Trevor Shackles: Matt Duchene Has Played His Last Game as a Senator Duchene will be kept out of the lineup before the trade deadline

The Sens get upwards of $40m from TSN for their regional broadcast rights. My guess is TSN is bringing huge pressure on the Sens not to announce a deal until prime time of trade deadline day.

Still think the Islanders are the team that everyone needs to watch.

Do wonder, if the Sens were willing to take back the Turris contract, how much added value would Nashville put into an offer? But, we know Melnyk is not going to take back any $6m contract.

The Sens get upwards of $40m from TSN for their regional broadcast rights. My guess is TSN is bringing huge pressure on the Sens not to announce a deal until prime time of trade deadline day.

Still think the Islanders are the team that everyone needs to watch.

Do wonder, if the Sens were willing to take back the Turris contract, how much added value would Nashville put into an offer? But, we know Melnyk is not going to take back any $6m contract.
- spatso

You and your conspiracy theories

I think the Sens are fortunate. Most didn't expect Matt to produce at over a ppg . At least the return should be decent and possibly a blessing in disguise long term. Send all three on their merry way and restock the draft cupboard.

@spatso... Could be a deal already worked out? That's why they pulled him...

I think the Sens are fortunate. Most didn't expect Matt to produce at over a ppg . At least the return should be decent and possibly a blessing in disguise long term. Send all three on their merry way and restock the draft cupboard.
- Hardbalz

Duchenne's play definitely upped the return Sens will get and justified the original trade. Losing him was unforseen.

Hoffman and his wife f'd up the program. Then trading Hoffman for nothing basically was a total waste. That's the move that makes no sense. Should have traded Karlsson if you didn't have what it takes to resign him and kept Hoffman....

The Sens get upwards of $40m from TSN for their regional broadcast rights. My guess is TSN is bringing huge pressure on the Sens not to announce a deal until prime time of trade deadline day.

Still think the Islanders are the team that everyone needs to watch.

Do wonder, if the Sens were willing to take back the Turris contract, how much added value would Nashville put into an offer? But, we know Melnyk is not going to take back any $6m contract.
- spatso

Low IQ people will accuse you of, "muh conspiracy theory," when you post something they can't fathom..

ok so Dal Colle, our Aho, and a 1st this year with a 3rd next year that becomes a 2 if he plays for us the following season. What ya think

The Sens get upwards of $40m from TSN for their regional broadcast rights. My guess is TSN is bringing huge pressure on the Sens not to announce a deal until prime time of trade deadline day.

Still think the Islanders are the team that everyone needs to watch.

Do wonder, if the Sens were willing to take back the Turris contract, how much added value would Nashville put into an offer? But, we know Melnyk is not going to take back any $6m contract.
- spatso

If a deal was done, wouldn't the team that traded for Duchene want as many games from him as possible?

ok so Dal Colle, our Aho, and a 1st this year with a 3rd next year that becomes a 2 if he plays for us the following season. What ya think
- Sec111

not enough.......Dal Colle has all the makings of a colossal bust, Aho is probably a 4-5 dman at best, and your 1st is likely to be in the high 20's. Duchene is, BY FAR, the best centre available, and a lot of teams want him.

if one of Dobson or Wahlstrom aren't involved, I can't see any way he goes to NYI

the rumour is that tolvanen is one of the key pieces that Nashville is offering, and he's ranked as one of the top prospects in the entire NHL, not just Nashville's system.

not enough.......Dal Colle has all the makings of a colossal bust, Aho is probably a 4-5 dman at best, and your 1st is likely to be in the high 20's. Duchene is, BY FAR, the best centre available, and a lot of teams want him.

if one of Dobson or Wahlstrom aren't involved, I can't see any way he goes to NYI

the rumour is that tolvanen is one of the key pieces that Nashville is offering, and he's ranked as one of the top prospects in the entire NHL, not just Nashville's system.
- sensarmy_11

The only Aho I want plays for Carolina.

