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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 3:04 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Does Casey Nelson deserve to get benched?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
stripes- what's your thoughts on the eichel hit/ suspension?

Thank you in advance

- Boss34


The league is widely inconsistent in their suspensions we know this.

However Eichel has tip toed that line a few times.

I agree with what Eichel said after the suspension came out.

However IF the NHL really wants to limit though head hits and after McDavid got a similar suspension I figured he was going to get 2 games.

I am good with the 2 games.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
If only there will officials of some sort on the ice...to police these kinds of situations...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
If only there will officials of some sort on the ice...to police these kinds of situations...
- seedy



No offense but these type of comments and others like "get the game under control" are so off base it's comical.

Officials are not there to stop penalties from happening. They are only there to put their arms in the air to call the penalty (which in the Zadarov hit he was getting one)

Not sure what you wanted a ref to do here
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 12 @ 3:15 PM ET
I don't blame Casey Nelson, but the next time Zad's was out there with anyone else that could handle themselves it should have been addressed.

that is your Captain and best all around player on the team, other teams simply CAN NOT run him without having it addressed...

Soft, Soft, Soft... Just like Phil....
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
Being reprimanded for not standing up for your teammates is kinda interesting. I'd be willing to bet Dahlin wouldn't get benched though.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 12 @ 3:18 PM ET
Being reprimanded for not standing up for your teammates is kinda interesting. I'd be willing to bet Dahlin wouldn't get benched though.
- TheSabresTaco[/q

it's not really being reprimanded within the team, its more the lack of brotherhood on the team. If these guys wee really tight, that hit would have been addressed by someone.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 3:20 PM ET
Hitting a player after a whistle AND pulling his helmet off easily could have warranted at least 2 infractions. Hell, i've seen players kicked out of games for less. Dont get so upset because I'm talking about "your people." Refs are wildly inconsistant and we all know they are there to control the flow of the game, not enforce the rules
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
Hitting a player after a whistle AND pulling his helmet off easily could have warranted at least 2 infractions. Hell, i've seen players kicked out of games for less. Dont get so upset because I'm talking about "your people." Refs are wildly inconsistant and we all know they are there to control the flow of the game, not enforce the rules
- seedy


No, no you haven't

Also his helmet coming off was a result of the hit and not him "pulling his helmet off"

Take off your homer glasses here

That was the first penalty of the game

There was nothing close to resembling a hit like that was coming, there was no flow that needed to be controlled

Unreal
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 12 @ 3:35 PM ET
I don't care about retribution, or perception, or any of the ego stuff. The response from the team was fine. But Casey Nelson isn't that good, so sure, scratch him.

Meanwhile, Housley is working on his lines:



LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Mar 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
No, no you haven't

Also his helmet coming off was a result of the hit and not him "pulling his helmet off"

Take off your homer glasses here

That was the first penalty of the game

There was nothing close to resembling a hit like that was coming, there was no flow that needed to be controlled

Unreal

- Stripes77

I dunno. Plastering a guy's head to the boards after the whistle deserves more than 2 minutes. Zads did swipe the helmet off after contact but what really gets me aside from the wild inconsistency of suspensions is the "head was the point of impact" leading to suspensions.
Even though Zads' first contact was not Jack's head, it was still a dirty hit and Jacks head hit the glass.

On Jack's suspension, he was skating to the puck and collided with a guy literally skating headfirst into him. Jack did not lead with elbow or even shoulder, did not leave his feet...didnt even veer towards the guy. But the head was the contact point so he sits for 2.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
Being reprimanded for not standing up for your teammates is kinda interesting. I'd be willing to bet Dahlin wouldn't get benched though.
- TheSabresTaco

I’d be willing to bet Dahlin would do something

He has a physical side to him and doesn’t shy away from it
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
I dunno. Plastering a guy's head to the boards after the whistle deserves more than 2 minutes. Zads did swipe the helmet off after contact but what really gets me aside from the wild inconsistency of suspensions is the "head was the point of impact" leading to suspensions.
Even though Zads' first contact was not Jack's head, it was still a dirty hit and Jacks head hit the glass.

On Jack's suspension, he was skating to the puck and collided with a guy literally skating headfirst into him. Jack did not lead with elbow or even shoulder, did not leave his feet...didnt even veer towards the guy. But the head was the contact point so he sits for 2.

- LandlordTom



Principle point of contact is huge here

Jack got hit in the chest and fell which lead to his helmet coming off

In college the rule would is (indirect contact to the head roughing)

The NHL doesn't have that specific rule but it falls under roughing.

If the whistle didn't go that's probably not even a penalty on Zadorov

On the Eichel suspension the principle point of contact was the head.

Eichel's hit was very similar to McDavid's suspension
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
The league is widely inconsistent in their suspensions we know this.

However Eichel has tip toed that line a few times.

I agree with what Eichel said after the suspension came out.

However IF the NHL really wants to limit though head hits and after McDavid got a similar suspension I figured he was going to get 2 games.

I am good with the 2 games.

- Stripes77

he didn't lower his body and the colorado player had his head down


if his head was upright, there is no grey area
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
If only Ristolainen was on the ice for that Zadorov shift, he would’ve iced the puck at some point and the hit never would’ve happened
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:50 PM ET
he didn't lower his body and the colorado player had his head down


if his head was upright, there is no grey area

- homiedclown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaTljDqCA-E&t=88s

1:22 mark

Eichel makes a last second movement to the right to hit him

If he goes straight for the puck he doesn't get suspended
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
If only Ristolainen was on the ice for that Zadorov shift, he would’ve iced the puck at some point and the hit never would’ve happened
- sbroads24






You mean turned it over and the Sabres get scored on?
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:58 PM ET
If only Ristolainen was on the ice for that Zadorov shift, he would’ve iced the puck at some point and the hit never would’ve happened
- sbroads24


Ok, now this is funny.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:07 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Hocke...tatus/1105557801198215168

Stamkos is not a fan of the current playoff format either
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
The Avalanche are dirty as hell.

Also, not very good.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Does Casey Nelson deserve to get benched?
- Michael Pachla

Nelson on that play is exactly what is wrong with this team from a culture stand point


there should have been 4 sabres on that guy

they all skated away



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:14 PM ET
If only Ristolainen was on the ice for that Zadorov shift, he would’ve iced the puck at some point and the hit never would’ve happened
- sbroads24

oh my
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 4:17 PM ET
They all skated away? Are you saving time and words?

Who’s they?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
baltimore about to sign ingram

jets already submitted final offer to bell

bills added a little sweetener to their offer


stay tuned
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
They all skated away? Are you saving time and words?

Who’s they?

- Der Kaiser

the p@ssy's wearing the blue and gold

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