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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think it was a joke attempt about how much Sullivan scratched him...
- MattStrat


I figured it was a joke of some sort, I just didn't get the punch line.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:12 AM ET
What you need to do if your horny is get off
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
Horny is one of those guys you get frustrated with from time to time but as soon as hes out of the lineup, you realize how much he brings to the team.

I wouldn't trade Horny unless there is a big fish coming back. (Seems unlikely as most sellers will want futures)
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Feb 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
As far as I am concerned as long as Hornqvist is willing to continue standing in front of opposing goalies, annoying them and their defenses as well as getting in the paths of shots for deflections he is earning his paycheck. There isn't really anyone else on the team who does this consistently. ZAR does it but nowhere near to the level of Hornqvist. I don't want Guentzel to do it - he is too young and too skilled for that kind of role.

However, as soon as Hornqvist stops doing this then yes, his contract will hurt the team.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Horny is one of those guys you get frustrated with from time to time but as soon as hes out of the lineup, you realize how much he brings to the team.

I wouldn't trade Horny unless there is a big fish coming back. (Seems unlikely as most sellers will want futures)

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Sooooo.... Hornqvist for Panarin straight up?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
Sooooo.... Hornqvist for Panarin straight up?
- Victoro311


Only if Columbus includes Seth Jones to even it up.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
Only if Columbus includes Seth Jones to even it up.
- jmatchett383

Ugh. I guess that's fair... They might have to eat JMFJ's contract if they want us to take back Jones, though.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Ugh. I guess that's fair... They might have to eat JMFJ's contract if they want us to take back Jones, though.
- Victoro311


You guys are very unrealistic with this trade...It would leave then with a big hole to fill. They need to throw in a 1st and we will add JJ to the trade.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
You guys are very unrealistic with this trade...It would leave then with a big hole to fill. They need to throw in a 1st and we will add JJ to the trade.
- 123Kid

Yes yes I wasn't considering sides. Jones can't come in and just replace Johnson's left shot. We'll need some picks to make this worth while for the Pens.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think if Hornqvist would play on a line dedicated to playing against the other teams top line he could be effective because he does hound dog guys. He would need guys who can chase his dump to be effective. But I still agree he needs to be top six. Edit:I’m not speaking of his turn around and face wash everyone antics.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Looking beyond this season, Penguins have a lot of cap problems and will need to offload guys like Pearson, Hornqvist, Johnson, etc. They also need to find an identity again. They try to play like a speed team but with virtually 0 speed, especially beyond the first line.

I really like Blueger. Guy is a smart player. I think he's a high end 4th line guy, low end 3rd line guy right now but I think he will grow nicely into a top 9 role. I have also liked McCann.

I would keep Wilson out of the lineup in favor of Pearson or Simon. Guy is okay and plays well, but he cannot put the puck in the net.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
IF we had to trade Hörnqvist it better be to the West Coast. I'd send him to a Dallas Stars or something. He needs to be a Top 6 forward in order to be effective for sure.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
I feel like the hornqvist talk comes up every year at this time. He is made for the playoffs and power play. He will be a force in these playoffs (assuming they actually make it)
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
Hornqvist isn't being used correctly.....and yes, it's the same situation that has plagued Sullivan this season. Just another example of the disconnect with JR and Sully. Why sign him to that contract to be a third liner?

That being said, Hornie didn't look right for 6 or more of those games after he returned from the puck off his chin. Plus, he was logging a good chunk of time with Brassard who was mailing it in most nights.
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Feb 18 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yeah, I agree. I think maybe if you don't want to break the top line that has been very good for us you could try horn on a line with Bjugstad to see if they can develop some chemistry. In theory Pearsson/Simon - Bjugstad - Hornqvist should be a great third line.

If it doesnt work I think they should try to put him back with Sid or look to trade him.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 18 @ 1:14 PM ET
IF we had to trade Hörnqvist it better be to the West Coast. I'd send him to a Dallas Stars or something. He needs to be a Top 6 forward in order to be effective for sure.
- Barnaby36

Yeah if you ignore the things I have posted already.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 1:14 PM ET
Hornqvist + Crosby for Amac + Simmonds.

We'll throw in a 5th if need be.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yeah, I agree. I think maybe if you don't want to break the top line that has been very good for us you could try horn on a line with Bjugstad to see if they can develop some chemistry. In theory Pearsson/Simon - Bjugstad - Hornqvist should be a great third line.

If it doesnt work I think they should try to put him back with Sid or look to trade him.

- Conse

Like that idea a lot. Pearson on that 3rd line would provide a scorer (kind of) and be tough to play against. Also rust and hornqvist can be easily switched to generate any spark if needed
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
Yeah, I agree. I think maybe if you don't want to break the top line that has been very good for us you could try horn on a line with Bjugstad to see if they can develop some chemistry. In theory Pearsson/Simon - Bjugstad - Hornqvist should be a great third line.

If it doesnt work I think they should try to put him back with Sid or look to trade him.

- Conse



I would freaking hope that ~13 mil would make a good 3rd line.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
I would freaking hope that ~13 mil would make a good 3rd line.
- Guile

Won back to back cups with 13mil on the third line
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
I would freaking hope that ~13 mil would make a good 3rd line.
- Guile

People need to stop thinking about the 3rd line as bottom 6 depth pieces in today’s NHl. There needs to be legitimate high end players on your third line to succeed today.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
I am happy to see quite a few people have seen what Hornqvist brings to this team. Geuntzel is a solid player, belongs on the top line with Sid and can replace Hornqvist on the PP when the need arises.

Hornqvist creates so much attention and chaos in the area in front of the net that no one else can do. His ability to do so basically creates a 4 on 3 situation and that helps the talent level of the Pens to shine.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
we could go back and forth all day whether we should or shouldnt trade Horny...

but if we did trade him, can anyone come up with a reasonable trade? I'd assume we'd be looking for a LW and probably younger...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
we could go back and forth all day whether we should or shouldnt trade Horny...

but if we did trade him, can anyone come up with a reasonable trade? I'd assume we'd be looking for a LW and probably younger...

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Could trade him to Calgary for James Neal.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Could trade him to Calgary for James Neal.
- Feds91Stammer

Might not even trade JJ straight up for Neal at this point....didn’t see that crash coming so fast
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