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Now, now don’t be putting names in my mouth - Makita
Marwood hates everything Canucks. lol |
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Speaking of redrafts, I'm curious where people rank Boqvist, Bouchard, Dobson after +1 season.
I dont think many had any of those guys before Hughes. I liked Bouchard and I'm pretty sure Pres had Boqvist ahead of him but cant remember anyone else.
Hughes: 32 Games 5G 28A -2 NCAA
Boqvist: 52 Games 20G 39A +15 OHL
Bouchard: 7 Games 1 G -5 NHL
43 Games 13 G 36A +30 OHL
Dobson: 44 Games 15G 35A +8 QMJHL - belcherbd
I had Dobson and Bouchard ahead of him.
Also, add Sabres and Colorado to the list of 4 of 5 top 10 picks. That puts 3 teams plus Canucks in similar positions. |
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Hopefully this summer. - Reubenkincade
Good to hear, I’ll be away all Sept, but home most of the other times |
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Speaking of redrafts, I'm curious where people rank Boqvist, Bouchard, Dobson after +1 season.
I dont think many had any of those guys before Hughes. I liked Bouchard and I'm pretty sure Pres had Boqvist ahead of him but cant remember anyone else.
Hughes: 32 Games 5G 28A -2 NCAA
Boqvist: 52 Games 20G 39A +15 OHL
Bouchard: 7 Games 1 G -5 NHL
43 Games 13 G 36A +30 OHL
Dobson: 44 Games 15G 35A +8 QMJHL - belcherbd
Hughes had at 3ov , top flight offensive defender with speed to burn
Boqvist. Had at 5ov, boom or bust, huge shot, wanted him but glad Hughes fell.
Dobson. Had at 10ov, wil be a solid number 3/4
Bouchard, I think, is a Cam Barker bust. |
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Good to hear, I’ll be away all Sept, but home most of the other times - Makita
Sounds good. I expect too be pretty busy up here for next few years, so gotta get away when I can. |
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Speaking of redrafts, I'm curious where people rank Boqvist, Bouchard, Dobson after +1 season.
I dont think many had any of those guys before Hughes. I liked Bouchard and I'm pretty sure Pres had Boqvist ahead of him but cant remember anyone else.
Hughes: 32 Games 5G 28A -2 NCAA
Boqvist: 52 Games 20G 39A +15 OHL
Bouchard: 7 Games 1 G -5 NHL
43 Games 13 G 36A +30 OHL
Dobson: 44 Games 15G 35A +8 QMJHL - belcherbd
I think they all need to be evaluated on the same playing field, too many different variables between junior and NCAA.
Another year after they all had a chance in the NHL would be a better indication for redraft. |
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I had Dobson and Bouchard ahead of him.
Also, add Sabres and Colorado to the list of 4 of 5 top 10 picks. That puts 3 teams plus Canucks in similar positions. - Reubenkincade
You had Dobson and Bouchard ahead of Hughes or Boqvist?
Buf got Eichel, Risto and Reinhardt.
Avs got MacKinnon, Rantanen, Jost
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I think they all need to be evaluated on the same playing field, too many different variables between junior and NCAA.
Another year after they all had a chance in the NHL would be a better indication for redraft. - Makita
For sure, but it there were a lot of stong opinions last year and if anything I think its still pretty murky but looks like all still are on track to be difference makers. |
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Hughes had at 3ov , top flight offensive defender with speed to burn
Boqvist. Had at 5ov, boom or bust, huge shot, wanted him but glad Hughes fell.
Dobson. Had at 10ov, wil be a solid number 3/4
Bouchard, I think, is a Cam Barker bust. - New world order
Fair enough. You still feel that way?
I think im higher on Boqvist but otherwise the same, I still like Bouchard and have concerns about Hughes size and lack of shot. Dobson still seems vanilla to me. |
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Speaking of redrafts, I'm curious where people rank Boqvist, Bouchard, Dobson after +1 season.
