubas was so high on Sparks, he should have let Holl or Marincin go and keep 3 goalies for first months.
- plantheparade

Wait, what? A decision was made and they went with it, which was the proper decision at that time.

Saying it was a bad decision is 20/20 hindsight.

Who cares about the backup, won't see 1 game in the PO's.

Keep the younger guy who just won the Calder Cup or keep the journeyman who had a career year playing for a good team....it was a no brainer.
- Garnie

i'm saying keep both of them - leafs had enough 'depth' (Borgman etc.) on D to let Marincin or Holl .

McElhinney wasn't only great for Leafs last year, he was really good year before as well.

Wait, what? A decision was made and they went with it, which was the proper decision at that time.

Saying it was a bad decision is 20/20 hindsight.
- TrashPanda

except there was quite a few people that said it was a bad decision at the time already. it's not 'hindsight'.

i'm saying keep both of them - leafs had enough 'depth' (Borgman etc.) on D to let Marincin or Holl .

McElhinney wasn't only great for Leafs last year, he was really good year before as well.
- plantheparade

He was also old, which was a glaring issue. Do you play the old dude or the AHL goalie of the year?

Even though it didn't work out, Sparks was the proper one to keep.
- TrashPanda

True

except there was quite a few people that said it was a bad decision at the time already. it's not 'hindsight'.
- plantheparade

How many of those people were in the Leafs boardroom?

Some people just don't like change. I was for giving Sparks the chance, he earned it.

McBackup 2 years around the same age as Sparks

Sv%.899 GAA 3.59

Sv% .885 GAA 3.32

McBackup
- plantheparade

the only reason why his number are nice because he's been a #1 role for the Canes. Doubt his numbers would be the same as the Leafs backup.

Even at times I wondered why they kept Sparks but that's why I'm a fan and not a GM.
Sparks is younger and deserve a shot in the NHL.

Even though it didn't work out, Sparks was the proper one to keep.
- TrashPanda

we havent seen it fully play out yet, so I cant say it didnt work out

15 games into a backup career is not nearly enough to say anything.

And yes I know there are many goalie experts on here that will tell me they know...because reasons.. but I dont beleive them when they say they know...because in the history of the NHL there are hundreds of examples of people not knowing

ill wait to be told how someone here knows

i'm saying keep both of them - leafs had enough 'depth' (Borgman etc.) on D to let Marincin or Holl .

McElhinney wasn't only great for Leafs last year, he was really good year before as well.
- plantheparade

Meh, only 1 can play. No need to for McBackup he'll be retired before you're old enough to drive.

- AdamFrench

Seems weird a water tower would explode like that.

They won't be ready to play top pair next year IMO

But as much as I defend Hainsey because he does some things well, I'd rather see a younger vet with a little more speed brought in.
- Garnie

He's more of the 3rd pairing and pk dman if the Leaf do bring him back.
Not sure who'd they have to play with Rielly

keep lying to yourself.
it was a bad decision to let mcbackup go.
if Dubas was so high on Sparks, he should have let Holl or Marincin go and keep 3 goalies for first months.
- plantheparade

Its wasnt.
The gm prior should have better planned so that dubas wasnt required to waive 2 of them.

He's more of the 3rd pairing and pk dman if the Leaf do bring him back.
Not sure who'd they have to play with Rielly
- zazzle

Rielly Nylander

Then we won't hurt any ones feeling by trading him for a D

keep lying to yourself.
it was a bad decision to let mcbackup go.
if Dubas was so high on Sparks, he should have let Holl or Marincin go and keep 3 goalies for first months.
- plantheparade

Three goalies is never a good idea.

In fact, it's a franking terrible idea.

Seems weird a water tower would explode like that.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's the Leafs...they find a way.

Rielly Nylander

Then we won't hurt any ones feeling by trading him for a D
- Garnie

It's the Leafs...they find a way.
- AdamFrench

its full of Leaf fans tears and that very combustible

Rielly Nylander

Then we won't hurt any ones feeling by trading him for a D
- Garnie

Brilliant!