Low IQ people will accuse you of, "muh conspiracy theory," when you post something they can't fathom..
- kaptaan

jesus man, that's pretty much all he ever posts.

when you post 1-2 "conspiracy theories" or ideas that are way out in left field.....fine, you can be given the benefit of the doubt.

when there are literally hundreds of posts from the same person, with nothing but insane theories and completely uninformed ideas......at some point you have to wonder if that person is, at best, insanely naive

jesus man, that's pretty much all he ever posts.

when you post 1-2 "conspiracy theories" or ideas that are way out in left field.....fine, you can be given the benefit of the doubt.

when there are literally hundreds of posts from the same person, with nothing but insane theories and completely uninformed ideas......at some point you have to wonder if that person is, at best, insanely naive
- sensarmy_11

Don't mind Ol' Kap' and his room temperature IQ... it's tinfoil hat time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpqffgak7To

The only Aho I want plays for Carolina.
- forbetterorWORSE

Aho (NYI) looks like he could be a decent offensive defense man, but he's 23, I think the Sens could get a better offer than that elsewhere.

Low IQ people will accuse you of, "muh conspiracy theory," when you post something they can't fathom..
- kaptaan

not enough.......Dal Colle has all the makings of a colossal bust, Aho is probably a 4-5 dman at best, and your 1st is likely to be in the high 20's. Duchene is, BY FAR, the best centre available, and a lot of teams want him.

if one of Dobson or Wahlstrom aren't involved, I can't see any way he goes to NYI

the rumour is that tolvanen is one of the key pieces that Nashville is offering, and he's ranked as one of the top prospects in the entire NHL, not just Nashville's system.
- sensarmy_11

This. I would say the chances are zero without one of those guys coming back.

It's ok; they'll be replacing Dutchy with Hughes this spring, right?

It's ok; they'll be replacing Dutchy with Hughes this spring, right?


- cnatch

nope, they'll be replacing him with Lafreniere next year

The only Aho I want plays for Carolina.
- forbetterorWORSE

The only Aho I know owns the Ottawa Senators!

The only thing I have consistently said is that this is always about the money. Alfredsson, Zibanejad, Turris, Methot, Karlsson, Stone, Duchene, Dzingle, Ceci and others to be named later is about the Sens not taking on any long term deals or paying bonus money to any players.

If you think my observing this is conspiracy theory on my part, I am guilty.

not enough.......Dal Colle has all the makings of a colossal bust, Aho is probably a 4-5 dman at best, and your 1st is likely to be in the high 20's. Duchene is, BY FAR, the best centre available, and a lot of teams want him.

if one of Dobson or Wahlstrom aren't involved, I can't see any way he goes to NYI

the rumour is that tolvanen is one of the key pieces that Nashville is offering, and he's ranked as one of the top prospects in the entire NHL, not just Nashville's system.
- sensarmy_11

- Feds91Stammer

ah, you......sorry, I forgot that our players aren't worth anything because they're rentals.

what I meant to say was that he'll be traded to NYI for a 6th rd pick and the remaining buyout money on Andrew Ladd.

ah, you......sorry, I forgot that our players aren't worth anything because they're rentals.

what I meant to say was that he'll be traded to NYI for a 6th rd pick and the remaining buyout money on Andrew Ladd.
- sensarmy_11

They still aren't worth what you think they are.

They still aren't worth what you think they are.
- Feds91Stammer

I guess we'll find out soon.

like I said, the guys on TSN are reporting that the preds are offering up Tolvanen (however you spell it) along with other assets, and he's a better prospect than either of the 2 I mentioned from the Isles.

you're heavily undervaluing them, based solely on the fact that they're rentals.

teams pay out the ass for rentals all the time, and rentals who are nowhere near the players that Duchene and Stone are.

and like I explained to you yesterday, the Duchene trade is likely to be a sign and trade....which increases his value significantly.

I guess we'll find out soon.

like I said, the guys on TSN are reporting that the preds are offering up Tolvanen (however you spell it) along with other assets, and he's a better prospect than either of the 2 I mentioned from the Isles.

you're heavily undervaluing them, based solely on the fact that they're rentals.

teams pay out the ass for rentals all the time, and rentals who are nowhere near the players that Duchene and Stone are.

and like I explained to you yesterday, the Duchene trade is likely to be a sign and trade....which increases his value significantly.
- sensarmy_11

Not better than Dobson.