I dont think many had any of those guys before Hughes. I liked Bouchard and I'm pretty sure Pres had Boqvist ahead of him but cant remember anyone else.
Hughes: 32 Games 5G 28A -2 NCAA
Boqvist: 52 Games 20G 39A +15 OHL
Bouchard: 7 Games 1 G -5 NHL
43 Games 13 G 36A +30 OHL
Dobson: 44 Games 15G 35A +8 QMJHL - belcherbd
1 + 2) = Hughes/Dobson: basically even, wanted 1 of them unless Zadina fell)
3+4) Boqvist/Bouchard: I was down on both, I don’t believe I had either in my overall top 10 |
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You had Dobson and Bouchard ahead of Hughes or Boqvist?
Buf got Eichel, Risto and Reinhardt.
Avs got MacKinnon, Rantanen, Jost - belcherbd
Buff also got Dahlin Mittlestadt and Nylander as well
Colorado got Landeskog and Makar.
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Uhmm.... I don't think Hughes would go 2 in a redraft maybe 3, tchunk is pretty dynamite and I'd rather him then Hughes. Elias might go 1 but nico is one hell of a player. - New world order
Think you guys are missing the point. We got lucky. The players we picked would go higher in a redraft. That is luck |
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I see the G-A-S interest level on Lockwood is at 0 |
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You had Dobson and Bouchard ahead of Hughes or Boqvist?
Buf got Eichel, Risto and Reinhardt.
Avs got MacKinnon, Rantanen, Jost - belcherbd
Both those teams include 1 or 2ov picks... not fair to compare the Canucks... |
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Fair enough. You still feel that way?
I think im higher on Boqvist but otherwise the same, I still like Bouchard and have concerns about Hughes size and lack of shot. Dobson still seems vanilla to me. - belcherbd
Dobson looks like a hamhuis now. He'll be solid but isn't great at anything.
I still have concerns about Bouchard being able to skate.
Still like Hughes and boqvist best |
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1 + 2) = Hughes/Dobson: basically even, wanted 1 of them unless Zadina fell)
3+4) Boqvist/Bouchard: I was down on both, I don’t believe I had either in my overall top 10 - Nucker101
Do you still feel that way? |
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Buff also got Dahlin Mittlestadt and Nylander as well
Colorado got Landeskog and Makar. - Reubenkincade
Okay, but my ask was for other teams who had picked top 10, at least 4 out of 5 years and not gotten at least 2 good players.
OEL and Turris (debatable how well he compares to Boeser) is the best example so far. |
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Hopefully this summer. - Reubenkincade
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Both those teams include 1 or 2ov picks... not fair to compare the Canucks... - New world order
Hard to find comparables with a more narrow scope, but you're welcome to find a more fair comparison. |
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Okay, but my ask was for other teams who had picked top 10, at least 4 out of 5 years and not gotten at least 2 good players.
OEL and Turris (debatable how well he compares to Boeser) is the best example so far. - belcherbd
Totally forgot about the, at least 2 good players part, lol |
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Dobson looks like a hamhuis now. He'll be solid but isn't great at anything.
I still have concerns about Bouchard being able to skate.
Still like Hughes and boqvist best - New world order
Funny, we got that exact same position from Pres4U...hmmm something suspicious here. |
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I see the G-A-S interest level on Lockwood is at 0 - VANTEL
Personally, I am more interested in Canucks signing #6 & 8 on Pronmans chl/euro and NCAA free-agent list
Kaski and Brazzeau.
One is a right shot defenseman from Finland and another is a high scoring winger from the CHL. |
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Hard to find comparables with a more narrow scope, but you're welcome to find a more fair comparison. - belcherbd
Find a team with 4 out of 5 picks between 5 and 10 who have more then 2 that have shown to be all star caliber.
There are no comparable teams! The Canucks are that great! |
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Funny, we got that exact same position from Pres4U...hmmm something suspicious here. - Reubenkincade
Still hate boqvist like he stole your milk money? |
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Do you still feel that way? - New world order
I haven’t really watched the other 3 play this year so I guess so |
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